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31 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:51 am

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Andy Walker
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Natasha Whittam wrote:
finlaymcdanger wrote:Its getting harder and harder to contribute. Whenever I grab some time to come on here its more often than not spent trawling through the childish bickering.

Genuine question Finlay, when did you last start a thread?

What you're basically saying above is you want everyone else to entertain you, without you putting in any effort.

When Scott and Boggers were banned plenty of people said "good riddance, the site will be better for it". But how many of those people stepped up and tried to start interesting or funny threads? None of them is the answer. So the site was very quiet.

If you're not prepared to put the effort in, quit moaning.


Fuck you. You fat fucking cunt.

32 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:53 am

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finlaymcdanger wrote:Fuck you. You fat fucking cunt.

I think you made my point very well. Cheers.

33 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:53 am

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Bread2.0 wrote:It's squarely down to the fact that you've got certain individuals on here who are largely in it just to stir up pointless shit and cause rows because they enjoy it.

I know everybody thinks I've got an agenda about Scott, Boggersbelief and (by extension) Angry Dad but hear me out.

I come on here to have a laugh. I try and contribute funny stuff which, hopefully, puts a smile on people's faces.

But you can't do that if every time you post something, one of the "characters" jumps all over it and turns the thread into a petty slanging match because they don't like you.

And that's what's been happening of late.

And the modding doesn't help. It's not that it's inconsistent, it's the opposite in fact.

Scott and Boggersbelief got banned for being a pair of childish pricks who were constantly ruining threads and putting genuine posters off contributing.

But we all knew that their bans were implemented by one of the "under mods" and Sluffy would overturn them at the first available opportunity.

This despite the overwhelming majority of the site's regular contributors applauding the bans and saying that it was about time.

And sure enough, as soon as Whittam opened the door by (quite candidly) saying that "she" was missing the fact that Boggersbelief regularly started rows, up popped Sluffy with his usual confused explanation of his version of being "fair and consistent" and overturned the bans.

Because, and I don't care how much he bangs on to the contrary, Sluffy has final say on what happens here and he's obviously all about the numbers. 

It's clear he'd rather have 150 pointless, one-line comments a day from the likes of the Scott and Boggersbelief characters than 50 genuine comments from real people.

And it grates.

And you can see why people no longer trust the people running the site and are put off posting.

You're complaining because the modding is CONSISTENT!!!

For fuck sake we are grown men and one or two off here are behaving like little babies.

The three of you (Scott, the Boggers account and yourself) are all as bad as each other with your own personal vendetta - one side trolling and the other trying to get them banned for good - and that is all you care about - so much so that you are quite content to piss all over the forum and the rest of us, just to carry out your agendas.

As far as I'm concerned I wouldn't miss you ALL going - and I'm on record of saying that in the back office part of the site - so how does that fit in with you never endingly banging on about I do what I do just to keep the post count on here high?

It's not like I/we actually get anything out of having a high forum post count.  We aren't a click site like the LoV, BA or JA606 who only solely run their sites so that their owners earn money from them via advertisements.

At the end of the day we are an internet forum based on a shared interest.

We exist in WORDS only.

When I was little my father taught me the meaning behind the saying 'Sticks and stones may break my bones but WORDS will never hurt me.

Seems some off here never had that lesson.



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34 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:54 am

finlaymcdanger

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Natasha Whittam wrote:
finlaymcdanger wrote:Fuck you. You fat fucking cunt.

I think you made my point very well. Cheers.

Congratulations.

35 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:58 am

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Norpig wrote:Boggers i'm sure in real life you are a nice person but on here you come across as a wind up merchant.

This is a forum and people are meant to have discussions and people will have different points of view and things will get heated but you seem to love to stoke it up just for the sake of it.

Can you not see that for people reading from the outside thinking about signing up will think twice because of all the petty arguments and slanging matches

I haven't got into any arguments since I returned. My name keeps cropping up though.

36 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:59 am

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if you can't see it Boggers then i'll leave it there, no point banging on about it till one of us blows a gasket

37 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:00 pm

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Sluffy wrote:
Bread2.0 wrote:It's squarely down to the fact that you've got certain individuals on here who are largely in it just to stir up pointless shit and cause rows because they enjoy it.

I know everybody thinks I've got an agenda about Scott, Boggersbelief and (by extension) Angry Dad but hear me out.

I come on here to have a laugh. I try and contribute funny stuff which, hopefully, puts a smile on people's faces.

But you can't do that if every time you post something, one of the "characters" jumps all over it and turns the thread into a petty slanging match because they don't like you.

And that's what's been happening of late.

And the modding doesn't help. It's not that it's inconsistent, it's the opposite in fact.

Scott and Boggersbelief got banned for being a pair of childish pricks who were constantly ruining threads and putting genuine posters off contributing.

But we all knew that their bans were implemented by one of the "under mods" and Sluffy would overturn them at the first available opportunity.

This despite the overwhelming majority of the site's regular contributors applauding the bans and saying that it was about time.

And sure enough, as soon as Whittam opened the door by (quite candidly) saying that "she" was missing the fact that Boggersbelief regularly started rows, up popped Sluffy with his usual confused explanation of his version of being "fair and consistent" and overturned the bans.

Because, and I don't care how much he bangs on to the contrary, Sluffy has final say on what happens here and he's obviously all about the numbers. 

It's clear he'd rather have 150 pointless, one-line comments a day from the likes of the Scott and Boggersbelief characters than 50 genuine comments from real people.

And it grates.

And you can see why people no longer trust the people running the site and are put off posting.

You're complaining because the modding is CONSISTENT!!!

For fuck sake we are grown men and one or two off here are behaving like little babies.

The three of you (Scott, the Boggers account and yourself) are all as bad as each other with your own personal vendetta - one side trolling and the other trying to get them banned for good - and that is all you care about - so much so that you are quite content to piss all over the forum and the rest of us, just to carry out your agendas.

As far as I'm concerned I wouldn't miss you ALL going - and I'm on record of saying that in the back office part of the site - so how does that fit in with you never endingly banging on about I do what I do just to keep the post count on here high?

It's not like I/we actually get anything out of having a high forum post count.  We aren't a click site like the LoV, BA or JA606 who only solely run their sites so that their owners earn money from them via advertisements.

At the end of the day we are an internet forum based on a shared interest.

We exist in WORDS only.

When I was little my father taught me the meaning behind the saying 'Sticks and stones may break my bones but WORDS will never hurt me.

Seems some off here never had that lesson.

Can I just point out that this thread was made by Johnny about something not involving me, breadman chose to involve me.

38 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:20 pm

bryan458

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Tony Kelly
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Another glorious day on Nuts !!! Hehe

39 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:34 pm

Sluffy

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Boggersbelief wrote:Can I just point out that this thread was made by Johnny about something not involving me, breadman chose to involve me.

What am I, some kind of a moron perhaps?

I know full well who you are and what kind of a game you've been playing.

There's no innocent side in all of this though - you've all been as bad as each other - one side not know when to stop trolling and the other doing all they can to get people banned.

How absolutely pathetic of you all.

This thread is just a continuation of all that shit.

It's about time you all just grew up and stopped playing your spiteful little games.



40 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:37 pm

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Sluffy wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:Can I just point out that this thread was made by Johnny about something not involving me, breadman chose to involve me.

What am I, some kind of a moron perhaps?





Well, you do struggle with 'has' and 'as'

41 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:39 pm

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Nat Lofthouse
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Sluffy wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:Can I just point out that this thread was made by Johnny about something not involving me, breadman chose to involve

This thread is just a continuation of all that shit.






Again, this thread had nothing to do with me.

42 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:39 pm

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These patronising lectures about "vendettas" and "growing up" and "getting on with it because life's too short" would be easier to swallow if you hadn't spent weeks and weeks ranting about the ST (and by extension Mike Smith) a few months back.

That's partly what winds people up - Obvious double standards.

43 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:48 pm

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It's come to something when we're arguing about arguing. Over the years we've discussed just about everything so I guess we have become over-concerned about the characters at the expense of the discussion. What happened to the free exchange of ideas and outward-looking threads like Nat's BEL? We have replaced them with introspective ramblings and "personal" digs at the people we imagine sit behind the characters portrayed on here. 

As a product, the site is suffering and it's become less attractive to browsers and a pain in the ass for regulars who have to trawl through loads of personal exchanges in the hope that someone will actually write about the topic in hand. If we really want to grow the membership, something has to be done, but what? 

If the mods are unable or unwilling to stamp out personal exchanges we could have a sticky "personal exchanges" thread where characters can "take it outside" to get it off their chest and the rest of us can get on with discussing the topic - whilst still having the option to check out the exchange of insults if we can be bothered. Seems a good idea as some characters seem to revel in hijacking threads with "personal" insults and I occasionally wonder if it's people from other sites deliberately sabotaging NUTS to drive members and potential members away.

I also question the validity of allowing multiple accounts from the same IP address. Sure it's good inasmuch that people like Nat can generate interest by having different characters argue different perspectives but it falls down when multiple characters exist to argue the same point and give the impression that multiple people agree with a particular perspective.

Nuts is becoming petty and cliquey and inaction won't turn the ship around, so some hard decisions are needed if things are going to improve in the future. New blood will be needed to freshen up the site and the current situation won't help to achieve that. Not everybody is as thick-skinned as me so whilst I agree that people should recognise that these are just words from an unknown internet character, not everyone does. That fact should be recognised and the default mod position should be to treat words as if they were written by a real person to another real person.

44 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:50 pm

Natasha Whittam

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wanderlust wrote:Sure it's good inasmuch that people like Nat can generate interest by having different characters argue different perspectives

I don't have multiple accounts so you can take that back.

45 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:01 pm

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As a half-newbie looking in, I see every single poster has at some time posted crap with the possible exception of Chairmanda. You all have also posted informative, funny, absolute bolleaux on more than a few occasions. It only becomes wearisome when someone runs with the ball and the rest chase hurling insults at each other. On my military website you get categories from swearing, even mildly, is verboten, insults not allowed and everything modded to buggery. Any infringement gets a number of points. Get 10 and you're gone for a day or two, serious lapses for good. Lower down the scale there are other categories allowing from specialised postings to absolute wankerish topics. Even on the lower echelons there are rules, no illegals, no gash shots and no revealing personal info.
We've all made note of the fact we're  adults and this really shouldn't be happening in order to attempt to prove a minor point. We all need to get a grip and show respect for others' posts, even the crap ones, but please make the posts at least show a modicum of contributory effort.  santa

46 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:03 pm

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Bread2.0 wrote:These patronising lectures about "vendettas" and "growing up" and "getting on with it because life's too short" would be easier to swallow if you hadn't spent weeks and weeks ranting about the ST (and by extension Mike Smith) a few months back.

That's partly what winds people up - Obvious double standards.

You're as spot on with this as you are with how the sites post count means so much to me.

There's only you who have been banging on about the ST for months now.

I've not mentioned them for ages.

I've even asked other folk to drop making references to the ST because it was becoming an unhealthy obsession of yours in an attempt to keep beating me over the head with.

What I have said about the ST at the time was genuine comment and not some vendetta against Smith - even though he clearly has one against me and on more than one occasion tried to wreck the Nuts site simply to get to me.

Once I start taking something that some bloke I've never met nor ever intend to do so, POSTED on the internet seriously then that's the time I will pack up going on to forums.

For now at least I can still tell the difference between the real world and the internet one.

47 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:37 pm

Sluffy

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wanderlust wrote:It's come to something when we're arguing about arguing. Over the years we've discussed just about everything so I guess we have become over-concerned about the characters at the expense of the discussion. What happened to the free exchange of ideas and outward-looking threads like Nat's BEL? We have replaced them with introspective ramblings and "personal" digs at the people we imagine sit behind the characters portrayed on here. 

As a product, the site is suffering and it's become less attractive to browsers and a pain in the ass for regulars who have to trawl through loads of personal exchanges in the hope that someone will actually write about the topic in hand. If we really want to grow the membership, something has to be done, but what? 

If the mods are unable or unwilling to stamp out personal exchanges we could have a sticky "personal exchanges" thread where characters can "take it outside" to get it off their chest and the rest of us can get on with discussing the topic - whilst still having the option to check out the exchange of insults if we can be bothered. Seems a good idea as some characters seem to revel in hijacking threads with "personal" insults and I occasionally wonder if it's people from other sites deliberately sabotaging NUTS to drive members and potential members away.

I also question the validity of allowing multiple accounts from the same IP address. Sure it's good inasmuch that people like Nat can generate interest by having different characters argue different perspectives but it falls down when multiple characters exist to argue the same point and give the impression that multiple people agree with a particular perspective.

Nuts is becoming petty and cliquey and inaction won't turn the ship around, so some hard decisions are needed if things are going to improve in the future. New blood will be needed to freshen up the site and the current situation won't help to achieve that. Not everybody is as thick-skinned as me so whilst I agree that people should recognise that these are just words from an unknown internet character, not everyone does. That fact should be recognised and the default mod position should be to treat words as if they were written by a real person to another real person.

We don't.

All KNOWN fake accounts are long gone.

As I've said many times before it's easy to register via a proxy server and be a fake account, with a unique ip - we simply have no idea if they are genuine posters or 'characters' until they slip up sometime or other.

Also as I've said before we try and run this site as if we were on the terraces / stands at a game and generally what we hear and see there, we allow on Nuts (as long as it doesn't break the law of course).

People are sometimes abusive but they mostly calm down and move on.  

People sometimes do argue but often it comes to nothing.

People sometimes don't like what is being said or the way it is said but usually they let it go.

The trouble we have is that two sides have locked horns with each other and can't seem to let it go.

If we were the stewards at the match we would probably bang theirs heads together and tell them to pack it in or throw them all out.

That is basically what we are trying to do here on Nuts.

Of course people take sides when they are at the game when such things happen but usually they don't know why things kicked off or who was the one that started it in the first place.

The big difference of course is that we aren't at the match and we deal in WORDS only.

I'm fairly certain that any other forum would have banned for good one or both sides involved in this internet vendetta between themselves, permanently by now.

Maybe I've been wrong all this time thinking that grown men can sort themselves out, draw a line under stuff and move on - when it clearly is being detrimental to the site and everybody else's enjoyment of it?

48 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:40 pm

Norpig

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Sluffy you've eluded to 'the Boggers account' being run by someone else though?

49 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:43 pm

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Norpig wrote:Sluffy you've eluded to 'the Boggers account' being run by someone else though?

There's my name again

50 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:00 pm

Sluffy

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Norpig wrote:Sluffy you've eluded to 'the Boggers account' being run by someone else though?

Maybe it is.

We can't tell for certain either way but we do have our suspicions.

51 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:01 pm

Boggersbelief

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Sluffy wrote:
Norpig wrote:Sluffy you've eluded to 'the Boggers account' being run by someone else though?

Maybe it is.

We can't tell for certain either way but we do have our suspicions.

Go on then, what are your suspicions?

52 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:06 pm

Sluffy

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Boggersbelief wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Norpig wrote:Sluffy you've eluded to 'the Boggers account' being run by someone else though?

Maybe it is.

We can't tell for certain either way but we do have our suspicions.

Go on then, what are your suspicions?

I suspect you aren't a 23 year old Bolton fan.

53 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:07 pm

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Nat Lofthouse
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Sluffy wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Norpig wrote:Sluffy you've eluded to 'the Boggers account' being run by someone else though?

Maybe it is.

We can't tell for certain either way but we do have our suspicions.

Go on then, what are your suspicions?

I suspect you aren't a 23 year old Bolton fan.


Based on?

54 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:09 pm

Sluffy

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Boggersbelief wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Norpig wrote:Sluffy you've eluded to 'the Boggers account' being run by someone else though?

Maybe it is.

We can't tell for certain either way but we do have our suspicions.

Go on then, what are your suspicions?

I suspect you aren't a 23 year old Bolton fan.


Based on?

Suspicion of course.

55 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:12 pm

Boggersbelief

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Nat Lofthouse
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Sluffy wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Norpig wrote:Sluffy you've eluded to 'the Boggers account' being run by someone else though?

Maybe it is.

We can't tell for certain either way but we do have our suspicions.

Go on then, what are your suspicions?

I suspect you aren't a 23 year old Bolton fan.


Based on?

Suspicion of course.


So nothing concrete then?

56 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:15 pm

Boggersbelief

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57 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:16 pm

MartinBWFC

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Don't get me wrong here, I liked Johnny, but he was somewhat of a drama Queen, having deleted his account on various occasions, it wouldn't surprise me if he was sat watching this thread to see the reaction it makes.

58 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:17 pm

Sluffy

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Boggersbelief wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Norpig wrote:Sluffy you've eluded to 'the Boggers account' being run by someone else though?

Maybe it is.

We can't tell for certain either way but we do have our suspicions.

Go on then, what are your suspicions?

I suspect you aren't a 23 year old Bolton fan.


Based on?

Suspicion of course.


So nothing concrete then?

If it was concrete then we would KNOW you were a fake account and then have no need to be suspicious, wouldn't we.

59 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:19 pm

Boggersbelief

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Sluffy wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Norpig wrote:Sluffy you've eluded to 'the Boggers account' being run by someone else though?

Maybe it is.

We can't tell for certain either way but we do have our suspicions.

Go on then, what are your suspicions?

I suspect you aren't a 23 year old Bolton fan.


Based on?

Suspicion of course.


So nothing concrete then?

If it was concrete then we would KNOW you were a fake account and then have no need to be suspicious, wouldn't we.


Basically what you're telling me is you are rather paranoid.

60 Re: Whoever runs the facebook account on Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:22 pm

Sluffy

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Boggersbelief wrote:Basically what you're telling me is you are rather paranoid.

No, what I'm saying is that I very much doubt you are a 23 year old Bolton fan.

But as this is the internet you are free to be whoever you want to be and quite frankly I don't lose any sleep over it either way.

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