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361 Re: NFL's back again. on Tue Sep 18 2018, 08:42

Norpig

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Nat Lofthouse
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sorry i'll wait until after the Tuesday show to comment on scores. I do find myself rooting for the Browns after they were on hard knocks and they could and should be 2-0 and not 0-1-1 if their kicker had done his job properly.

362 Re: NFL's back again. on Tue Sep 18 2018, 10:09

wanderlust

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@Norpig wrote:sorry i'll wait until after the Tuesday show to comment on scores. I do find myself rooting for the Browns after they were on hard knocks and they could and should be 2-0 and not 0-1-1 if their kicker had done his job properly.
So now you're telling me the Browns lost? Great Smile

363 Re: NFL's back again. on Tue Sep 18 2018, 10:51

Norpig

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ooops  Embarassed

364 Re: NFL's back again. on Thu Sep 20 2018, 10:57

wanderlust

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Thoroughly enjoyable round of matches - although it wasn't just the Browns that were let down by their kicker. Bad week for kickers, but otherwise some good stuff.

365 Re: NFL's back again. on Thu Sep 20 2018, 12:38

Norpig

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They are brutal in the NFL , the Vikings kicker was released after the game. Imagine if Bolton could release players after a bad game, we'd have none left  Laughing

366 Re: NFL's back again. on Thu Sep 20 2018, 16:03

boltonbonce

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My Bills are struggling. Not expecting much from them to be honest.

367 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 09:47

wanderlust

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@boltonbonce wrote:My Bills are struggling. Not expecting much from them to be honest.
Still too early to pick out the winners and losers this year with the possible exception of the Browns of course Smile
Makes it all the more interesting.

368 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 09:53

wanderlust

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I have a question about the draft.
I like the idea that the worst team gets the first pick and the best team chooses last which theoretically should help to make it more competitive - although Tom Brady wasn't selected until the 6th round in his draft year!
The question is if you are a superstar college player that lots of clubs want, do you get the same value contract regardless of which team picks you?

369 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 13:11

finlaymcdanger

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El Hadji Diouf
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@boltonbonce wrote:My Bills are struggling. Not expecting much from them to be honest.
Bail on them and get on the Bengals with me, Bonce. 2 wins and cruising. They’re notoriously shit too so they’re a good fit for a Bolton fan.

370 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 13:20

boltonbonce

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@finlaymcdanger wrote:
@boltonbonce wrote:My Bills are struggling. Not expecting much from them to be honest.
Bail on them and get on the Bengals with me, Bonce. 2 wins and cruising. They’re notoriously shit too so they’re a good fit for a Bolton fan.
I've made my choice. I'm no flipper. Go Bills. cheers

371 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 13:22

Norpig

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The Browns finally won a game last night  cheers

372 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 13:34

wanderlust

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@Norpig wrote:The Browns finally won a game last night  cheers
Thanks for that.

Any thoughts on draft pick contracts?

373 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 15:09

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@wanderlust wrote:I have a question about the draft.
I like the idea that the worst team gets the first pick and the best team chooses last which theoretically should help to make it more competitive - although Tom Brady wasn't selected until the 6th round in his draft year!
The question is if you are a superstar college player that lots of clubs want, do you get the same value contract regardless of which team picks you?
The earlier in the draft you get picked the bigger the contract and signing bonus. However some teams will trade their place in the draft picking order so they can get a specific player (eg SF49ers traded with Cleveland a few years back so the Browns could bag a running back they wanted and the 49er's got a backup QB for a much lower price than they'd have had to pay had they picked him at the time they were meant to).

374 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 16:09

Norpig

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Nat Lofthouse
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What LPP said  Very Happy

Sounds like you follow NFL LPP, which team do you follow?

Fin - the AFC north table must look good to you at the moment, i'm trying to avoid it, the Steelers have been poor so far.

375 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 16:17

wanderlust

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@luckyPeterpiper wrote:
@wanderlust wrote:I have a question about the draft.
I like the idea that the worst team gets the first pick and the best team chooses last which theoretically should help to make it more competitive - although Tom Brady wasn't selected until the 6th round in his draft year!
The question is if you are a superstar college player that lots of clubs want, do you get the same value contract regardless of which team picks you?
The earlier in the draft you get picked the bigger the contract and signing bonus. However some teams will trade their place in the draft picking order so they can get a specific player (eg SF49ers traded with Cleveland a few years back so the Browns could bag a running back they wanted and the 49er's got a backup QB for a much lower price than they'd have had to pay had they picked him at the time they were meant to).
What I'm getting at is do all the clubs pay the same rate for a particular draft choice e.g. if you have the first pick do you have to pay the same as another club would if they got the first pick? 

However I've now found out the answer here.
Complicated.

376 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 19:30

finlaymcdanger

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El Hadji Diouf
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Not sure if you have HBO Bonce but they did a great Hard Knocks on the Browns this year. Brilliant show.

377 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 19:38

luckyPeterpiper

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@Norpig wrote:What LPP said  Very Happy

Sounds like you follow NFL LPP, which team do you follow?

Fin - the AFC north table must look good to you at the moment, i'm trying to avoid it, the Steelers have been poor so far.
I was an avid 49ers fan in my youth. Joe Montana and Jerry Rice were awesome and that whole team was virtually unbeatable when on form. I used to watch it on C4 with my mates and we'd play American Football on the yard at school. Everyone wanted to be Montana or maybe Dan Marino but for me it was always Jerry Rice who captured my imagination because he could catch just about anything and God he was fast, he'd have left Linford Christie for dead if he'd been a sprinter instead of a football player.

378 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 19:46

finlaymcdanger

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@Norpig wrote:What LPP said  Very Happy

Sounds like you follow NFL LPP, which team do you follow?

Fin - the AFC north table must look good to you at the moment, i'm trying to avoid it, the Steelers have been poor so far.
Looking rosy for now but I’m not sure how long it will last. I’ve followed them long enough to know not to get too excited. As a Bolton fan my NFL team was carefully considered.

379 Re: NFL's back again. on Fri Sep 21 2018, 19:58

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Andy Walker
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@wanderlust wrote:
@luckyPeterpiper wrote:
@wanderlust wrote:I have a question about the draft.
I like the idea that the worst team gets the first pick and the best team chooses last which theoretically should help to make it more competitive - although Tom Brady wasn't selected until the 6th round in his draft year!
The question is if you are a superstar college player that lots of clubs want, do you get the same value contract regardless of which team picks you?
The earlier in the draft you get picked the bigger the contract and signing bonus. However some teams will trade their place in the draft picking order so they can get a specific player (eg SF49ers traded with Cleveland a few years back so the Browns could bag a running back they wanted and the 49er's got a backup QB for a much lower price than they'd have had to pay had they picked him at the time they were meant to).
What I'm getting at is do all the clubs pay the same rate for a particular draft choice e.g. if you have the first pick do you have to pay the same as another club would if they got the first pick? 

However I've now found out the answer here.
Complicated.


The Browns got their money's worth last night against the Jets... #1 pick came on and beat the #3 pick.

380 Re: NFL's back again. on Tue Sep 25 2018, 01:41

wanderlust

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@wanderlust wrote:
On that note I think it's the end of the Pats' era. Brady will be 41 and was poor in the SB overall by his standards, they traded their best back up, Bellichick doesn't seem to have the buy-in he once had from his squad and I feel a change is in the air - maybe next year if they have a poor season.
Turn back the clock to the end of last season and this is starting to look prophetic although I wouldn't back against Bellichick turning it around. The kid Etling is an outside option - isn't Hoyer still around? -  but it would take a few more losses before they even consider benching the great man. From what I've seen they are serious danger of those losses coming along and if it goes completely tits up even Bellichick's job may be under review at the end of the season. But we ain't there yet.
The Chiefs on the other hand are looking better than they have in years and Mahomes has been mighty impressive so far. I know it's early doors but the Chiefs would be my tip for the SB at this early stage.

381 Re: NFL's back again. on Tue Sep 25 2018, 08:37

Norpig

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The Steelers win for the first time this season against the impressive so far this season Buccaneers  cheers

I'll not mention other results yet until Lusty watches the NFL show tonight. You couild be right about KC though Lusty, they look good and Mahomes look like a real talent.

382 Re: NFL's back again. on Thu Sep 27 2018, 13:29

Norpig

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A much better week for Boncey's Bills, they pulled off a shock win against the Vikings, the Patriots lost to the Detroit Lions and the Jaguars were beaten by the Titans which were the other shocks.

The Dolphins, Rams and Chiefs are all still unbeaten with a 3-0 record. I'm tipping the Rams to go all the way this year.



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383 Re: NFL's back again. on Thu Sep 27 2018, 13:37

boltonbonce

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The Bills certainly surprised me. They're talking about having a live buffalo run onto the field pre game.

Asking for trouble if you ask me.

384 Re: NFL's back again. on Wed Oct 03 2018, 01:58

wanderlust

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Interesting week from a "starting to find out what these teams are really about" perspective.
Pats turned it around stuffing the previously undefeated Dolphins, Chiefs just about kept their record intact, the Browns snatched defeat from the jaws of victory again, three games decided in overtime and some pretty close contests apart from Bonce's Bills. Ah well...still early days.

385 Re: NFL's back again. on Wed Oct 03 2018, 08:41

Norpig

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Not looking good for my team the Steelers, beaten by the Ravens and no sign of RB Leveon Bell coming back anytime soon.
Can't believe the Browns blew it again, they should really be 4-0 as well as they could and should have won all 4 games. The Chiefs are awesome offensively but will need to tighten up defensively if they want to get to the Superbowl. I still think the Rams are looking good as well and will go far this season.

386 Re: NFL's back again. on Wed Oct 03 2018, 10:34

boltonbonce

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Didn't see you on chatbox last night Mr Pig. I've nothing to say about The Bills.

387 Re: NFL's back again. on Wed Oct 03 2018, 13:23

Norpig

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@boltonbonce wrote:Didn't see you on chatbox last night Mr Pig. I've nothing to say about The Bills.
 I was at a gig Boncey, doesn't sound like i missed too much. I can't say anything about the Bills with the Steelers being hopeless at the moment.

388 Re: NFL's back again. on Wed Oct 03 2018, 13:36

boltonbonce

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@Norpig wrote:
@boltonbonce wrote:Didn't see you on chatbox last night Mr Pig. I've nothing to say about The Bills.
 I was at a gig Boncey, doesn't sound like i missed too much. I can't say anything about the Bills with the Steelers being hopeless at the moment.
KP was worried about you.  Very Happy

389 Re: NFL's back again. on Wed Oct 10 2018, 08:47

Norpig

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Another very interesting week in the NFL, my team the Steelers thrashed the Falcons who won't be playing a Superbowl in their own stadium it's fair to say.
The Browns won again and Bonceys Bills narrowly won against the Titans. Drew Brees became he all time passing leader and the Saints are looking good again this year.
The Chiefs and Rams are still undefeated with a 5-0 record while last years Champions the Eagles lost again and Jay Ajayi is out injured for the rest of the season.

390 Re: NFL's back again. Yesterday at 01:18

wanderlust

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What a game between the Chiefs and the Pats! Brady showed his class and Tyreek Hill showed his heels.
Great week of football.

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