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1 Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 05 2017, 13:46

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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Former Tory Prime Minister Ted Heath who gave us decimalisation, took the UK into the Common Market and refused to acknowledge his homosexuality throughout his career was also a paedophile if the claims against him are true.
Wiltshire Police say Heath is accused of raping an eleven year old boy.

The seven victim disclosures for which Sir Edward would have been interviewed under caution:


  • 1961, London: Sir Edward allegedly raped and indecently assaulted boy, 11, during a paid sexual encounter in private in a dwelling

  • 1962, Kent: Sir Edward allegedly indecently assaulted a ten year-old-boy during a chance encounter in a public place

  • 1964, Sussex and London: Sir Edward allegedly indecently assaulted a 15-year-old boy in three paid sexual encounters

  • 1967, Guernsey: Sir Edward allegedly indecently assaulted a 15-year-old boy in a public building

  • 1976, Jersey: Sir Edward allegedly indecently assaulted, over clothing, an adult male at a public event

  • 1992, Wiltshire: Sir Edward allegedly assaulted an adult male after consent was withdrawn in a hotel

  • Between 1990-1992, Wiltshire: Sir Edward allegedly indecently assaulted a male, aged between 12 and 14 years, in private gardens






He may be innocent but I personally doubt it given his widely reported "cruising" activities. When Heath was PM, the legal age for homosexual activity was 21 so it looks like the guy who presented himself as a paragon of society did not have much regard for the law, let alone for his victims.

2 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 05 2017, 15:42

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If you read the rest of the BBC article you will see that it is quite likely that these allegations are false. At least one of them includes allegations of satanic ritual abuse. The police publicly trawled for allegations and have already dismissed the majority of the allegations and are thinking of prosecuting several of the informants for wasting police time.

To me it looks far more like the police refusing to admit they are wrong and persisting in a witch hunt.

3 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 05 2017, 16:02

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Nat Lofthouse
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xmiles wrote:If you read the rest of the BBC article you will see that it is quite likely that these allegations are false. At least one of them includes allegations of satanic ritual abuse. The police publicly trawled for allegations and have already dismissed the majority of the allegations and are thinking of prosecuting several of the informants for wasting police time.

To me it looks far more like the police refusing to admit they are wrong and persisting in a witch hunt.
There were over 40 allegations, some from nutters and some from people who couldn't prove it. The seven listed above are the ones where the police deemed there was enough evidence to pursue further. I think it's quite likely they are true.

4 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 05 2017, 16:22

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wanderlust wrote:
xmiles wrote:If you read the rest of the BBC article you will see that it is quite likely that these allegations are false. At least one of them includes allegations of satanic ritual abuse. The police publicly trawled for allegations and have already dismissed the majority of the allegations and are thinking of prosecuting several of the informants for wasting police time.

To me it looks far more like the police refusing to admit they are wrong and persisting in a witch hunt.
There were over 40 allegations, some from nutters and some from people who couldn't prove it. The seven listed above are the ones where the police deemed there was enough evidence to pursue further. I think it's quite likely they are true.

Why do you believe they are true? If one or more is alleging satanic ritual abuse or is based on recovered memories those are obviously untrue. Where is the evidence? These are just the few allegations that are not demonstrably false.

5 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 05 2017, 20:41

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Youri Djorkaeff
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I don't agree with the way the police have handled this affair, especially as Ted Heath is unable to defend himself. However, i do believe the issues should have been raised.
I think I've said this before, but I remember many years ago, references to Heath and his liking for boys, often surfacing by way of jokes. Nothing was said officially then either, although there seemed to be a tacit agreement that that was his preference.

6 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 05 2017, 22:38

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I think the idea that Heath was a paedophile comes more from his obviously slightly odd manner than from anything he did. Back in those days people were a lot more uncomfortable with anyone not being clearly sexually "normal". He was probably asexual.

7 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 05 2017, 23:47

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I have no respect for the police in this country absolute twats, this is typical of their shite.

8 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Fri Oct 06 2017, 01:05

Bollotom2014

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Tony Kelly
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I agree, lets get rid of the police and let Trotters fans do the job.

9 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Fri Oct 06 2017, 14:05

wanderlust

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xmiles wrote:I think the idea that Heath was a paedophile comes more from his obviously slightly odd manner than from anything he did. Back in those days people were a lot more uncomfortable with anyone not being clearly sexually "normal". He was probably asexual.

Then why did he regularly pay for sex with men then?

One of the barmaids in my local claims to be "pansexual".

She actually laughed when I asked her what was so exciting about shagging catering equipment.

10 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Fri Oct 06 2017, 14:21

Cajunboy

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Tony Kelly
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A Sunday roast is popular in many locals.

11 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Fri Oct 06 2017, 14:29

xmiles

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Ivan Campo
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wanderlust wrote:
xmiles wrote:I think the idea that Heath was a paedophile comes more from his obviously slightly odd manner than from anything he did. Back in those days people were a lot more uncomfortable with anyone not being clearly sexually "normal". He was probably asexual.

Then why did he regularly pay for sex with men then?


And your evidence for this is what exactly? Were you one of those he paid?

12 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Fri Oct 06 2017, 16:09

Angry Dad

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Bastards are cowards they won't go in two inches of water to save a man who is having a fit and drowning but they will chase a dead man years later with what?? Fuck all bastards pc scum.

13 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Fri Oct 06 2017, 17:00

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Nat Lofthouse
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xmiles wrote:
wanderlust wrote:
xmiles wrote:I think the idea that Heath was a paedophile comes more from his obviously slightly odd manner than from anything he did. Back in those days people were a lot more uncomfortable with anyone not being clearly sexually "normal". He was probably asexual.

Then why did he regularly pay for sex with men then?


And your evidence for this is what exactly? Were you one of those he paid?
Amongst the 1500 + lines of enquiry were the interviews with his driver who confirmed he regularly took Heath to a private house where two of the victims claimed they had been sex workers. As the driver was interviewed without knowing what locations the victims had specified, they corroborated the story.

One of the investigators wrote:
“The same names used for him, the same places and same type of incidents keep coming up. What stands out is that the people giving these accounts are not connected but the stories and the details dovetail..”

14 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Sat Oct 07 2017, 08:25

xmiles

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Ivan Campo
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wanderlust wrote:
xmiles wrote:
wanderlust wrote:
xmiles wrote:I think the idea that Heath was a paedophile comes more from his obviously slightly odd manner than from anything he did. Back in those days people were a lot more uncomfortable with anyone not being clearly sexually "normal". He was probably asexual.

Then why did he regularly pay for sex with men then?


And your evidence for this is what exactly? Were you one of those he paid?
Amongst the 1500 + lines of enquiry were the interviews with his driver who confirmed he regularly took Heath to a private house where two of the victims claimed they had been sex workers. As the driver was interviewed without knowing what locations the victims had specified, they corroborated the story.

One of the investigators wrote:
“The same names used for him, the same places and same type of incidents keep coming up. What stands out is that the people giving these accounts are not connected but the stories and the details dovetail..”

Even if this is true that doesn't necessarily make him a paedophile. And I'm still worried by an investigation led by someone who is "120 per cent convinced the allegations are genuine".

15 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Sat Oct 07 2017, 09:04

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Nat Lofthouse
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Angry Dad wrote:Bastards are cowards they won't go in two inches of water to save a man who is having a fit and drowning but they will chase a dead man years later with what?? Fuck all bastards pc scum.

Two inches of water? Why didn't they just pick him up?

16 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Sat Oct 07 2017, 18:27

Reebok Trotter

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Nat Lofthouse
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Angry Dad wrote:Bastards are cowards they won't go in two inches of water to save a man who is having a fit and drowning but they will chase a dead man years later with what?? Fuck all bastards pc scum.

Ah yes....the scum. Are these the type of individuals which you allude to?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiPuoSig9_WAhXIDcAKHaTUCFgQFgg0MAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuk-england-lancashire-20916213&usg=AOvVaw1tdI4TpYBhWG1PjfTk_IcR

17 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Sat Oct 07 2017, 23:46

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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Reebok Trotter wrote:
Angry Dad wrote:Bastards are cowards they won't go in two inches of water to save a man who is having a fit and drowning but they will chase a dead man years later with what?? Fuck all bastards pc scum.

Ah yes....the scum. Are these the type of individuals which you allude to?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiPuoSig9_WAhXIDcAKHaTUCFgQFgg0MAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuk-england-lancashire-20916213&usg=AOvVaw1tdI4TpYBhWG1PjfTk_IcR
Tell it like it is RT.

18 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 12 2017, 00:19

Angry Dad

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Ivan Campo
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No RT they are not, you're a clever chap you can find the one you know I'm on about.

19 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 12 2017, 00:21

Angry Dad

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Ivan Campo
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Times have changed they won't go in the water now not even a few inches.

20 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 12 2017, 13:14

Reebok Trotter

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Nat Lofthouse
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If you are referring to the case in Greater Manchester a few years ago the accident took place in a deep quarry and the first attender on the scene was a PCSO ( mobile scarecrow ) who couldn't swim. At one time all sworn police officers had to learn to swim and those that couldn't were taught to swim when they attended a ten week training course at their regional training headquarters. The policy was scrapped years ago and there is no currently no longer a requirement for policemen and women to be able to swim. I blame cutbacks.

21 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 12 2017, 15:55

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Youri Djorkaeff
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True RT, but if someone was there that could swim, and was confident that they could make a difference, why should they be told not to, and risk losing a life ?

22 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 12 2017, 16:37

Angry Dad

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RT it was only a couple of years ago in a low pond only a few inches of water a guy was walking by it when he had a fit fell face down on the water and could not turn his head he was just fitting, a policeman stopped anybody from going to help him and said he was not trained or allowed to go in water it would have only been up to his ankles he radio'd in for the correct assistance the guy drowned before it got there. It made all the papers.

23 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 12 2017, 18:39

Reebok Trotter

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Nat Lofthouse
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gloswhite wrote:True RT, but if someone was there that could swim, and was confident that they could make a difference, why should they be told not to, and risk losing a life ?

I'm not sure of the case to which AD is referring but if someone was lying in water which was ankle deep then it stands to reason that anyone could have waded in and saved the person. I fail to see how a copper can order someone who can swim not to go into water to save someone who is drowning. I've got a bronze medallion so I'd tell him to f%*K off.

24 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 12 2017, 18:44

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wanderlust wrote:
xmiles wrote:If you read the rest of the BBC article you will see that it is quite likely that these allegations are false. At least one of them includes allegations of satanic ritual abuse. The police publicly trawled for allegations and have already dismissed the majority of the allegations and are thinking of prosecuting several of the informants for wasting police time.

To me it looks far more like the police refusing to admit they are wrong and persisting in a witch hunt.
There were over 40 allegations, some from nutters 

Come on then.....

Who on here played "Hide The Sausage" with Ted Heath in the 70's....?

Time for some group therapy.

We will get you through this.

25 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 12 2017, 18:46

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
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I wasn't involved. I only deal in veggie sausages anyway.

26 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 12 2017, 18:50

Bread2.0

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I knew it!

You're a veggie sausage dealer.....

Your sort disgust me, hanging round burger vans, pushing your filth on impressionable kids.

"Psst! Come here.....don't eat that burger, try this nut cutlet instead....you'll love it."

There was a lad in our class who got hooked by your lot.

Ruined his life.

He's an accountant now......ya bastard!

27 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 12 2017, 18:54

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
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I don't have to stand here and take this! (As I said to Sir Edward).

I'm going to the veggie police. No one is going to accuse me of creating an accountant!

28 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Thu Oct 12 2017, 23:57

Angry Dad

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Ivan Campo
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what about cliff yes or no?

29 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Fri Oct 13 2017, 00:10

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
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Yes.

Yes, cliffs do indeed exist.

There are loads of them all round the country. It's not some Muslim cover-up or something.

Generally near the sea and quite high up if you're looking for physical proof.

Next question.

30 Re: Sir Edward Heath Paedo ? on Fri Oct 13 2017, 00:22

Angry Dad

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Ivan Campo
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Mm
Bread2.0 wrote:Yes.

Yes, cliffs do indeed exist.

There are loads of them all round the country. It's not some Muslim cover-up or something.

Generally near the sea and quite high up if you're looking for physical proof.

Next question.
Ok what about Cliff yes or no?

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