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61 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 12:38

T.R.O.Y


Nicolas Anelka
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You don’t believe that Neil Warnock wants a target man who’s scoring goals at the moment?

62 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 12:41

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
T.R.O.Y wrote:You don’t believe that Neil Warnock wants a target man who’s scoring goals at the moment?

Not at the silly prices being quoted, no.

63 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 12:43

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
In today’s market, they aren’t that silly though to be fair - look how much Villa have splashed on average strikers in recent years it’s madness all you need is a few months scoring to be worth £10 million these days.

64 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 12:48

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Nat Lofthouse
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T.R.O.Y wrote:In today’s market, they aren’t that silly though to be fair - look how much Villa have splashed on average strikers in recent years it’s madness all you need is a few months scoring to be worth £10 million these days.
And the converse of that is that clubs have to pay a fortune for average talent which means that if we sold him there's no guarantee we'd get anyone better for the same money.

65 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 13:00

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Bolton rejects two improved bids from Cardiff for Gary Madine

THE transfer tug-of-war between Wanderers and Cardiff City over Gary Madine looks set to continue into the last 24 hours of the transfer window.
Two more bids have been made by the South Wales club, currently gunning for promotion from the Championship, but The Bolton News understands both have been rejected.
Wanderers chairman Ken Anderson has said only an “exceptional” offer would convince him to part with a key player like Madine in January.
Phil Parkinson said it would be “crazy” to sell his 10-goal top scorer and has said since the first day of the winter window the club’s aim is to emerge from January with a stronger squad.

Neil Warnock was unsuccessful with two bids earlier in the month, the highest of which is understood to have totalled £1.5million with bonuses.
The Bluebirds boss has been chasing Bournemouth’s Lewis Grabban and said he has lodged bids for as many as four different front men so far this month.
Madine signed a new deal with Wanderers in the summer, which runs to 2019. But interest from elsewhere has led the Whites to offer him an improved contract with a wage that better reflects his importance to the team. The deal remains unsigned - but sources at Bolton are hopeful it can be resolved quickly.

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66 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 13:03

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
I mean £1.5 million (if the report is true) is an insulting figure really, £6 million is more realistic - plenty of clubs would hold out for 8 figures.

67 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 13:22

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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With Nixon "suggesting" we have an interest in Kramer from Feyenoord perhaps Parky is covering the bases? Either that or the Walker deal isn't happening. Or Nixon just made it up.

68 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 15:10

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John McGinlay
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Agreed. I didnt rate him, but seems to be scoring more this season.

69 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 16:28

BoltonTillIDie

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John McGinlay
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From Nixon "Cardiff. Focus now totally on Madine. Fed up waiting on Grabban. And Bolton have the big dutchman lined up."

70 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 16:35

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
BoltonTillIDie wrote:And Bolton have the big dutchman lined up.

Chris Amos?

71 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 16:39

Boggersbelief

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Nat Lofthouse
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Very Happy

72 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 16:39

Boggersbelief

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Madine bid of £5.5M accepted. He’s going lads

73 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 16:55

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El Hadji Diouf
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Boggersbelief wrote:Madine bid of £5.5M accepted. He’s going lads
Very Happy ..dunno..

74 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 19:22

Sluffy

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COMMENT: Selling Madine would be Wanderers' greatest gamble

IF Wanderers are seriously entertaining the thought of selling top scorer Gary Madine with barely a day remaining in the transfer window, it is hard to imagine a bigger gamble they could take.
Cardiff City are refusing to take no for an answer in their chase for the 27-year-old target man, and the Bolton hierarchy are now bracing themselves for a fifth bid from the promotion-chasing Bluebirds.
Whether that offer is “exceptional” in the eyes of Wanderers chairman Ken Anderson remains to be seen.

Were this tug-of-war contest happening in the first week of the transfer window there would be ample time for Phil Parkinson to make provisions for Madine’s departure. But with just one full day remaining to do business, to use the manager’s own terminology is would be “crazy” to let him leave.
Madine has become integral to the gritty – if functional – style that has enabled Parkinson’s side to scrap their way out of the bottom three and recover from a terrible start.
He has reinvented himself in the eyes of Bolton fans, reached double figures two years running, and looks in the shape of his career.
By all accounts from Lostock the striker is not pushing for a move, even though it would most likely be in his financial interest. Talks to extend and improve his current contract have rumbled on for the last week or so, and rumours of serious discord between the player and the club appear to be very wide of the mark.
If Madine could continue his form to the end of this season, pushing his goal return to 15, even 20, he could be demanding some serious money in the summer.

If Crystal Palace have bid £8million for Jordan Hugill – a player of comparable quality in this writer’s eyes – then that is the sort of price which could be on his head with a good year in the Championship and good will at his club.
What price destabilising the squad at this late juncture in the window? Furthermore, what position would Parkinson find himself in, having scotched the very idea of selling his striker at every available opportunity?

Supporters rejoiced at the idea of bringing Chung-Yong Lee back on loan from Crystal Palace, a deal which seemed a real step forward in Wanderers’ survival effort. Quite how the sale of their striking talisman would be viewed, you can only imagine. I only hope we do not find out.

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75 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 19:39

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El Hadji Diouf
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Natasha Whittam wrote:I just don't believe anyone wants Madine that badly, especially a team near the top.

He's had a purple patch of late, but before that he was pretty average.

You're being too gracious here Nat- before this purple patch he was well below average. If Cardiff come back with another bid north of £3m I would take it.

76 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 19:48

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
£3 million rammy? Come on, he must be worth more than that in today’s market.

77 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 19:59

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El Hadji Diouf
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T.R.O.Y wrote:£3 million rammy? Come on, he must be worth more than that in today’s market.

...but I'll bet that's the sort of money that Cardiff will be offering. He isn't that good in reality. Think back to some of our 'better ' strikers over the last few years- McGinlay, Kevin Davies,Klasnic! He's simply not in the same league. He's a lucky journeyman. He's poor in the air and has no first touch and can't dribble. All he does is work hard.
If he goes to Cardiff he'll be firstly a benchwarmer and then a nonentity I thought that Warnock had more sense

78 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 20:10

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
I can understand GM's desire to leave - he must know he's had a pretty shitty career, so why not make the most of this hot streak before things go back to normal?

At his age, doubling your money must be the most attractive move. He'd be stupid not to try and engineer a move.

79 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 20:28

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Nicolas Anelka
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rammywhite wrote:
T.R.O.Y wrote:£3 million rammy? Come on, he must be worth more than that in today’s market.

...but I'll bet that's the sort of money that Cardiff will be offering. He isn't that good in reality. Think back to some of our 'better ' strikers over the last few years- McGinlay, Kevin Davies,Klasnic! He's simply not in the same league. He's a lucky journeyman. He's poor in the air and has no first touch and can't dribble. All he does is work hard.
If he goes to Cardiff he'll be firstly a benchwarmer and then a nonentity I thought that Warnock had more sense

Don’t disagree with you, but the last thing we need to do is consider the reality! 

Let’s at least milk Cardiff, by pretending he’s world class and worth £12 million. That’s what other teams manage to do with goal scorers.

80 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 21:07

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Kane57 wrote:I can understand GM's desire to leave - he must know he's had a pretty shitty career, so why not make the most of this hot streak before things go back to normal?

At his age, doubling your money must be the most attractive move. He'd be stupid not to try and engineer a move.

I think everybody accepts that reasoning - that is how football is these days anyway.

If he goes fair play to him, he's turned his form around since he stopped drinking.

Whether he keeps it up and does even better for himself is up to him.

Maybe there is a line of thinking that he might even do better for himself staying with us until the summer window (with his new pay increase), as the team is set up to 'feed' him with goal opportunities (he's taking the free-kicks as well as being the big striker) - and become one of those 20 goal a season striker club owners like to have in their teams - whereas at Cardiff his opportunity certainly won't be quite the same.

I guess at the end of the day it comes down to how badly Anderson wants the money to sell and/or Mardine wants the money to go.

81 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 21:31

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Think you've answered your own question with that last sentence.

82 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 22:07

Sluffy

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Peter O'Rourke (who states that he's a sports journalist - he does have 82,000 followers so it's probably true) has tweeted this about 30 minutes ago -

Cardiff have agreed a deal with Bolton for striker Gary Madine.



If true then I guess its down to personal terms and if Madine wants to go.



83 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 22:14

Kane57

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Nicolas Anelka
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He's been offered £15k a week - more than double his current pay. If a deal has been agreed then it's when, not if.

84 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 22:52

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Nat Lofthouse
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So...
if we don't get the Dutch guy it'll be Wilbraham leading the line?


Exciting!

85 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Tue Jan 30 2018, 23:29

Sluffy

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For what it is worth - the bloke who tweeted a done deal (Pete O'Rourke) has just done another tweet and linked it to this article -

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Now the article is from HITC which without doubt is the greatest publisher of fake transfer stories out there in my opinion - for instance it claims in the link that the deal is worth up to £6 million to us!

IF and I do mean IF - the only source to Madine's transfer is traced back to the HITC article then I would say the story is just hearsay.

That's not to say it won't happen but both clubs, Nixon, Iles and Cardiff's local paper haven't reported this as a done deal - so I simply don't believe HITC are more in the know than all of them.

86 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Wed Jan 31 2018, 05:31

Kane57

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
They're one of those news aggregator sites, somall it takes is one person to write about it and they'll pick it up. I'd take it with one of that Leeds Wanderers lad's pinches of salt

87 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Wed Jan 31 2018, 08:44

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David Lee
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£2.5 million rising to £6 million if Cardiff win the Champions League isn't enough money to accept relegation for.
Getting relegated, accepting the £3.5 million loss in TV revenue, still not having a pot to piss in,praying Cardiff get promoted more than we stay up and having a pool of crap strikers isn't good business.

88 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Wed Jan 31 2018, 09:50

Leeds_Trotter


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Kane57 wrote:They're one of those news aggregator sites, somall it takes is one person to write about it and they'll pick it up. I'd take it with one of that Leeds Wanderers lad's pinches of salt
Keep your grubby little hands off my salt.

89 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Wed Jan 31 2018, 10:21

Sluffy

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Very Happy


Anyway a tweet from Iles about 20 minutes ago -

It is understood NO deal yet done on Gary Madine.

90 Re: OFFICIAL - Gary Madine gone. on Wed Jan 31 2018, 10:25

Boggersbelief

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Nat Lofthouse
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I confirmed the madine to Cardiff deal yesterday. It’s done.

Possible replacements include the Feyenoord lad and Gerard Moreno

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