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1 Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 11:25

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Apologies for duplicating something that I've already posted elsewhere on here but I think this is so important, it deserves its own thread.

Someone on the BN site has suggested that the bloke sitting next to Holdsworth at the match yesterday is convicted fraudster Jonathan Disley and it certainly looks like him.



A man with previous convictions for targeting failing businesses and defrauding them.

Surely to God, ED and Birch wouldn't let this clown anywhere near any takeover but there he is, sitting next to Holdsworth at the match.

All joking apart, this is potentially very serious and I just hope they don't throw us under the bus by flogging the club to these clowns.

2 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 11:29

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It gets better.

3 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 11:32

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just googled him, it does look very much like him. Surely he wouldn't be allowed to be involved?

4 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 11:42

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Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
What about the fit and proper person test thingy that new owners have to pass these days, or can you bypass that by getting someone else to be the face of the takeover?

5 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 11:46

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@Bwfc1958 wrote:What about the fit and proper person test thingy that new owners have to pass these days, or can you bypass that by getting someone else to be the face of the takeover?

Unlike in The Prem, none of that happens until after a deal's done, apparently.

Ridiculous if it's true.

6 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 11:46

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74 said he was jailed for four and a half years in 2013

7 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 11:48

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Breadman wrote:Apologies for duplicating something that I've already posted elsewhere on here but I think this is so important, it deserves its own thread.

Someone on the BN site has suggested that the bloke sitting next to Holdsworth at the match yesterday is convicted fraudster Jonathan Disley and it certainly looks like him.

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A man with previous convictions for targeting failing businesses and defrauding them.

Surely to God, ED and Birch wouldn't let this clown anywhere near any takeover but there he is, sitting next to Holdsworth at the match.

All joking apart, this is potentially very serious and I just hope they don't throw us under the bus by flogging the club to these clowns.

If it is him. Which I doubt. Then his convictions would prevent him from running a business ever again

8 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 11:49

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White collar crime, sentenced to four, out in two?

9 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 11:50

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Boggers, I'm not saying he is going to be involved in "officially" running the business, but there's nothing stopping him being one of the mystery financial backers behind SSI, is there?

10 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 11:56

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He's apparently banned from being a company director for 8 years (from when he was sentenced) but as bread says, doesn't stop him being a money man. I've had a good look round the net and I'm 99% sure that's him. One of the blokes he was sentenced with was from Bolton so he obviously has connections here. Doesn't look good tbh.

11 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 11:56

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He wouldn't be able to run it officially, but that just means his name won't be down on paper. Officially he'll use his wife's or his sons name. Unofficially he could do whatever he wanted. If our existing crooks sell to these new crooks we should start a worldwide man hunt to drag ED and Gartside back to Bolton dead or alive!

12 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 11:58

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He used to pretend to be friends with Dean Gaffney

13 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:04

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Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
And Barbara Windsor.

"GET OUTTA MY CLUB!!"
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14 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:07

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The fit and proper test looks at an individual, and as such, I believe this gentleman would not be allowed to be an owner, and he is barred from being a director of any company for the next few years. There is no test in the world that can bar him from being the power behind the front man.

15 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:15

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someone needs to alert that super journo Iles to look into this

16 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:19

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Has he got any money?

17 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:20

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Let's say it is him, do you seriously think that the authorities won't have him on some sort of list and keep an eye out to ensure he isn't doing anything illegal?

18 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:22

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What a surprise. Deanos money man is a criminal.

19 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:23

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From May 2013

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A conman dubbed the "King of Marbella" and his three accomplices have been jailed over a £675,000 bank fraud.

The scam allowed leader John Disley, 46, of Hertfordshire, to lead a lavish lifestyle in Spain, the court heard.

The group bought companies in trouble and used them to withdraw large sums of cash from the Royal Bank of Scotland just before cheques bounced.

From their office near Preston they electronically moved the cash to other accounts, the city's crown court heard.

Disley, whose office was in Little Hoole, claimed he was restructuring the businesses but instead stripped them of assets and used them to set up bank accounts, obtaining cash through fraudulent cheques, the court heard.

When he was arrested he was convinced the scam would not be traced back to him and told detectives he was "more worried about it snowing".

Disley, of Old House Lane, Kings Langley, earned his Marbella nickname from expats in Spain who saw him as a multi-millionaire living a champagne lifestyle, when in reality he was bankrupt.

His lavish lifestyle included splashing out £30,000 for a palm tree at his villa.

He was found guilty last month of conspiracy to defraud £675,937 from the Royal Bank of Scotland, as well as £214,000 from a financial services company, between May and December 2010.

Sentencing him to four-and-a-half years in prison at Preston Crown Court, Judge Heather Lloyd said: "Your arrogance was apparent when arrested.

"You did not think for one moment that the prosecution would succeed.

"You gave other people scripts to follow but the evidence against you was overwhelming and the jury saw right through you."

Jonathan Stowell, 41, of Bradshawgate, Bolton, and Stuart Hegarty, 44, of Helston Drive, Nottingham, were convicted of the same charge after the seven-week trial.

Disley's "right-hand woman" and personal assistant, Victoria Quinn, 40, from Accrington, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud in October.

Stowell was sentenced to 15 months, Hegarty was jailed for 12 months and Quinn to two years.

Disley was also disqualified from being a company director for eight years, Stowell for three years and Quinn for five years.

It's not right that criminals like Disley should live beyond their means
Det Con Keith Allen, Lancashire Police

Judge Lloyd said Disley could be "intimidating when crossed" and described Quinn as a "thoroughly dishonest woman" with a string of convictions for fraud and theft.

Stowell would help Disley find the businesses to buy and exploit, while Hegarty knowingly paid in cheques from an account which had been closed for some time, the court heard.

Royal Bank of Scotland bank manager Russell Alker, 39, of Preston, Lancashire, who worked at a branch in Wigan, was alleged to be an "inside man", but was cleared by the jury of any involvement in the fraud.

Thomas Aldred, 24, of Preston, the ex-boyfriend of Disley's daughter, Laura, was also cleared.

The convictions followed a two-year investigation by the Lancashire Constabulary Financial Investigation Department, during which inquiries were carried out across the country.

Det Con Keith Allen said: "Disley believed he was above the law.

"He portrayed himself as a legitimate multi-millionaire businessman when in fact he was a bankrupt who made his living by asset-stripping companies which were in financial difficulty.

"It's not right that criminals like Disley should live beyond their means, essentially at the cost of law-abiding members of the community."

A proceeds of crime hearing is scheduled for next March.

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Please remember though that Mr Disley has been caught and punished for his crimes and so if it is him he is free to watch the game with presumably his friends and get involved in any venture within the terms of any legal constraints that may still be imposed upon him.

So no libellous comments about him or anyone else please!

20 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:24

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@Boggersbelief wrote:Let's say it is him, do you seriously think that the authorities won't have him on some sort of list and keep an eye out to ensure he isn't doing anything illegal?

Yeah, you're right - we can all relax.

Because convicted fraudsters would never do anything dodgy to circumvent the authorities's watchful eye, would they?

It's not in their nature......

ALLEGEDLY.

21 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:36

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I'm quite surprised that the newspapers haven't picked up on this.

22 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:40

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He might just be advising Deano on how to make it look like you have millions when in reality you haven't got a pot to piss in.

23 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:40

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He's from Bolton.

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24 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:43

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Iles saying this disley character isn't involved

25 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:52

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Iles saying this disley character isn't involved


In the spirit of Christmas time...

Iles - Oh no he isn't.

What everyone else will be thinking - ...

Very Happy

26 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 12:54

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Whichever group becomes the new owners, there will concern over who is behind the bid and what their intentions are. I risked Nat's ire by using the analogy that we are "better off being raped than murdered" but as tasteless as the analogy is, I think it's  a fair description of our current situation.

The fact that anyone has come in for us at least means that we haven't been killed off as a club. Whether the alternative is a slow lingering death at the hands of the asset-strippers or not, time will tell. 

And if the guy watching the game (Bruce Willis has let himself go hasn't he?) is the fraudster, and if he's involved in the bid,  I would be amazed if Trevor Birch and Eddie hadn't checked him out.

27 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 13:00

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Regardless of what ED says, he wants the club in the right hands is just a load of bollocks.

As far as he is concerned, he wants to wash his hands of the club and couldn't give a shit who buys it as long as they have enough funds.

28 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 13:15

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It's not rocket science and it is the point I've been banging on from the start - the club is not making any money - in fact it is losing over £700,000 per month - so who would want to buy it - invest the needed £15 to £20 million to attempt to turn it around (The Independent) not make a penny profit during that time and still have no guarantee at all that you will be successful in restructuring the club and even that you would get your investment back!!!

It's obvious Davies would have planed an exit strategy and timing of Holdsworth setting up his business is very convenient to my way of thinking to say the least.

All just my opinion of course.



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29 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 13:16

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Holdsworth doesn't who disley is according to Illes. They just happened to be sharing the same box

30 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Sun Dec 06 2015, 13:19

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Regardless of what ED says, he wants the club in the right hands is just a load of bollocks.

As far as he is concerned, he wants to wash his hands of the club and couldn't give a shit who buys it as long as they have enough funds.


I really have no idea what ED is thinking, and I certainly haven't heard anything that would suggest he isn't looking for a responsible replacement but if I'd been underwriting a club for years and then agreed to take a financial hit for them (whatever the actual loss amount is) I'd definitely be looking to find a buyer that would have the club's interests at heart. Otherwise my years of support would go to waste.

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