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31 Re: Relegation watch on Mon May 01 2017, 16:36

Norpig

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John McGinlay
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Have a look at the link and then tell me we haven't missed him, if Forest still owe us money for him i would say send him back to us

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/bolton-wanderers/top-scorers

32 Re: Relegation watch on Mon May 01 2017, 16:37

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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Sluffy wrote:
Natasha Whittam wrote:
Norpig wrote:I'd take Zac back in a heartbeat

I wouldn't.

We've been far more effective since he left.

Good player, but was anonymous for long periods. A luxury we couldn't afford.

I've never seen him play in the flesh so can only base my analysis of him on what I've seen on TV and streams but I'd go along with Natasha's view.

He's undoubtedly got great ball skills but he seems to small and dare I say lightweight, to be fully effective in a team.

The fact that no other teams lined themselves up to bid for him at a time when we were prepared to sell urgently for whatever we could get, seems to back that up to my thinking.

I tend to think his best position would be as 'set up' striker, a player who can make that telling pass inside the penalty box - a sort of Teddy Sheringham style player.

I can imagine him more effective in a successful team rather than one struggling like we were last season and Forest since his transfer.

I don't think we could afford him back nor would ne be what we need next season.
I agree with both of you. We'll definitely need more firepower in the Championship and Zach has demonstrated he hasn't got it. That said we don't know what budget we'll have yet.

33 Re: Relegation watch on Mon May 01 2017, 16:40

Sluffy

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NickFazer wrote:Will Parky go back for Ameobi?

I guess it depends on what money we have and what positions need to be filled - and what embargo constraints we might still be facing.

As far as I can understand it both Ameobi and Morais are free agents and would do a similar job for us. With a dozen or more out of contract this summer, it might be a bit much for us to have both of them fighting for just one position.

It might mean we might have to plump for one or the other even if nobody else wants them - and they will!



34 Re: Relegation watch on Mon May 01 2017, 16:52

Sluffy

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Norpig wrote:Have a look at the link and then tell me we haven't missed him, if Forest still owe us money for him i would say send him back to us

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/bolton-wanderers/top-scorers

I'm not sure of the relevance of those stats piggy?

We will be a struggling Championship side next season and I would think his performances at Forest this season would be more relevant.

The fact that the Forest management aren't currently picking him (assuming he's not injured or suspended) and they are desperately in needs of goals to stay up, seems to be more telling to me than 9 goals he got in a clearly not wonderful third division that we've just got promoted from.

Just my view on things.

35 Re: Relegation watch on Mon May 01 2017, 17:02

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
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NickFazer wrote:Will Parky go back for Ameobi?

I hope not.

Morais has shown what a winger with an end product can do, Ameobi was all running and no final ball.

Sign Morais, forget about Ameobi.

36 Re: Relegation watch on Mon May 01 2017, 17:03

Norpig

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John McGinlay
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thats what this site is about, different opinions, i just feel he still has a lot more to offer and think he will only get better with time. He started off well at Forest with 4 goals but they are struggling in general.

I still think he was pushed out because we needed the money and i suppose us getting Morais and ALF in his place justifies his leaving, but i would still love to see him pull on a white shirt again

37 Re: Relegation watch on Mon May 01 2017, 17:14

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
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Ameobi has played at Championship level over 90 times for Newcastle and Cardiff and scored just 3 goals.

If he can't produce in a Newcastle team full of quality players, he isn't going to do it playing alongside Spearing and Pratley.

If we signed Ameobi and let Morais go I would be seething.

38 Re: Relegation watch on Mon May 01 2017, 17:14

NickFazer

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Andy Walker
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I would love Clough back as well, don't think it likely though unless Forest go down.

39 Re: Relegation watch on Tue May 02 2017, 10:20

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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I don't think we can afford to be nostalgic about Clough just because he's one of our own academy products. The fact is we'll need a lot better strikers than him if we are going to survive next year and we need to cast the net a lot wider than the usual suspects.

40 Re: Relegation watch on Tue May 02 2017, 14:45

Cajunboy

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Tony Kelly
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I think the sale of Clough and the loss of  Ameobi, caused Parky to do a mini rebuild in the transfer window that gave us our promotion.

Clough is too lightweight and Ameobi's final ball is rubbish.

41 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 10:42

wanderlust

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Today's the day that one of three teams will join Wigan and Rotherham in league 1.

Will it be the Florist, the Bluenoses or "the most successful town club in the country"?

Really hope it's Blackburn.

42 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 11:52

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
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I'm really looking forward to the games, I dislike all three clubs in danger of going down.

I want Blackburn to go down for obvious reasons, but it would be almost as funny if Forest went down after they spent £3m on our lightweight Mavies clone.

They've left Clough out today, no surprise there.

43 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 12:15

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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Rovers leading already, but Brentford coming back strongly.

44 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 12:17

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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Clough on for Florist. 

But effing hell, it's 2 nil to Rovers thanks to Danny Guthrie FFS!

45 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 12:18

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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And Brum score!

46 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 12:27

wanderlust

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Ex-Wanderers at the centre of the action today. Guthrie scores for Rovers, Juke provides the assist for Brum's goal and now Clough is on to try to save Florist who now have to win by 2. 

Long way to go though.

47 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 12:44

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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Florist score!

Ahead of Rovers on goals scored.

48 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 13:04

NickFazer

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Looks like Rovers will need to outscore Forest.

49 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 13:14

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
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Brentford have now scored.

50 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 13:43

Keegan

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Blackburn seem to be down, but the fat lady hasn't quite sung yet.

http://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk

51 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 13:45

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
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Would no one have liked BBurn to have stayed in the Champ so we could play them next season? 

Good derby and all that?

Just a thought!

52 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 13:46

rammywhite

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karlypants wrote:Would no one have liked BBurn to have stayed in the Champ so we could play them next season? 

Good derby and all that?

Just a thought!

Yes-I would have liked them to stay a sit would have meant 4 or possibly 6 points for us as they're so bad.

53 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 13:57

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
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Well tough, because they're down.  Very Happy

54 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 14:00

gloswhite

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Youri Djorkaeff
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Forest played well, even though Clough was as much use as tits on a bull

55 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 14:01

Keegan

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The fat lady has done two verses and a chorus. Blackburn and Wigan are down.

http://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk

56 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 14:03

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
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Hilarious.

I look forward to their relegation to League 2 in 12 months time.

57 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 14:12

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Happy days! 
They'll not be lording it over us in north Bolton for a while and it's a big "f*** you" to all the turncoats who sold out when Rovers bought the Premiership.

58 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 14:25

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
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A lot of Blackburn fans crying at the end.

I don't understand people crying at football. Save your tears for real problems, not a team full of overpaid ponces going down.

59 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 15:01

Norpig

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John McGinlay
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Good riddance to the chicken pluckers, i'm sure they laughed at us last year so only right to return the favour

60 Re: Relegation watch on Sun May 07 2017, 15:24

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
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Norpig wrote:Good riddance to the chicken pluckers
I'm sure there's a spelling mistake there although that could just be me. Very Happy

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