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61 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Mon Oct 24 2016, 23:24

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Boggersbelief wrote:Fantastic performance. The defence - rock solid. The high pressing, very impressive, it's the kinda game Barcelona play. If only we had a bit more quality up top to take advantage of the bang average teams in this league, we'd walk this division.
I agree. This team is looking more organised than anything we've seen for years. The work rate and pressing was impressive and the defence looks rock solid , especially with Spearing and Derik protecting them. The team kept a great shape and defended from the front as a team. It all seemed to be turning to shit by the time we lost against Oxford but fair play to Parky, he's turned it around. Very good performance.

62 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Mon Oct 24 2016, 23:45

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Frank Worthington
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The thing that encouraged me as much as anything was that we carried on trying to score instead of sitting back on the lead. We had more chances at 2-0 than they did, suddenly the 1 goal victories are becoming 2-0 and I genuinely think someone is going to get dicked soon, I was worried when we dropped off because we looked clueless but he's turned it around big time so well done to him.
The old adage of start by getting your defence right and then the rest will come is working a treat.
Interesting stat after bury went second a few weeks ago, they are now three points closer to the relegation zone than they are to us.

63 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 00:40

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Am i glad i went to this game! The atmosphere in the away end was electric and even Bury selling me a a ticket for a seat that didn't exist didn't spoil it.

We looked solid at the back and yes the 2 penalties looked soft on the telly (at the time they looked cast iron penalties) but we thoroughly deserved the 3 points

How pathetic is Bury's home crowd as well by the way? Never heard a peep out of them all night

64 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 01:06

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Frank Worthington
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Norpig wrote:How pathetic is Bury's home crowd as well by the way? Never heard a peep out of them all night
They were scared of letting on they were bury fans because they were outnumbered in there, praise the lord for open sale tickets with no ID checks

65 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 07:50

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I was really impressed last night, I know that given the difference in budgets we should be beating 'teams like Bury' but it's been a while since we actually looked good enough to do so. PP deserves a lot of credit for finding a formation that works with these players and for putting together a very solid back 4.  I thought Bury would come out flying but we set the tempo with our pressing, very encouraging.

66 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 08:01

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Nat Lofthouse
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Things are falling into place now and with the return of Clayton and Pratley not too far away, we will go on to win this league

67 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 08:10

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Nat Lofthouse
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People are getting carried away.

Yes, the defence looks good but we are still pretty awful at the other end. We won because the ref had a nightmare, both were dives and everyone knows it.

Take the dodgy penalties out of the game and did we ever look like scoring - again Clough had one to beat on the line (and it wasn't even the keeper!) and he still couldn't finish. Madine and Proctor are just fucking terrible players.

Credit to Parkinson for finally realising that Trotter has no place in this team (although you do wonder why it took him 10 games), but until he sorts out the attack we won't win anything.

68 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 08:18

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Boggersbelief wrote:Things are falling into place now and with the return of Clayton and Pratley not too far away, we will go on to win this league

Unless Pratley finds that energy he had back int day, he'll struggle to get back in the side. Thorpe (once fit) and Derik are both playing well in an improving midfield.

Once match fit, Clayton should replace Madine, who, since he came back in the side has been disappointing.

69 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 08:39

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Nat Lofthouse
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Natasha Whittam wrote:People are getting carried away.

Yes, the defence looks good but we are still pretty awful at the other end. We won because the ref had a nightmare, both were dives and everyone knows it.

Take the dodgy penalties out of the game and did we ever look like scoring - again Clough had one to beat on the line (and it wasn't even the keeper!) and he still couldn't finish. Madine and Proctor are just fucking terrible players.

Credit to Parkinson for finally realising that Trotter has no place in this team (although you do wonder why it took him 10 games), but until he sorts out the attack we won't win anything.

Bollocks

70 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 08:42

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Boggersbelief wrote:
Natasha Whittam wrote:People are getting carried away.

Yes, the defence looks good but we are still pretty awful at the other end. We won because the ref had a nightmare, both were dives and everyone knows it.

Take the dodgy penalties out of the game and did we ever look like scoring - again Clough had one to beat on the line (and it wasn't even the keeper!) and he still couldn't finish. Madine and Proctor are just fucking terrible players.

Credit to Parkinson for finally realising that Trotter has no place in this team (although you do wonder why it took him 10 games), but until he sorts out the attack we won't win anything.

Bollocks

What? All of it? When it comes to Madine and Proctor I think (s)he makes a valid point. All they do is keep a defender occupied.

71 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 08:46

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Frank Worthington
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We had 7 shots on goal last night 4 of which were saved so things are clearly improving in that area and that is 2 goals for the last 3 games, the defence is sorted now so he has focused on further up the field and the big difference as Nat rightly says is that Trotter has been dropped.
Spearing is the man who makes it tick but Vela has improved immeasurably since Trotter was dropped too.
Clough being back and seemingly full of confidence along with an improving Ameobi means we are starting to have some threat upfront and Madines hard work paves the way for the others.
Hopefully this is not a false dawn like the first 4 games and we have discovered what it takes to win this division.

72 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 09:01

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Nat does have a point tbf. I remember thinking the same thing last night. Clough should have buried that chance no problem and quite how Proctor's missed that sitter I'll never know. Ameobi's nearly hit the corner flag from the middle of the box with another but the fact is that we are improving massively. Sooner or later you would think that at least some of those chances will go in. Madine did ok last night I thought. He didn't let their defence settle and won the majority of headers against them. There's more to an attacker than just scoring goals and he played that SKD role ok imo, not as good as SKD obviously, but he certainly put in a shift.

73 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 09:02

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John McGinlay
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Madine put himself about last night and was a handful but i don't remember him having a clear cut chance, that is the one area we still need to improve to get out of this division

74 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 09:16

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John McGinlay
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i'm thinking of emailing Bury and asking for a refund on my ticket as the seat they sold me didn't exist, the fact everyone stood up the whole game is immaterial  Very Happy

They offered me a seat in the west stand with the home fans (me and a chap with his little boy, what a great idea that would have been) but they just gave up after a while and i watched the whole game from the steps

75 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 09:47

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Frank Worthington
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I didn't go last night pig, was there a lot of Bolton fans in the Bury ends

76 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 10:09

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Nat Lofthouse
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Natasha Whittam wrote:People are getting carried away.

Yes, the defence looks good but we are still pretty awful at the other end. We won because the ref had a nightmare, both were dives and everyone knows it.

Take the dodgy penalties out of the game and did we ever look like scoring - again Clough had one to beat on the line (and it wasn't even the keeper!) and he still couldn't finish. Madine and Proctor are just fucking terrible players.

Credit to Parkinson for finally realising that Trotter has no place in this team (although you do wonder why it took him 10 games), but until he sorts out the attack we won't win anything.
I broadly agree with this - there was both good and bad in last night's performance. Loved the performance and the result but the manner in which we achieved it was a bit cringeworthy. The core of the team (Beevers Wheater Spearing Derik & Vela) looked solid and not without quality but the full backs weren't great, especially Taylor who was given the run around by Ismail and Niall Maher. I still think Maher is better than what we have despite being naive when Clough conned the ref for the first pen. The forward line needs money that we haven't  got spending on it although I thought Clough did well to "win" the pens and Ameobi really does bring something different (albeit random) when he's not gasping for breath. He has such a big stride, his dribbling is like push-and-run and that will beat a lot of defenders at this level. Credit to Madine for his workrate too, but when you put it all together we're just not very potent up top.
Have to be delighted with the result that keeps us in touching distance of the mighty Scunny and the born again Blades who have a game in hand on us so it's another potential banana skin negotiated and despite our current shortcomings, Parky seems to have got the team playing well enough to be in or around the promotion places if all goes well. Not sure if Odemwingie would be the answer to our attacking problems or not, but there are other areas we need to improve on if we are to be more dominant but we can't really complain if it doesn't happen given our financial position.
All things considered I wouldn't have expected us to be where we are a few months back.

77 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 10:26

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We played well, with a limited ability team. Having said that, there is plenty of scope to improve, and I think they are on their way in this respect. The first penalty wasn't, and the second was very soft. Take those away, and we have almost nothing up front. Madine worked well, but he's employed to finish, not give the defence 'something to worry about'. 
Clough isn't as sharp as he thinks he is, but getting better. Hopefully, the Sky Motm award will spur him on, rather than let him think he's made it, and sits back.

78 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 11:04

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Nat Lofthouse
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Boggersbelief wrote:
Bollocks

So Madine & Proctor are brilliant and Trotter should be in the team?

Think before you post Boggers, you've already embarrassed yourself enough this week.

79 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 11:32

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If you take the penalties away, we didn't look like scoring? Yes we did Nat

Ameobe opened then up early on. Clough had two scoring chances, square it to Vela and it's in.

Proctor missed a sitter after a good move.  If you say our finishing was not up to scratch then fair enough but we did make plenty of chances.

Not long ago PP was a bellend we couldn't defend and all his signings were pants.

Well 5 games without conceding, 28 points, second in the table, despite all the problems, seems he knows what he is doing after all.

We are playing extremely well without the ball, closing down and keeping it tight, we need to improve our passing but lets enjoy this good spell.

80 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 11:36

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wessy wrote:If you take the penalties away, we didn't look like scoring? Yes we did Nat

Ameobe opened then up early on. Clough had two scoring chances, square it to Vela and it's in.

Proctor missed a sitter after a good move.  If you say our finishing was not up to scratch then fair enough but we did make plenty of chances.

Not long ago PP was a bellend we couldn't defend and all his signings were pants.

Well 5 games without conceding, 28 points, second in the table, despite all the problems, seems he knows what he is doing after all.

We are playing extremely well without the ball, closing down and keeping it tight, we need to improve our passing but lets enjoy this good spell.
I think thats nats point wessy.  We had chances and no one to put them away as our forward line is shite.  Cant argue with that.

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81 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 11:37

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Nat Lofthouse
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wessy wrote:If you take the penalties away, we didn't look like scoring? Yes we did Nat

Ameobe opened then up early on. Clough had two scoring chances, square it to Vela and it's in.

Proctor missed a sitter after a good move.  If you say our finishing was not up to scratch then fair enough but we did make plenty of chances.

You miss my point, I'm not saying we don't create, I'm saying these useless forwards never look like scoring. I bet we've had ten 1-on-1's with the keeper this season and scored none.

wessy wrote:Not long ago PP was a bellend we couldn't defend and all his signings were pants.

Well 5 games without conceding, 28 points, second in the table, despite all the problems, seems he knows what he is doing after all.

We are playing extremely well without the ball, closing down and keeping it tight, we need to improve our passing but lets enjoy this good spell.

I said his signings were shit apart from Beevers. And that's still true.

We're where we are mainly down to Beevers, Wheater, and Spearing.

82 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 11:38

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Natasha Whittam wrote:
wessy wrote:If you take the penalties away, we didn't look like scoring? Yes we did Nat

Ameobe opened then up early on. Clough had two scoring chances, square it to Vela and it's in.

Proctor missed a sitter after a good move.  If you say our finishing was not up to scratch then fair enough but we did make plenty of chances.

You miss my point, I'm not saying we don't create, I'm saying these useless forwards never look like scoring. I bet we've had ten 1-on-1's with the keeper this season and scored none.

wessy wrote:Not long ago PP was a bellend we couldn't defend and all his signings were pants.

Well 5 games without conceding, 28 points, second in the table, despite all the problems, seems he knows what he is doing after all.

We are playing extremely well without the ball, closing down and keeping it tight, we need to improve our passing but lets enjoy this good spell.

I said his signings were shit apart from Beevers. And that's still true.

We're where we are mainly down to Beevers, Wheater, and Spearing.
I like Howard.  His distribution in particular is quality.

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83 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 11:41

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Report: Bury 0-2 Bolton

IN BRIEF

Wanderers secured the derby bragging rights with a comfortable victory over neighbours Bury at Gigg Lane on Monday night.

Phil Parkinson’s side took the lead in the 13th minute of the clash with Zach Clough winning a penalty and converting it himself – a feat which he repeated ten minutes into the second half to double the Trotters’ advantage and his own tally for the evening.

There were even chances for the Whites to extend their lead inside the closing stages, but it was irrelevant at the final whistle as they made it five wins and as many clean sheets on the spin.

TEAM NEWS

Phil Parkinson made just the one change to the side who beat Millwall last time out with Derik Osede replacing the injured Tom Thorpe.

Neil Danns and Niall Maher meanwhile lined up against their former employers.

FIRST HALF

The game began in combative fashion, with both sides visibly up for the fight from the off.

And it was Bolton who looked the more likely inside the opening stages, with the Shakers under pressure from the outset as the Whites looked to make their mark on the clash.

Bury had struggled to even get out of their own half inside the first ten minutes and did enjoy a half chance from a corner, but right from the counter attack Bolton earned themselves the perfect opportunity to take the lead from the penalty spot.

Clough powered downfield, with the academy graduate being upended in the area by Maher to win his side a spot-kick which he duly dispatched.

Deserved given their early exploits, it was almost two shortly after as Clough sprung free of the Bury defence, but his eventual shot was deflected over the crossbar by his former academy teammate Maher.

The tempo of the game became a little tepid thereafter, although the Shakers did find a little more space with Danns firing a free-kick from 20 yards into the Bolton wall with Greg Leigh’s rebound effort high and wide just after the half hour mark.

With the clock ticking down to the break however, Mark Beevers had to be on his guard to sneak the ball away from Maher with the former Bolton man in on goal and only the keeper to beat.

As the half time whistle drew ever near, the Shakers threw men forward but Bolton’s defence stood firm to make sure the lead was maintained at the end of the first 45.

SECOND HALF

With no changes at the break, proceedings restarted and Sammy Ameobi almost doubled Bolton’s advantage immediately, only to see Ben Williams palm away his thunderous effort from 20 yards.

The hosts however then enjoyed a period of pressure, with Bolton having to withstand a wave of attacks down the left flank which they soaked up with ease.

And as before, Wanderers hit the Shakers on the counter attack with Clough again winning a spot-kick with 55 minutes on the clock.

This time in front of the travelling supporters, the little man showed all the composure in the world to again slot the ball past Williams from 12 yards to send the Bolton fans into raptures.

Wanderers, visibly not keen to settle on just two, pushed forward in a bid to extend their lead even further with Ameobi flashing an effort just wide of the upright on the hour mark.

The Shakers just couldn’t get a foothold in proceedings though, while Clough almost had a hat-trick in the 72nd minute only for the Bury keeper to push his shot round the post.

It wasn’t to be the dream conclusion for the academy graduate either as he was replaced by James Henry with 13 minutes remaining.

Jamie Proctor meanwhile, another substitute, spurned a glorious chance to put the game to bed moments later after collecting Henry’s cut-back, only to see his shot trickle agonisingly wide of the goalmouth.

The remainder of the game meanwhile passed without much action of note, with Wanderers happy to keep proceedings on the down-low as they ran out comfortable winners at the final whistle.

FULL TIME

Source

84 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 12:15

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Nat Lofthouse
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I thought it was a cracking game last night. Apart from the two penalties Clough could have had a hat trick and Procter missed a sitter. There was a crowd of 8,000 and we had 3,000 tickets yet we outsang them all night. Our keeper didn't have one save of note to make all game. More of the same on Saturday please!

85 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 12:16

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John McGinlay
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whatsgoingon wrote:I didn't go last night pig, was there a lot of Bolton fans in the Bury ends
 not that i could tell, i'm sure there must have been but there was so many Bolton fans anyway we took over  Very Happy

86 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 12:17

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Nat Lofthouse
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Norpig didn't see the game, he bought a ticket for the wrong game.

87 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 12:19

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John McGinlay
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i was there, i bet you weren't

88 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 12:20

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Frank Worthington
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Just watched the highlights again, on the chance that Clough missed on the breakaway was that the best through ball that Danns has ever played through to a Bolton striker.
Also something that is apparent, Clough seems to have a real swagger and confidence about him at the moment which is a good thing for a striker to have.

89 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 12:45

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Thing for me is that our strikers Madine in particular don't attack the ball from crosses into the box.

You watch closely whenever a cross comes into the box Madine always is behind a defender, not making space for himself or even attempting to get onto the ball.

Ok he wins headers in the final third, but as a striker he is not doing his job at the business end of the pitch, all in all he's a gutless shithouse of a player.

90 Re: Bury 0-2 Bolton - Match Report Post #83 on Tue Oct 25 2016, 12:48

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MartinBWFC wrote:Thing for me is that our strikers Madine in particular don't attack the ball from crosses into the box.

You watch closely whenever a cross comes into the box Madine always is behind a defender, not making space for himself or even attempting to get onto the ball.

Ok he wins headers in the final third, but as a striker he is not doing his job at the business end of the pitch, all in all he's a gutless shithouse of a player.
Very Happy that post started like an informed football critique and degenerated into a Nat rant, all within 1 post - nice

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