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1 Tim Farron quits. on Wed Jun 14 2017, 19:13

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Get in there girl.

2 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Wed Jun 14 2017, 19:47

finlaymcdanger

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Homophobe

3 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Wed Jun 14 2017, 20:25

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Looking forward to wanderlust's post blaming it all on the Tories.

4 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Wed Jun 14 2017, 20:44

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Very Happy

5 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Wed Jun 14 2017, 21:10

Reebok Trotter

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Strange one is this. He actually did better than Cleggy last time round.

6 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Thu Jun 15 2017, 04:11

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I blame the Tories for this

7 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Thu Jun 15 2017, 10:54

gloswhite

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Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Odd really, He's virtually admitted that he lied throughout the campaign. Having said that, he's got the integrity to pack it all in for his faith, (knowing he wasn't going anywhere, very quickly, will have helped).
I didn't like his politics particularly, but I wish him well.
(Diane Abbot to follow ?  Very Happy )

8 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Thu Jun 15 2017, 11:03

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Sounds like he'd fit in with the DUP.  not very liberal really

9 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Thu Jun 15 2017, 14:27

Bollotom2014

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Tony Kelly
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Buggered off as he couldn't handle the pressure. Strange that at the same time Baron Brian Paddick quit also. I couldn't give a flying f*** who is and who isn't gay but you don't go into politics with a closed mind and if your religion is going to cause any conflict whatsoever then you stand back. Dim Tim will now probably end up driving a bus in Preston while Paddick will still have a nice little niche in the House of Lords and the real losers will be the LimpDems.

10 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Thu Jun 15 2017, 18:57

gloswhite

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Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
how's this for a rumour ?

Tim Farron has resigned, not for religious reasons, but so that the LibDems can form a coalition with the Tories. He went as he was so implacably against any union.

I don't believe it myself, but nowadays, anything goes.

11 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Thu Jun 15 2017, 20:59

Fabians Right Peg

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Andy Walker
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gloswhite wrote:how's this for a rumour ?

Tim Farron has resigned, not for religious reasons, but so that the LibDems can form a coalition with the Tories. He went as he was so implacably against any union.

I don't believe it myself, but nowadays, anything goes.

Given the DUP only going for confidence and supply arrangement, no reason why the lib dems couldn't do similar in order to get concessions on what they want, perhaps that is why the tories are happy to go with a queens speech without the DUP being fully signed up to an agreement?

Would turn into a three sided poker game with the tories claiming not to be reliant on any one party and the Libs and DUP having to back each other in order to get any concessions.

Probably more stable in the long run though.



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12 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Thu Jun 15 2017, 21:13

wessy

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Andy Walker
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Fabians Right Peg wrote:
gloswhite wrote:how's this for a rumour ?

Tim Farron has resigned, not for religious reasons, but so that the LibDems can form a coalition with the Tories. He went as he was so implacably against any union.

I don't believe it myself, but nowadays, anything goes.

Given the UDP only going for confidence and supply arrangement, no reason why the lib dems couldn't do similar in order to get concessions on what they want, perhaps that is why the tories are happy to go with a queens speech without the UDP being fully signed up to an agreement?

Would turn into a three sided poker game with the tories claiming not to be reliant on any one party and the Libs and UDP having to back each other in order to get any concessions.

Probably more stable in the long run though.
Just for the record the reason the Lib Dem's where down to just 8 MP's was because they formed an unholy alliance with the Tories in 2010,

If they pull that stunt again they will be wiped out next time round, The Tories are not a natural fit for the Liberals, i can't see them being so stupid again

13 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Thu Jun 15 2017, 21:15

gloswhite

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Youri Djorkaeff
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There are lots of problems in such a set up, but at least the Tories would not only have a safer majority, but they could also claim to be including/representing more of the British public.
Who knows, maybe the delay in the talks with the DUP will mean the Lib Dems will be considered.
I still can't see it happening though.

14 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Fri Jun 16 2017, 08:34

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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I suspect it will be the Vince Cable show and he's a pragmatist

15 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Wed Jun 21 2017, 21:31

bwfc71

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Ivan Campo
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gloswhite wrote:how's this for a rumour ?

Tim Farron has resigned, not for religious reasons, but so that the LibDems can form a coalition with the Tories. He went as he was so implacably against any union.

I don't believe it myself, but nowadays, anything goes.

It can't happen.

If a Government is not formed within a time limit then another General Election is automatically called for.

As it is Tim will be leader for at least 2 more months, which takes it beyond the legal timeframe, until the leadership elections take place.

Furthermore, only a LibDem MP can put themselves forward to become leader.

As for the resignation itself, it is a strange one.  Yes he upped the number MP by 50% from 8, in last GE, to 12, he also upped the number of people that voted for the party (although the vote share was only fractionally down).  As for the homophobe slurs - that is definitely not the case as Tim has the best record for LGBT rights amongst any of the current leaders, if not all leaders past and present, and his interrogation of whether he agreed with gay-sex was abhorrent - especially as Theresa May, who is a vicars daughter, has the worst record for LGBT rights and even supports anti-LGBT groups, was never interrogated the same way.

What I have read into it is that the pressure of the press has got to him, and wants out to become just a normal MP.  He will still be part of the party and still an active MP, but without the burden of our highly intrusive and irresponsible media (especially certain right-wing foreign owned and non-UK tax based papers)  

Roll on Vince Cable - who had so many run-ins with Gideon Osborne and many of the Tories, and got his own way majority of time, under the coalition - he did fantastic for business, just image what else he can do for other parts of the Government.

16 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Wed Jun 21 2017, 21:33

bwfc71

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Ivan Campo
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Also in regards to any form of coalition, that would have to go to a members vote and I can confirm that no one in the Bolton group, nor its neighbouring groups, would ever vote for a coalition with the Tories.  The chances of LibDem forming another coalition with Tories is about as much chance of finding out that the moon is actually made of cheese!

17 Re: Tim Farron quits. on Wed Jun 21 2017, 22:38

gloswhite

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Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Fair enough, but can I come back later, and ask what flavour it is ?  Smile

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