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1 England v Scotland on Fri Nov 11 2016, 19:37

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
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I'm tempted to switch off,and watch yet another episode of Last Of The Summer Wine.
I'm seeing a 4-0 win for us. Might give it 20 minutes.

2 Re: England v Scotland on Fri Nov 11 2016, 20:22

Chairmanda

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Andy Walker
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Still watching Boncey?

3 Re: England v Scotland on Fri Nov 11 2016, 20:22

Chairmanda

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Still watching Boncey?

4 Re: England v Scotland on Fri Nov 11 2016, 20:26

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
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Yes. In between watching Compo riding down a hill on an armchair.

5 Re: England v Scotland on Fri Nov 11 2016, 20:50

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Nat Lofthouse
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Cracking first goal although got that ant and Dec story on.

I'm just about to strip my iPhone and replace the battery which appears more fun. Very Happy

6 Re: England v Scotland on Fri Nov 11 2016, 23:44

Bread2.0

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Did we win?

Went out for a meal at that new Italian place in Nelson Square that Fabrice Muamba opened last week.

60 quid for two bowls of pasta plus drinks.

Nice enough but Mrs B could've done that on a tenner.

But then again, she's always been shit at breaking up play and laying it off to someone who can pick a pass, so each to their own I suppose.

7 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 12 2016, 08:32

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El Hadji Diouf
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Bread2.0 wrote:Did we win?

Went out for a meal at that new Italian place in Nelson Square that Fabrice Muamba opened last week.

60 quid for two bowls of pasta plus drinks.

Nice enough but Mrs B could've done that on a tenner.

But then again, she's always been shit at breaking up play and laying it off to someone who can pick a pass, so each to their own I suppose.

Yeah 3-0. The score flattered England a little. Fairly even first half but the Scots wilted after about 70 minutes and it was all England after that.
Scott Brown was the most industrious person on the pitch and Stones remains as a risky liability

8 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 12 2016, 09:09

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Jussi Jääskeläinen
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i did watch it, England were very poor in the first half, too much fannying about at the back. Scotland had chances early in the 2nd half and should have equalised but they lack the quality we have upfront

9 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 12 2016, 09:14

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Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
Sterling infuriates me sometimes though. He reminds me of Walcott, running down blind alleys and no end product. Missed a sitter as well. There's so much potential there but I don't think he'll ever fully realise it.

10 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 12 2016, 09:15

Norpig

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Jussi Jääskeläinen
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dives too much as well for my liking. get up and get on with it

11 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 12 2016, 14:17

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12 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 12 2016, 14:42

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El Hadji Diouf
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Copper Dragon wrote:

I'm in Scotland at the moment- up here for a week. People here are getting really fed up with Bravetart!!
The mood is changing - they want a proper first minister and not a predictable opportunist.

13 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 12 2016, 14:53

boltonbonce

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Didn't one of the Scottish papers have a completely black back page?

14 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 12 2016, 14:54

Bread2.0

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Yeah, The Record.

http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/daily-record-back-page-lays-bare-shame-of-scotlands-loss-at-wembley/97323



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15 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 12 2016, 14:54

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El Hadji Diouf
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boltonbonce wrote:Didn't one of the Scottish papers have a completely black back page?

No- it was blank. A black page uses ink and that would be a waste of money!!

16 Re: England v Scotland on Mon Nov 14 2016, 10:02

whatsgoingon

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they want a proper first minister and not a predictable opportunist.

What a great description of her, all she ever does is jump on bandwagons with a load of ra-ra rhetoric

edit - that was weird the quote didn't appear

17 Re: England v Scotland on Mon Nov 14 2016, 10:21

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whatsgoingon wrote:they want a proper first minister and not a predictable opportunist.

What a great description of her, all she ever does is jump on bandwagons with a load of ra-ra rhetoric

edit - that was weird the quote didn't appear
Agree completely. As with most politicians, they appear with lots of plans, and gusto, and then settle into their roles.
Bravetart, (I love that name), came in with all sorts of plans, which went straight out the window when the oil prices nosedived.
My missus is a Jock, but even so, I like the Scots, (Very Happy ), and their country, but this woman is seriously pissing people off with her repeated moaning. She's turning into a one trick pony, but more importantly, she's getting nowhere, and the country's finances are getting seriously depleted, (by all accounts).

18 Re: England v Scotland on Mon Nov 14 2016, 19:34

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I'm not one to completely write managers off before they've hardly started, but I've never been as confident of anything in my life as Southgate being another total England failure.

It made me laugh on TalkShite earlier.

"The thing is, the players clearly want this appointment, they all clearly support Southgate in getting the job."

I wonder why that is?!

You can completely imagine Gareth knocking this bunch of prima donnas into touch can't you...

Of course they're 100% behind him. Because he's yet another soft touch with absolutely no personality, and absolutely no drive or ability to knock the stinking attitude out of English players.

I think he'd have been the FA's first choice even if Scotland had won, but it'd have been well worth losing to them if it had driven him out of contention.

Southgate is just a waste of yet another major competition from an England point of view.

19 Re: England v Scotland on Mon Nov 14 2016, 20:40

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
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We'll never win anything (or even come close) until the FA and the Premier League do what the Germans did after they were humiliated at Euro 2000.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/23/germany-bust-boom-talent

The big difference is, however, that the national team winning things is actually quite important to your average German football fan, whereas over here, it's all about how many (average) foreign players your club can sign and pay 80 grand a week to play average football.

Because Sky says so.

It will never change.

20 Re: England v Scotland on Fri Nov 18 2016, 21:39

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El Hadji Diouf
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Another issue is the "good 'ol shift" ......  the typical British supporter and manager for that matter can't get around that one.  Players that hump up and down the pitch to are just grand if they put in that shift. But a skilled player is deemed lazy or only playing for the money etc etc...
Using one of our own for example ..... Klasnic barely broke a sweat in a normal game but had finishing skills not seen since at BWFC.  I recall supporters calling him lazy at the time. 
I think we can agree that the Europeans have always fancied skill over pure work rate. Seems that way to me anyhow.

21 Re: England v Scotland on Fri Nov 18 2016, 21:41

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Nat Lofthouse
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terenceanne wrote:Another issue is the "good 'ol shift" ......  the typical British supporter and manager for that matter can't get around that one.  Players that hump up and down the pitch to are just grand if they put in that shift. But a skilled player is deemed lazy or only playing for the money etc etc...
Using one of our own for example ..... Klasnic barely broke a sweat in a normal game but had finishing skills not seen since at BWFC.  I recall supporters calling him lazy at the time. 
I think we can agree that the Europeans have always fancied skill over pure work rate. Seems that way to me anyhow.

Klasnic was a lazy bastard, and in a side like ours who were always going to be fighting relegation you need 11 committed players. A mixture of skill and graft makes you a top player

22 Re: England v Scotland on Fri Nov 18 2016, 21:48

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Nat Lofthouse
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Berbatov was a good example. A good player that could have been a great player,with a bit of effort.

23 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 19 2016, 12:25

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El Hadji Diouf
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Boggersbelief wrote:
terenceanne wrote:Another issue is the "good 'ol shift" ......  the typical British supporter and manager for that matter can't get around that one.  Players that hump up and down the pitch to are just grand if they put in that shift. But a skilled player is deemed lazy or only playing for the money etc etc...
Using one of our own for example ..... Klasnic barely broke a sweat in a normal game but had finishing skills not seen since at BWFC.  I recall supporters calling him lazy at the time. 
I think we can agree that the Europeans have always fancied skill over pure work rate. Seems that way to me anyhow.

Klasnic was a lazy bastard, and in a side like ours who were always going to be fighting relegation you need 11 committed players. A mixture of skill and graft makes you a top player

I rest my case your honor.....

24 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 19 2016, 12:32

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Nat Lofthouse
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Boggersbelief wrote:Klasnic was a lazy bastard, and in a side like ours who were always going to be fighting relegation you need 11 committed players. A mixture of skill and graft makes you a top player

Laughable post.

Klasnic scored at nearly a goal a game when he started.

I'd rather have a player who scored at that rate than someone who ran around a bit with no end product.

If we'd had a "passenger" who scored a goal nearly every game we'd still be in the Championship.

25 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 19 2016, 13:41

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Nat Lofthouse
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Natasha Whittam wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:Klasnic was a lazy bastard, and in a side like ours who were always going to be fighting relegation you need 11 committed players. A mixture of skill and graft makes you a top player

Laughable post.

Klasnic scored at nearly a goal a game when he started.

I'd rather have a player who scored at that rate than someone who ran around a bit with no end product.

If we'd had a "passenger" who scored a goal nearly every game we'd still be in the Championship.
Teams like us can't afford luxury players, to match the top teams we need 100% effort. Players like klasnic are the reason we are league one now a days

26 Re: England v Scotland on Sat Nov 19 2016, 18:33

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Nat Lofthouse
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Boggersbelief wrote:
Teams like us can't afford luxury players, to match the top teams we need 100% effort. Players like klasnic are the reason we are league one now a days

One of the reasons we got relegated from the PL was the lack of game time given to Klasnic.

If you think a player who scores nearly a goal a game is a luxury you're more of a bellend than I thought.

If a Bolton player scored 30 goals this season and did nothing else would you complain?

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