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61 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 11:25

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Boggers reckons the Far Eastern bid is still the front runner.

Deano claims he has never met Disley before the match day.

So what if that's true and Disley is in fact working for the Far Eastern consortium? Or Stelios' consortium? That would explain his presence and Deano's lack of knowledge of him.


Looking at this another way, what is Disley doing in the Director's box if he has nothing to do with any of the bids?

Disley has nothing to do with any of the 3 bidders. Stelios and his crew are out of the race

62 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 11:26

JAH

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It was a private box which makes it worse. Was its EDs box?

63 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 11:29

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Barb Dwyer wrote:Was it the directors box?

Very good question.
The answer to which may give us an insight into why he was even at the ground.

I'd assumed it was the Director's box as a recent BN article said words to the effect of "the new owners may be in the Director's box as early as the Cardiff game"

64 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 11:29

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By all accounts, it was a private box (suggestion being that it was Amir Khan's but in the absence of any proof, we'll skip over that) and DH and this Disley clown were together before, during and after the match in the hotel, shaking hands, smiling and looking generally quite smug.

I honestly can't believe (as Fin has already pointed out) that the BN aren't all over these fucking idiots.

Iles appears happy to trot out (the expected) line that there's nothing in it and DH doesn't know the guy.

In fact he got quite defensive and chippy about it on Twitter last night.

65 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 11:34

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So we don't know whose box it was and we don't know why the fraudster had been invited into that box.
We know why Deano was there, but we don't know who invited him into that particular box or introduced him to Disley. That's the person of interest IMO.

66 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 11:35

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Too much is being read into Disley

67 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 11:37

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@wanderlust wrote:So we don't know whose box it was and we don't know why the fraudster had been invited into that box.
We know why Deano was there, but we don't know who invited him into that particular box or introduced him to Disley. That's the person of interest IMO.

Correct.

And it serves to confirm that DH hasn't a fucking clue what's going on and really is just a "fat Zorro-faced idiot (TM FinlayMcDanger - all rights reserved) who is being used by someone else to try and ingratiate that particular bid with the fans.

I'm starting to think I'd prefer Administration.......

68 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 11:37

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@wanderlust wrote:So we don't know whose box it was and we don't know why the fraudster had been invited into that box.
We know why Deano was there, but we don't know who invited him into that particular box or introduced him to Disley. That's the person of interest IMO.
I'm guessing Disley was there because he is a Bolton fan. I've never been in a box at a football match so don't know how they work.

69 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 12:05

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Barb Dwyer wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:So we don't know whose box it was and we don't know why the fraudster had been invited into that box.
We know why Deano was there, but we don't know who invited him into that particular box or introduced him to Disley. That's the person of interest IMO.
I'm guessing Disley was there because he is a Bolton fan. I've never been in a box at a football match so don't know how they work.

Costs about a grand per person per season at the Macron and you get a meal (pub standard) beforehand plus the choice of watching from the table or outside. No queuing for the bar etc.

Box of Nuts anyone?

70 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 12:09

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Well I've been in a few over the years and in my experience, 90% of the people there aren't there for the football.

It's all about corporate entertainment and greasing wheels.

71 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 12:20

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Been once and I agree with Wander & Breadders although not in a box.

72 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 12:40

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If I was trying to sell a football club - remember also the urgency it apparently needs to be done so too - and the apparently leading bidders frontman (Holdsworth) was invited / wanted to attend the match - would I just let him rock up, queue for a ticket and find his own seat?

Seems to me the club would either facilitate a box for him - would they just stick him in with a room full of strangers? - or he has been invited by someone else.

The most logical thing to me is that (if Holdsworth had never met this bloke before) someone with a box (Khan?) invited him to sit with his friends and / or 'associates'.


All seems a bit murky to me.

73 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 12:57

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Can't wait for the new board to be unveiled.

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74 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 13:28

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@Boggersbelief wrote:Too much is being read into Disley

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311538/John-Disley-King-Marbella-gangster-spent-fraud-money-2m-farmhouse-fast-cars-yacht-facing-jail.html

I'm not interested in the article itself too much - we've already learnt quite a lot about this bloke over the last 24 hrs, no it's one of the comments that stood out for me.

Here's what "whodareswins" posted - and bear in mind that it was two years ago:

ha ha ha i knew this guy, he was doing this over 10 years ago, he ran nightclubs in Bolton, Burnley and Sale. He always used to get other people to become directors of company's and then strip them of every penny and set up accounts with traders and the rip everyone off and leave everyone else to pick up the pieces. i am surprised that banks still did any business with him as he was banned from running any company. 

Simple question now, Boggers:

Given that our biggest fear is that the club will be sold to someone who may have been attracted to it because it's full of juicy assets which could be sold off for a quick profit (and this seems the only way that anybody buying Bolton could come out of it in credit), are you not at least a little bit concerned that he was pictured with Holdsworth at the match on Saturday?

75 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 14:00

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I don't believe for one minute this is all just coincidence. The guy is involved somehow. We can only hope this whole thing doesn't blow up in our face and end up with no club while he disappears of to the Costa del sol with his tidy profit. Wish I had Boggers confidence but this is a big worry as far as I'm concerned.

76 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 14:09

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I don't believe for one minute this is all just coincidence. 
Exactly. Why would he be there at all? 
If he doesn't own the box himself he must have been invited by the owner.
Deano was also invited by the owner - an owner who has dodgy friends.
At best there's only one degree of separation between Deano and this slimeball.

77 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:13

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Holdsworth (according to Iles and I'm still awaiting official denial from the man himself) says he doesn't know him.

If this is true (which it isn't, but let's pretend) it adds weight to the argument that they were both there as mutual acquaintances of whoever's really behind the SSI bid, as Lusty says.

So this means that whoever is the brains behind the outfit isn't above having someone like Disley (a fucking convicted criminal) in his team and is thick enough to allow him to be photographed alongside the "respectable" face of the bid, ie Holdsworth.

Massive lack of integrity and judgement (both in terms of ethics and PR skills) and obviously not someone we want anywhere near the club, especially not as owner.

If, as I shall repeatedly contend until proven otherwise, Holdsworth does in fact know Disley, this makes him a greasy-haired, lying twat.

And he can fuck right off, money or not. (I suspect "not" being the case there.)

78 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:17

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Hate to say it,but administration is looking the best option at the moment.

79 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:20

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John. Disley. Does. Not. Have. Any. Involvement. With. SSI.

80 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:21

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Why do I keep reading SSI as ISIS?

81 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:26

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He always used to get other people to become directors of company's and then strip them of every penny and set up accounts with traders and then rip everyone off and leave everyone else to pick up the pieces. i am surprised that banks still did any business with him as he was banned from running any company.

Courtesy of The Mail.

82 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:31

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@boltonbonce wrote:He always used to get other people to become directors of company's and then strip them of every penny and set up accounts with traders and then rip everyone off and leave everyone else to pick up the pieces. i am surprised that banks still did any business with him as he was banned from running any company.

Courtesy of The Mail.

This is the point Boggers doesn't seem to get.

(And that's not a dig, honestly.)

83 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:38

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Breadman wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:He always used to get other people to become directors of company's and then strip them of every penny and set up accounts with traders and then rip everyone off and leave everyone else to pick up the pieces. i am surprised that banks still did any business with him as he was banned from running any company.

Courtesy of The Mail.

This is the point Boggers doesn't seem to get.

(And that's not a dig, honestly.)

It would be a relevant point if he was in cahoots with Holdsworth. But the thing you don't seem to get is that he isn't

84 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:39

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@Boggersbelief wrote:
Breadman wrote:
@boltonbonce wrote:He always used to get other people to become directors of company's and then strip them of every penny and set up accounts with traders and then rip everyone off and leave everyone else to pick up the pieces. i am surprised that banks still did any business with him as he was banned from running any company.

Courtesy of The Mail.

This is the point Boggers doesn't seem to get.

(And that's not a dig, honestly.)

It would be a relevant point if he was in cahoots with Holdsworth. But the thing you don't seem to get is that he isn't
How do you know?

85 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:42

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Barb Dwyer wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
Breadman wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:He always used to get other people to become directors of company's and then strip them of every penny and set up accounts with traders and then rip everyone off and leave everyone else to pick up the pieces. i am surprised that banks still did any business with him as he was banned from running any company.

Courtesy of The Mail.

This is the point Boggers doesn't seem to get.

(And that's not a dig, honestly.)

It would be a relevant point if he was in cahoots with Holdsworth. But the thing you don't seem to get is that he isn't
How do you know?

I'm in the know. Thought that was obvious by now

86 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:44

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It's clutching at straws if you believe a word Marc iles is saying.

87 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:45

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fair enough if he's not but does no one at the club think about these things in advance? Everyone knew there was going to be a prospective owner sat in one of the boxes so why sit him next to someone like that?

88 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:47

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:fair enough if he's not but does no one at the club think about these things in advance? Everyone knew there was going to be a prospective owner sat in one of the boxes so why sit him next to someone like that?

It's a private box. The club have no say

89 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:51

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Lenny ' the gov'nor' Mclean has booked in for the next home game.

90 Re: Jonathon Disley - The King of Marbella on Mon Dec 07 2015, 15:52

Norpig

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then surely if Holdsworth is going to take over they should put him the directors box and not in some other random box. The club really are clueless, do they want to sell the club or not?

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