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1BWFCST Statement Empty BWFCST Statement Thu Sep 08 2016, 15:21

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Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

I promise this isn't being posted to wind up Sluffy but I just clicked on this on Twitter and my first thought was WTF.
It's basically paraphrasing what KA said in his interview, a reiteration of the fact that they asked a load of questions demanding answers to the clubs financial plans and that nothing has changed.
But more subtly they congratulated all involved in the on field performance seemingly to isolate it from off field achievements.
It is very clear to me from this there has been no olive branch held out to the club after pretty poor opening exchanges, it is clear that there is no common ground and that they still think they're entitled to all the clubs financial information without offering anything in return.

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2BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Thu Sep 08 2016, 18:16

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

they are only doing what an ST should be doing, which is ask relevant questions and the one about extra investment is a valid question

Whether KA or anyone at the club takes a blind bit of notice of the ST is another question entirely, they are kind of redundant at the moment with everything ticking along nicely

3BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Thu Sep 08 2016, 19:44

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Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

Norpig wrote:they are only doing what an ST should be doing, which is ask relevant questions and the one about extra investment is a valid question

Whether KA or anyone at the club takes a blind bit of notice of the ST is another question entirely, they are kind of redundant at the moment with everything ticking along nicely
And on that basis then they should be looking to work with them for the good of the club, but the tone of this shows they have no intention of trying to.
The whole statement can do nothing but harm in my opinion, people talk about the ST getting a seat on the board.
Would you give these fucking idiots a seat on the board after they've done nothing but undermine them. This in my opinion does their members a great disservice because it makes it even less likely the club will look to involve them.
So they've effectively made themselves a shark circling for blood to exploit.

4BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Thu Sep 08 2016, 20:39

Fabians Right Peg

Fabians Right Peg
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Nothing wrong with the content of the statement although the ST has some way to go to figure out how best to engage with the new owners.

5BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Thu Sep 08 2016, 21:12

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Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

Fabians Right Peg wrote:Nothing wrong with the content of the statement although the ST has some way to go to figure out how best to engage with the new owners.
I just think the overall tone is wrong, to me it just look is like they're saying that they're waiting for the owners to fuck up and almost willing them to.
They haven't done anything to warrant the respect,trust and information they're demanding in my opinion.
I've always been taught you earn trust and respect, what have they done in that respect.
If they want to do right by the members they should be getting involved with the owners now but they're not they are trying to police them.
The owners have done more to earn the fans trust than the ST has.

6BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Thu Sep 08 2016, 21:18

Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Keep plugging away.

He'll bite in a bit.

7BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Thu Sep 08 2016, 21:26

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Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

If Bread2.0 wrote:Keep plugging away.

He'll bite in a bit.
I understand what you're saying but I was genuinely angry when I saw it. They've learned nothing, I believe in the position we've come from a trust is a great shout but these people have no idea.

8BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Thu Sep 08 2016, 21:29

Bread2.0

Bread2.0
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Why have I inherited an "If" in my name?

I now suddenly feel less sure about how I think about things.

9BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Thu Sep 08 2016, 21:35

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Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

Knob'ead2.0 wrote:Why have I inherited an "If" in my name?

I now suddenly feel less sure about how I think about things.
Posting on the phone it puts what it wants where it wants.

10BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Thu Sep 08 2016, 21:48

Bollotom2014

Bollotom2014
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

I'm surprised it's still in existence under the same failed format. Next year at renewal time will be a test.

11BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Thu Sep 08 2016, 22:30

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Fabians Right Peg wrote:Nothing wrong with the content of the statement although the ST has some way to go to figure out how best to engage with the new owners.

Correct, it's a mundane repetition of what has already been said by the club officially.

Highlight what part of that statement shows anything else.

12BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Thu Sep 08 2016, 22:56

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Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

bwfc1874 wrote:
Fabians Right Peg wrote:Nothing wrong with the content of the statement although the ST has some way to go to figure out how best to engage with the new owners.

Correct, it's a mundane repetition of what has already been said by the club officially.

Highlight what part of that statement shows anything else.
As stated earlier it's the tone and the whole questioning of the finances. The talk of the accounts, the embargo and in the last paragraph of outside investment where they state they are not aware potential interest, why the fuck should they be.
To me the whole piece reads like they realise their stock has dropped like a brick and they're trying to beat their chests to look important.
It almost looks like they begrudge the success and the goodwill and want to try and cast doubt over it.

13BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Fri Sep 09 2016, 08:29

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You nail it in your penultimate paragraph, it's a failed organisation trying to look important, but the lost it in the closing lines. There's been no evidence to say that the ST begrudge KA and by extension BWFC success, and that statement certainly doesn't say that.

14BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Fri Sep 09 2016, 08:38

rammywhite

rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

I'm not a member of the Trust and I'm quite indifferent as to whether it succeeds, or collapses but to be frank I can see nothing to object to in their statement

15BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Fri Sep 09 2016, 09:25

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Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

bwfc1874 wrote:There's been no evidence to say that the ST begrudge KA and by extension BWFC success, and that statement certainly doesn't say that.
It's the whole tone and also the timing off it which lead me to that, and I accept fully that it is just my perception of it.
In terms of the tone I've probably covered that in my earlier posts but the timing is also key for me too, because we are top of the league, despite fears we have completely revamped the squad including IMO some top acquisitions on deadline day.
Ken Anderson has come out and given what most people believe was an excellent interview highlighting exactly where we are and where he is looking to take us so suddenly people are feeling positive and getting behind the team.
My personal belief is this is ill timed and unnecessary and benefits nobody other than to serve as what I said earlier - a chest beating exercise for the failing ST.

16BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Fri Sep 09 2016, 13:10

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I think you're being a tad sensitive to be honest.

17BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Fri Sep 09 2016, 13:26

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Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

bwfc1874 wrote:I think you're being a tad sensitive to be honest.
Maybe but as I said it is my perception, but to me it seems to follow on from the theme of the ST sulking because they didn't get to play at the big boys table.

18BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Fri Sep 09 2016, 13:27

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

WGO, why are you sensitive? Did some nasty bumchum lead you on?

19BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Fri Sep 09 2016, 13:33

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Natasha Whittam wrote:WGO, why are you sensitive? Did some nasty bumchum lead you on?

Stop acting like you aren't part of the bumchum squad

20BWFCST Statement Empty Re: BWFCST Statement Fri Sep 09 2016, 13:39

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Boggersbelief wrote:Stop acting like you aren't part of the bumchum squad

Pipe down you soft shite, you're on this site because of me, I can just as easily remove you.

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