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1 Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Mon Feb 16 2015, 20:39

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Anybody ever done one?

Driving through rural (and almost completely unlit) Derbyshire at five thirty this morning, I got zapped by a speed camera which was cunningly positioned just past a blind bend on a stretch of country road where the speed limit suddenly drops from 50 mph to 30 mph for about 200 yards because there's a pub and a phone box.

Sneaky bastards!

Fortunately, because of the bend I was only actually doing about 40, so I don't think I'm in too much bother.

However, in 27 years of driving, I've never had any points before and this has naffed me off royally.

So much so that I was considering doing one of these courses to avoid the penalty.

But then I read that you still have to pay for the course and the fee is often more than the fine.

So I'll probably just pay the fine and take the 3 points.

But it got me wondering if anybody on here had done one of the courses?

2 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Mon Feb 16 2015, 20:45

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Nat Lofthouse
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I respect human life so never speed.

3 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Mon Feb 16 2015, 20:46

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John McGinlay
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I've done the course. Probably cost about £10 extra to do the course but meant no points on license which I thought would work out cheaper on saved insurance premiums. You can only do the course if they offer it to you though.

4 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Mon Feb 16 2015, 21:15

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scottjames30 wrote:I respect human life so never speed.

Can you even do over 30 in one of these?

5 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Mon Feb 16 2015, 21:46

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Nat Lofthouse
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I'm sticking to my bike. More reliable.

6 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Mon Feb 16 2015, 23:31

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Frank Worthington
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Seriously ... Do the course. I've done it. My insurance with 3 points, on a Audi a4 S line would have been 1200 dearer...

7 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Mon Feb 16 2015, 23:40

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Tony Kelly
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Yes do the course and save the 3 points. Slightly dearer but worth it for what it saves on your insurace. I've done it and the course is actually quite interesting. The only other downside is you may need to take a days holiday from work to do it.

8 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Tue Feb 17 2015, 08:12

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Ivan Campo
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You can do it on Saturday morning at some places. It's plus 10% of the speed limit zone + 9mph to qualify so 42 in a 30.

9 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Tue Feb 17 2015, 10:15

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Youri Djorkaeff
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I did one a couple of yrs ago, 80mph all the way home.

10 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Tue Feb 17 2015, 10:19

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I've done 3 - twice at the same centre. Honestly don't know why they keep offering it to me, but I've managed to retain my licence.

Best one was in Leyland years ago when they first became an option. It was a full day but the afternoon was spent with an advanced driver who basically showed me how to drive fast safely, using the whole road in country lanes around Chorley/Wheelton area. Brilliant. The other two were just classroom stuff that was more than a bit boring - but point-free.

11 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 13:51

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Letter's arrived and they've offered me the course.

£79.50, no points on the licence and you can do it at the Reebok, so I'm going for that option.

The website says you get to go out with an advanced driving instructor and learn how to drive properly, so on the back of Lusty's comment above, it sounds like fun.

12 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 14:01

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Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
How much is the fine for speeding? I'm a law abiding citizen (not the Gerard Butler type) so wouldn't know.

13 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 14:03

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Have a feeling I might have got busted yesterday so am awaiting the letter and hoping they haven't worked out how many courses I've done already...

14 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 14:05

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Ever thought about slowing down a bit Wander? Very Happy

15 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 15:13

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Bwfc1958 wrote:How much is the fine for speeding? I'm a law abiding citizen (not the Gerard Butler type) so wouldn't know.

According to the letter, up to £1000 and 6 pts.

Which seems excessive for doing 36mph on a country lane at half five in the morning if I'm honest, but hey ho, you can't argue with The Man.

I'm just going to pay the fee and learn how to drive like Juha Kankkunen.

16 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 17:28

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Nat Lofthouse
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karlypants wrote:Ever thought about slowing down a bit Wander? Very Happy

Life's too short....

17 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 20:02

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El Hadji Diouf
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I would just take the points and the fine, I mean do you really want to sit in a room full of criminals?

18 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 20:05

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Nat Lofthouse
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Michael Bolton wrote:I would just take the points and the fine, I mean do you really want to sit in a room full of criminals?
  Thats my take on it too, fucking chavs and boy racers talking about how hard they are and how fast their car can go.

19 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 20:20

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Nat Lofthouse
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Bollocks. It's a no-brainer not to take the points just to make sure your insurance premiums don't rocket.

20 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 20:22

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Reebok Trotter wrote:Bollocks. It's a no-brainer not to take the points just to make sure your insurance premiums don't rocket.

...and get a free Rally Driving lesson.

That's what swung it.  Very Happy

21 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 20:39

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Breadman wrote:

According to the letter, up to £1000 and 6 pts.

Which seems excessive for doing 36mph on a country lane at half five in the morning if I'm honest, but hey ho, you can't argue with The Man.

I'm just going to pay the fee and learn how to drive like Juha Kankkunen.

At one time Chief Constables had discretion to have the cameras calibrated at whatever speed they chose. In Greater Manchester in the late seventies the Chief Constable was the Bible bashing owd Wiganer Jim Anderton. He authorised speed cameras to be calibrated at 42mph in 30 zones, 52mph in 40 zones and 62 in 50 zones. His logic was simple. You could always try and argue the toss in court that your speedo was faulty if you were a few miles over but no court would accept such an excuse if you were 12 miles over. His philosophy was that he wanted bobbies on the beat not wasting time in court arguing spurious speeding prosecutions and the high calibration setting would vastly reduce any ' not guilty ' pleas.
This policy was continued under Sir David Wilmott but then the Government changed the goalposts and speeding was de-criminalised. All speeding fines were then paid into central funds and some Chief Constables deliberately took advantage of this cash cow to hammer the motorist.
The worst offenders were North Wales Police whose Chief Constable was a practising Druid called Richard ' Brainstorm ' Brunstrom. All the speeding cameras in North Wales were calibrated at 3 miles over the limit which meant that the cameras were working overtime and generated significant income in the shape of speeding fines.
Lancashire Constabulary were another shower of bastards. Their cameras were calibrated at 4 miles over and they also made a killing.

22 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 21:34

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Ivan Campo
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I've done the online speed awareness 'test'.

Only just passed it as well.  Very Happy

23 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Fri Feb 27 2015, 21:46

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Nat Lofthouse
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Copper Dragon wrote:I've done the online speed awareness 'test'.

Only just passed it as well.  Very Happy

It's not easy!

24 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Sun Mar 01 2015, 10:10

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El Hadji Diouf
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I did the course a couple of years a go and thought that it was a total waste of an afternoon. Two Scousers ran the course at Leyland and thought that they were a comic double act. I learned absolutely nothing from it- no bollocking, no pictures of accidents, and certainly no trip out with an advanced motorist. Spent about two hours identifying road signs.
It cost me £60 but saved the points.
However- when I renewed my insurance they asked me if I'd ever done the course as they considered it as a 'conviction' for insurance purposes. In other words it might NOT save the hike in your insurance premium. But, as for the course itself it was totally and utterly a waste of time

25 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Thu Mar 19 2015, 11:15

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Nat Lofthouse
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This may be of interest to any Nutters who have a tendency to be clog happy.


Following the Freedom of Information Act you can now get access to ALL speed camera offences registered in the last 12 months.

Every time your car goes past a speed camera, even 1mph over the set limit, it is registered and put on a database. You only get a ticket if you are way over the limit or, (this is the bit I didn't know) if you receive over 10 near misses. You will then be classed as a serial offender and get a ticket

the next time you go just over the limit.

This is why you hear of people being done for 34mph in a 30mph limit area, whilst others doing 35mph do not.


You can check what has been registered against your vehicle at the following web address:


www.i-database.co.uk

26 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Thu Mar 19 2015, 14:04

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You twat.

27 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Thu Mar 19 2015, 14:23

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Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
Laughing What johnny said. It came up and I thought 'where the fuck is gossmore fodden?'

28 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Thu Mar 19 2015, 14:45

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I fell for it proper because the speed was about right and obviously I've just been done, so it looked kosher.

RT is a knob. Very Happy

29 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Thu Mar 19 2015, 14:52

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I was on the a19 not so long ago but it said i was only doing 82 and that's when i twigged, i was at least doing 90

30 Re: Speed Awareness Con....sorry Course. on Thu Mar 19 2015, 16:53

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