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121 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sat Apr 29 2017, 11:49

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wanderlust wrote:As sluffy eloquently points out "the polls are at best an indicator of current views" - just as the referendum reflected the views of those who voted on one day last year.
However the point is that if the majority of brits currently think we should remain is may taking a risk in trying to make the election about brexit?
It would suggest that the Torres majority could be reduced rather than increased as expected - but I suppose it's a better plan than drawing attention to the tories  disastrous record.


You are either so bitter that your prejudice is effecting your sense or you are a wum.

A poll is an INDICATOR (a sample size) as I've said above of what MIGHT happen, a referendum is a FACTUAL event (an actual voting record of HOW the decision was made).

Poll's can be and are wrong at times, referendums are factual results.

FFS Yougov isn't even connected to the government (despite it's name) it is just a market research company.

You really need to move on with your life over this.

122 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sat Apr 29 2017, 17:01

wanderlust

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You asked if you'd missed something.
Is that apart from the entire point of what I was saying?

123 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sat Apr 29 2017, 23:02

Sluffy

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wanderlust wrote:You asked if you'd missed something.
Is that apart from the entire point of what I was saying?

How the hell can I (or anyone else) understand your point when it is complete bollocks!!!?

You've based your whole premise on something you clearly haven't understood!

You claim that "Brexit supporters are 'officially' in the minority"

You base this assertion upon a YouGov poll (as per another thread).

You clearly had NO IDEA whatsoever that YouGov are a privately owned business with NO links at all to Her Majesty's Government.

It is simply a poll that they have undertaken.

Based on a sample size.

And therefore open to error.

Just because YouGov may have asked a couple of blokes in the pub about how they feel about Brexit doesn't make their findings 'official' or even correct!!!

To be fair I don't doubt YouGov have done a professional job but they probably did exactly the same at the time of the referendum along with all the other reputable polling companies - and they all had Remain to win on the day.

They were ALL wrong!

It is NOT 'official' at all that Brexit voters are in the minority, even though a random polling company may say so.

That's why May, Corbyn and everybody else has taken this with a pinch of salt - that is everyone but YOU!

124 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Tue May 02 2017, 13:16

Norpig

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Jussi Jääskeläinen
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this tit is standing for election in my area - Gorton, can't see him winning  Very Happy

125 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Tue May 02 2017, 13:31

karlypants

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Diane Abbot has made a tit of herself on LBC this morning. Very Happy

126 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Tue May 02 2017, 14:55

boltonbonce

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karlypants wrote:Diane Abbot has made a tit of herself on LBC this morning. Very Happy
Not unusual. Only the venue changes. Laughing

127 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Tue May 02 2017, 15:30

Cajunboy

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It takes the heat off Boris for 24 hours.

128 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sun May 07 2017, 18:00

Bread2.0

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There's a lot to get through and digest here but it's well worth ploughing through if you give a shit about the notion of liberal democracy and not being manipulated by unseen forces:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy?CMP=share_btn_tw

129 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sun May 07 2017, 18:02

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
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Is there an article about fairies at the bottom of the garden as well?

130 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sun May 07 2017, 18:03

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
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Did you read all that in just 2 minutes?

Wow....I'm impressed.

131 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sun May 07 2017, 18:08

Natasha Whittam

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I read the first few paragraphs, laughed out loud, and went back to making my life size paper mache Theresa May.

132 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sun May 07 2017, 18:20

y2johnny

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Natasha Whittam wrote:I read the first few paragraphs, laughed out loud, and went back to making my life size paper mache Theresa May sex doll.  It was either that or get cecil to dress as her.  Me so horny for may.
 Smile

http://Www.thefacefittester.co.uk

133 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sun May 07 2017, 18:25

boltonbonce

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134 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sun May 07 2017, 18:27

Natasha Whittam

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Her nose isn't that big. I've made mine much smaller.

135 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sun May 07 2017, 18:29

boltonbonce

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Natasha Whittam wrote:Her nose isn't that big. I've made mine much smaller.
What is she sucking?

136 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sun May 07 2017, 18:37

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
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Pervert.

137 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sun May 07 2017, 19:09

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
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Vive La France!

138 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Sun May 07 2017, 20:14

finlaymcdanger


Andy Walker
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Bread2.0 wrote:Vive La France!

Entendre, entendre!

139 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Mon May 08 2017, 09:29

wanderlust

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Macron may have got two thirds of the votes cast but it's clear that a lot of people weren't keen on either candidate. More people abstained or spoiled their ballot papers than voted for Le Pen.
Macron's stance on Brexit is that he will negotiate hard but doesn't seek to punish the UK - which I suspect Junckers does.

140 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Mon May 08 2017, 13:11

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Junkers pissed on his own candle last weekend. Apparently Merkel is furious with him, as he ensured that more people would vote for the Tories, thus giving them an even stronger mandate when negotiating Brexit.

141 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Mon May 08 2017, 14:03

wanderlust

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As regards our general erection, whilst I know it's not going to be about the economy or the Tories piss poor performance or anything vaguely relevant to anything other than political posturing and ego, but I did notice that UK house prices fell this quarter for the first time since 2012 AND that the Tory manifesto contains a renewal of the pledge to get net immigration down below 100k p.a. despite them having promised this twice before and have failed miserably on both occasions.

Perhaps failure isn't relevant as long as they keep pitching soundbite "policies"?

142 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Mon May 08 2017, 15:45

Natasha Whittam

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House prices falling is a good thing (even though it's only one report that says they are).

But I see where this is going. The vast majority will vote Tory but wanderlust (and probably Bread) will brand them all idiots for not seeing the truth.

Just like they did when they were in the minority at the Brexit vote. Bitter.

143 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Mon May 08 2017, 21:16

gloswhite

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I think its commendable that they continue to stick to their guns.

Wander, if you don't achieve something, do you give up ?

144 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Mon May 08 2017, 21:28

Natasha Whittam

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gloswhite wrote:I think its commendable that they continue to stick to their guns.

Wander, if you don't achieve something, do you give up ?

There's sticking to your guns, and then there's being a smug bellend.

145 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Tue May 09 2017, 09:50

wanderlust

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Natasha Whittam wrote:House prices falling is a good thing 
Indeed. Otherwise they would be unaffordable to the additional 1.5 million immigrants the Tories have let in during their current tenure.

Fortunately there is a solution....

146 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Tue May 09 2017, 11:14

Natasha Whittam

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I will admit to being slightly peeved this morning about Theresa May's claim she's going to cap energy prices.

The Tories have been in power for seven years, the party could have done this at any time, it shouldn't be an election pledge.

147 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Tue May 09 2017, 11:50

wanderlust

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Natasha Whittam wrote:I will admit to being slightly peeved this morning about Theresa May's claim she's going to cap energy prices.

The Tories have been in power for seven years, the party could have done this at any time, it shouldn't be an election pledge.
I don't see how it's going to work seeing as thanks to Maggie most of our energy is nowadays supplied by foreign companies like EDF (French) Npower and E.on (both German) and shortly the Chinese when they build the nuclear plant.

Capping the amount they charge will only drive them away leaving a void in the supply and eventually a huge price rise as the British companies didn't win the contracts in the first place as they were too expensive will have to fill the void so gawd knows what their costs would be if the French and Germans pull out and the Brits have to step in. 

And if Scotland goes independent the rest of England's energy supply will be foreign owned. 

Naive and short-sighted.

148 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Tue May 09 2017, 12:00

y2johnny

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Going to salford precinct shortly Smile

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149 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Tue May 09 2017, 12:29

wanderlust

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Corbyn launches Labour's manifesto with a string of straplines which I imagine will form the basis of policy including:
"Stronger rights at work"
"Safer communities"
"Fully funded NHS"
"A more peaceful world" 
"Public ownership of rail"
"Dignity in old age"
"Creating good jobs"
"Tackle child poverty"
"Ban zero hours contracts"

I am particularly struck by "a more peaceful world" which sounds like he's plagiarising a Miss World contestant. Which is weird coming from a party that endorses the renewal of Trident at a cost greater than the NHS budget.

Looking forward to seeing the meat on the bones i.e. how everything is paid for if Trident goes ahead.

Meanwhile Ian Lavery gives a commanding speech and shows his credentials to possibly be the next Labour leader.

150 Re: General Election - 8th June. on Tue May 09 2017, 12:33

boltonbonce

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y2johnny wrote:Going to salford precinct shortly Smile
Used to love Eccles. Dad got all his gear here.

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