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1 Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Fri Dec 30 2016, 23:54

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I go to all the games but I don't keep up that much with who's contract runs till when etc. In some cases I don't even know for certain if a player is a loaned player or a full contract player...

So, my question is, who if anyone are we likely to lose in January?

Correct my list if it is wrong but this is how I understand our squad...


Alnwick and Howard - I think we are ok /perm
Wilson - ok / perm
A Taylor ? Loan/Perm?
Wheater ok / Perm
Beevers Perm /for sale?
Spearing /Perm
Thorpe / Loan?
Clough / Perm /for sale?
Ameobi Loan ?
Vela Perm /for sale?
Madine / perm ok

C Taylor - hopefully get rid
Anderson Loan
Osede Perm ok
Henry Loan
Moxey Perm ok
Buxton ?


It would be a huge blow for us to lose Clough, Ameobi or A.Taylor, and also a blow to lose Beevers, Vela and Spearing...

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2 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Sat Dec 31 2016, 00:20

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Spearing's off to Newcastle in Jan - (£500k plus add-ons should they go up), done deal.

Everton have been sniffing round Clough and tabled a deal a while back but KA's confident that he can get more for him if a bidding war starts in Jan. (No idea who else is in for him but there are interested parties out there apparently.)

Beevers has attracted attention from a couple of Championship teams but their interest has been very tentative thus far and may come to nothing.

Derek is on Osasuna's radar and they may come in before the season ends with a cheeky bid if he's not getting the game time he craves. (His agent has indicated as much in the Spanish press.)

Doris is considering a job at Tesco because they offer a better break pattern to the one she currently has to endure (8 hours, one fag break, lots of shoe-shining, no perks).

Post truth - It's almost factual.

3 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Sat Dec 31 2016, 11:16

Fabians Right Peg

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According to the BEN we have not asked to extend loans for Ameobi or Henry.

4 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Sat Dec 31 2016, 11:42

Sluffy

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Fabians Right Peg wrote:According to the BEN we have not asked to extend loans for Ameobi or Henry.

To be more exact, we have not YET asked to extend their loans, as we are waiting until the end of their initial loan period just in case they pick up a bad injury and we can't send them back and get a replacement in during the window - or at least that is how I read it.

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5 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Sat Dec 31 2016, 13:19

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Bread2.0 wrote:Spearing's off to Newcastle in Jan - (£500k plus add-ons should they go up), done deal.
Are You Boggers in disguise !! LOL !! no insult intended Bread  haha lol!

6 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Sat Dec 31 2016, 13:43

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
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I made the whole thing up and I'm sure Boggers never does that......

7 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Sun Jan 01 2017, 10:05

King Bill

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Biggie wrote:I go to all the games but I don't keep up that much with who's contract runs till when etc. In some cases I don't even know for certain if a player is a loaned player or a full contract player...

So, my question is, who if anyone are we likely to lose in January?

Correct my list if it is wrong but this is how I understand our squad...


Alnwick and Howard - I think we are ok /perm
Wilson - ok / perm
A Taylor ? Loan/Perm?
Wheater ok / Perm
Beevers Perm /for sale?
Spearing /Perm
Thorpe / Loan?
Clough / Perm /for sale?
Ameobi Loan ?
Vela Perm /for sale?
Madine / perm ok

C Taylor - hopefully get rid
Anderson Loan
Osede Perm ok
Henry Loan
Moxey Perm ok
Buxton ?


It would be a huge blow for us to lose Clough, Ameobi or A.Taylor, and also a blow to lose Beevers, Vela and Spearing...

Same here Biggie, I don't tend to keep up with contracts, loan deals, etc.

Agreed, all the players you mention losing would have a big effect on our run in. I would also include Thorpe in that list too who pairs up well with JS in midfield. 

I think Parky could do with having a look at a new striker in Jan, if possible. Goals are still a problem and I don't think Madine, although he works hard, will ever prove himself even at this level.
If Parky cannot find a striker in Jan, I'd like to see Proctor given a few games to prove himself and a more central or right role for Clough, lads wasted ont left hand side.

8 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Sun Jan 01 2017, 10:11

Natasha Whittam

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King Bill wrote:
If Parky cannot find a striker in Jan, I'd like to see Proctor given a few games to prove himself and a more central or right role for Clough, lads wasted ont left hand side.

Proctor has proven himself to be fooking useless, our bad spell happened when Madine was injured and Proctor had a run of games.

The problem isn't Madine, he's one of the best in the league at what he does, the problem (as has been said on another thread this morning) is that no one picks up the balls that Madine wins. Clough plays too wide.

9 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Sun Jan 01 2017, 10:39

Fabians Right Peg

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Tony Kelly
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Natasha Whittam wrote:
King Bill wrote:
If Parky cannot find a striker in Jan, I'd like to see Proctor given a few games to prove himself and a more central or right role for Clough, lads wasted ont left hand side.

Proctor has proven himself to be fooking useless, our bad spell happened when Madine was injured and Proctor had a run of games.

The problem isn't Madine, he's one of the best in the league at what he does, the problem (as has been said on another thread this morning) is that no one picks up the balls that Madine wins. Clough plays too wide.


Clough is too light weight to play central against larger centre backs, parky is getting more from him playing him wider.

10 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Sun Jan 01 2017, 10:50

Natasha Whittam

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Fabians Right Peg wrote:

Clough is too light weight to play central against larger centre backs, parky is getting more from him playing him wider.

I don't disagree, but our lack of goals is down to not having an out-and-out striker to play with Madine.

Clough has 7 goals and 2 assists, I suspect if Billy Sharp or Rob Earnshaw was playing up top for us they'd have 15 goals and 5 assists.

11 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Sun Jan 01 2017, 11:49

Fabians Right Peg

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One thing our forward players seem to be unable to do is read where Madine will put the ball from a flick on and vice versa, Madine seems unable to play the ball on to the on running players consistently.

They are getting better, Vela's goal yesterday was great link up between Madine and him and you could see Madine telling him to hold off his run ready for the knock down.

Hopefully a bit more understanding and they will knock a few more in.

12 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Sun Jan 01 2017, 21:09

NickFazer

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I think we will lose at least 1, Vela or Clough, unfortunately our finances may force KA's hand if no arrangement with Deano is imminent. Parky knows what he's doing and maybe Clayton would be a decent option to play off Madine if Clough goes. If Vela goes that would be more difficult to resolve.

13 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Sun Jan 01 2017, 23:03

Bread2.0

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I get what you're saying but who the fuck is going to gamble on Clayton?

If KA pulls that one off he's a genius.

14 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Mon Jan 02 2017, 09:17

rammywhite

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No one seems to be talking about Samizadeh. Is he still with us or has he moved on ?

15 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Mon Jan 02 2017, 09:26

Fabians Right Peg

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Tony Kelly
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rammywhite wrote:No one seems to be talking about Samizadeh. Is he still with us or has he moved on ?

Was on work experience at chorley, still playing in the development squad, think he played the checkertrade trophy early this year.

16 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Mon Jan 02 2017, 09:28

finlaymcdanger


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I'd be surprised if he let Clough, Vela or even Clayton go in this window. Spearing is the biggest danger. If they can offload his wages I'm sure they will and that could seriously disrupt our season.

17 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Mon Jan 02 2017, 09:36

Fabians Right Peg

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finlaymcdanger wrote:I'd be surprised if he let Clough, Vela or even Clayton go in this window. Spearing is the biggest danger. If they can offload his wages I'm sure they will and that could seriously disrupt our season.

Think Vela is the key if we keep hold of him we should be okay, Derik could do the same role as spearing. If we lose clough or don't get ameobi back then clayton could step up.

Vela has been a revelation this year, he seems to have gained a yard of pace and covers every yard of the pitch closing down from the front, not sure who else we have who could do that as effectively.

18 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Mon Jan 02 2017, 15:20

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Zach on the bench today, hopefully because he needs a break as he looked jaded on Sat and not being protected ahead of a move.

19 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Mon Jan 02 2017, 17:55

Sluffy

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Tweet just now from Ken Anderson's son, Lee -


For all those speaking about Sammy. Let's see how the week rolls . He wants to stay and so do we . Rafa wants him in training

20 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Mon Jan 02 2017, 18:13

Bread2.0

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He's going back then.....

21 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Mon Jan 02 2017, 18:16

Natasha Whittam

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No major loss.

Anyone with hair could play the Ameobi roll.

22 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Mon Jan 02 2017, 21:25

Norpig

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seems like both Ameobi and Henry have gone. Not too bothered about Henry but Ameobi will be a loss no matter what Nat thinks

23 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Mon Jan 02 2017, 21:30

Bread2.0

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Junior said Henry was staying earlier on Twatter.

Where'd you get that from?

24 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Mon Jan 02 2017, 21:34

Norpig

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i saw it on a facebook so it may not be gospel to be fair. Someone in the Reebok roar group spoke to Ameobi and he said it was his last game but it could be bollocks about Henry

25 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Mon Jan 02 2017, 21:41

Natasha Whittam

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They both need to go, we can do better.

I'm sure all you tarts will miss Ameobi's hair though.

26 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Tue Jan 03 2017, 08:57

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Norpig wrote:i saw it on a facebook so it may not be gospel to be fair. Someone in the Reebok roar group spoke to Ameobi and he said it was his last game but it could be bollocks about Henry
early contender for understatement of the year, could only be beaten by:
boggers posted it so it may not be gospel  Very Happy
I also believe Ameobi will be a loss, the fat Spanish waiter won't have him anywhere near the first team but hopefully Clayton can stay fit and step up.

27 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Tue Jan 03 2017, 09:06

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In our circumstances, getting quality replacements isn't straightforward so I hope they have the sense to make sure that we don't end up with nothing.

28 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Tue Jan 03 2017, 10:43

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Seems they've gone back to their home clubs because we've not paid the loan fee to date for them yet!!!

Bolton Wanderers' Sammy Ameobi loan deal from Newcastle United not dead yet

WANDERERS are refusing to give up hope on re-signing Sammy Ameobi on loan from Newcastle United.

The winger returned to Tyneside after the 2-2 draw against Coventry City and The Bolton News understands the Championship club are refusing to release him again unless his loan fee for the first half of the campaign is paid up in full.

Ameobi is unlikely to feature for Rafa Benitez and is keen to remain in the North West, where he has become a fan-favourite in the last few months.

Whites chairman Ken Anderson held talks with Magpies officials last night hoping to reach an agreement but the 24-year-old is unlikely to be back at the Macron in time to face Crystal Palace in the FA Cup this weekend.

Parkinson admits he may have to look elsewhere if he is unsuccessful in striking a deal with the Toon.

“Sammy will go back there this week and have a chat with them,” he told The Bolton News. “We always wanted to address the situation after the Coventry game because Ken has been away.

“We will have a chat and try to get a deal done but if we can’t then we’ll try and get somebody else in.

“We’d like to keep him because he’s been excellent for us. But if finances don’t dictate then we’ll have to find another player who can give us equal benefit.

“It’s the same situation for James
. Ken has spoken to Wolves and we’ve had dialogue with Newcastle – I think there has been some issues with the money etc.

“But we will resolve it because the aim is to make sure the squad stays strong.”

Parkinson was delighted to see Max Clayton come on for his first league game since November to grab a 91st-minute equaliser at the Ricoh Arena which kept Wanderers in second place.

“It is like having a quality new striker,” he said of the youngster, who had played just five minutes of football this season. “He has been waiting patiently since pre-season but the lads are delighted in there because of all the hard work he’s done.

“Max has courage around the box to take opportunities and his movement is good. He can sniff out chances like that.”

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29 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Tue Jan 03 2017, 11:00

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Pretty sure this ready-made replacement is available:

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30 Re: Will we lose any loan players in Jan? on Tue Jan 03 2017, 12:22

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Sluffy wrote:Seems they've gone back to their home clubs because we've not paid the loan fee to date for them yet!!!

Bolton Wanderers' Sammy Ameobi loan deal from Newcastle United not dead yet

WANDERERS are refusing to give up hope on re-signing Sammy Ameobi on loan from Newcastle United.

The winger returned to Tyneside after the 2-2 draw against Coventry City and The Bolton News understands the Championship club are refusing to release him again unless his loan fee for the first half of the campaign is paid up in full.

Ameobi is unlikely to feature for Rafa Benitez and is keen to remain in the North West, where he has become a fan-favourite in the last few months.

Whites chairman Ken Anderson held talks with Magpies officials last night hoping to reach an agreement but the 24-year-old is unlikely to be back at the Macron in time to face Crystal Palace in the FA Cup this weekend.

Parkinson admits he may have to look elsewhere if he is unsuccessful in striking a deal with the Toon.

“Sammy will go back there this week and have a chat with them,” he told The Bolton News. “We always wanted to address the situation after the Coventry game because Ken has been away.

“We will have a chat and try to get a deal done but if we can’t then we’ll try and get somebody else in.

“We’d like to keep him because he’s been excellent for us. But if finances don’t dictate then we’ll have to find another player who can give us equal benefit.

“It’s the same situation for James
. Ken has spoken to Wolves and we’ve had dialogue with Newcastle – I think there has been some issues with the money etc.

“But we will resolve it because the aim is to make sure the squad stays strong.”

Parkinson was delighted to see Max Clayton come on for his first league game since November to grab a 91st-minute equaliser at the Ricoh Arena which kept Wanderers in second place.

“It is like having a quality new striker,” he said of the youngster, who had played just five minutes of football this season. “He has been waiting patiently since pre-season but the lads are delighted in there because of all the hard work he’s done.

“Max has courage around the box to take opportunities and his movement is good. He can sniff out chances like that.”

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So in short the reason they're going back is because we haven't paid what we are supposed to have paid. It's a no brainer for them to recall them if we haven't paid what we agreed to pay.
So all this we want to see him train is bollocks, it's a straightforward pay up or fuck off situation

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