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1 Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 16:30

Cajunboy

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
It's time to replace the old boiler. ( please no Nat references)

Any advice would be appreciated.

Vaillant or Worcester Bosch or any other.

As anyone used British Gas for fitting and do you have a service contract with them?  I imagine they'll be more expensive than a local small firm. I have a good local service guy but he is 67 and close to retirement.

2 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 16:32

Norpig

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Nat Lofthouse
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we got a Worcester one about 12 months ago and it's great and had no issues with it at all. Costs a bit more than others but worth it in my opinion.

I do have the British Gas homecare agreement and it covers everything gas wise and even electrics and internal plumbing. They give your boiler a service annually as well. Needed it more with the old boiler as that was old and had a few issues but can't fault them even if it may be a bit expensive.

3 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 16:37

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
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I have an ideal Vogue 32 and came with a promotional ten year warranty. An extra 3 years when registering it in a certain time.

It was recommended by my personal gas fitter mate who has just fitted one himself after his boiler has bust.

Although recommending this brand, I would get any with a long warranty for piece of mind. The warranty conditions on any boiler are that they are serviced every 12months.

4 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 16:40

Cajunboy

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Andy Walker
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@Norpig wrote:we got a Worcester one about 12 months ago and it's great and had no issues with it at all. Costs a bit more than others but worth it in my opinion.

I do have the British Gas homecare agreement and it covers everything gas wise and even electrics and internal plumbing. They give your boiler a service annually as well. Needed it more with the old boiler as that was old and had a few issues but can't fault them even if it may be a bit expensive.
Was your boiler fitted by British gas?

5 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 16:41

Cajunboy

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Andy Walker
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@karlypants wrote:I have an ideal Vogue 32 and came with a promotional ten year warranty. An extra 3 years when registering it in a certain time.

It was recommended by my personal gas fitter mate who has just fitted one himself after his boiler has bust.

Although recommending this brand, I would get any with a long warranty for piece of mind. The warranty conditions on any boiler are that they are serviced every 12months.
Thanks.

6 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 16:42

Norpig

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Nat Lofthouse
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no it wasn't British Gas who fitted it, it was a plumber we'd used before. I've heard that BG can be pricey if fitting a new boiler

7 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 16:43

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
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BG are a rip-off and must be avoided!

8 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 16:57

Cajunboy

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Andy Walker
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@karlypants wrote:BG are a rip-off and must be avoided!
Yes, I assumed they would be, I was just after other people's experiences.

I'll probably get a quote from them just to see how much dearer they are than  the local guys.

10 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 17:19

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Frank Worthington
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We put a new Worcester Bosch in a couple of years ago and its been excellent. We had our local plumber fit it and he services it once a year for £40. BG rates are a rip off. Buy it yourself - some good deals on line and get your local lad/lass to put it in for you.

12 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 17:35

Cajunboy

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Andy Walker
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@rammywhite wrote:We put a new Worcester Bosch in a couple of years ago and its been excellent. We had our local plumber fit it and he services it once a year for £40. BG rates are a rip off. Buy it yourself - some good deals on line and get your local lad/lass to put it in for you.
Thanks, interesting to hear from you.

13 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 18:06

xmiles

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Ivan Campo
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Also a Worcester Bosch fitted by a local plumber last year. We chose Worcester Bosch because it scores very high on reliability and plumbers we spoke to recommended it.

14 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 18:36

Soul Kitchen

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Ivan Campo
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@karlypants wrote:BG are a rip-off and must be avoided!
+1
Twice the price. PM me I'll give u a number to ring.

15 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Wed Feb 14 2018, 18:37

Soul Kitchen

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Ivan Campo
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I have a Worcester btw. Top drawer.

16 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Thu Feb 15 2018, 12:01

gloswhite

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Jay Jay Okocha
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I have a Viessman, which, apparently, is a very good make. I've had it over a year, and it seems to be fine.

17 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Thu Feb 15 2018, 14:03

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Nat Lofthouse
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Any gas installation has to be commissioned by a GasSafe registered engineer - and by commissioning I mean check the connections/make the final connection. A lot of plumbers aren't registered with GS (formerly CORGI) so they do the work and then call in a registered plumber to commission it - and this is where additional cost can be accrued. Bloke in my village doesn't do any actual plumbing - he just drives around commissioning other plumbers work and collecting £100 a pop. Maybe that's why he has a  Ferrari in his garage? Whoever you use, make sure they're GS registered themselves.

As for Brit Gas, they have a standard call out charge and are very pricey. I stopped using them years ago before I knew about thermocouplings. Brit Gas charged me £7 for the coupling (they cost around a fiver in the shops) plus £75 call out charge. Bloke kindly offered not to charge me for labour which would have been around 30 seconds worth which is the time it takes to fit a new thermocoupling. I know better now.

18 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Thu Feb 15 2018, 18:37

Cajunboy

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Andy Walker
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Thanks for that Lusty.

I'm well aware of the need to use a  GasSafe registered plumber, but thanks for pointing it out to me . I've heard quite a few tales about plumbers getting around the exams you need to pass to be registered,  by giving somebody a backhander to get the work signed off.

19 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Fri Feb 16 2018, 15:18

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Nat Lofthouse
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@Cajunboy wrote:Thanks for that Lusty.

I'm well aware of the need to use a  GasSafe registered plumber, but thanks for pointing it out to me . I've heard quite a few tales about plumbers getting around the exams you need to pass to be registered,  by giving somebody a backhander to get the work signed off.
Back in the days when CORGI were running the national accreditation scheme I sat on a committee that brought together the manufacturers and relevant installer trade associations to get an overview of what was happening across the country. Turned out there were more than double the number of boilers sold in the UK than the number of CORGI certificates handed out - which meant that approximately half the boilers installed had been done so by unaccredited plumbers. That was the beginning of the end for CORGI and it wasn't long before the accreditation scheme was handed over to the dreaded Capita to run. After much TUPE - ing and cost cutting the end result was pretty much the same as it had been previously with deaths from carbon monoxide poisoning from badly installed boilers still running at about 40 a year and around 260 survived poisonings per annum.
Prosecutions seldom happen. It's a f****** joke.

20 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Sat Feb 17 2018, 10:20

gloswhite

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Jay Jay Okocha
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Glad I had my new one installed in the loft.

21 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Sat Feb 17 2018, 16:06

Cajunboy

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Andy Walker
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@gloswhite wrote:Glad I had my new one installed in the loft.
I've wondered about installing it  in the loft, but I don't like the idea of not being able to see it.

22 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Sat Feb 17 2018, 16:56

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Nat Lofthouse
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@Cajunboy wrote:
@gloswhite wrote:Glad I had my new one installed in the loft.
I've wondered about installing it  in the loft, but I don't like the idea of not being able to see it.
I'm with you. Some of these boilers are pretty shifty. Need to be watched.

23 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Sat Feb 17 2018, 17:01

Cajunboy

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker

24 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Sat Feb 17 2018, 17:03

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
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Is that Nat?

25 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Sat Feb 17 2018, 17:14

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
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Yes. Very Happy

26 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Sat Feb 17 2018, 17:20

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
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@karlypants wrote:Yes. Very Happy
No wonder they plastered over the glory hole.

27 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Sat Feb 17 2018, 17:22

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:
@karlypants wrote:Yes. Very Happy
No wonder they plastered over the glory hole.
:rofl:

28 Re: Combination Boiler??? on Sat Feb 17 2018, 18:37

gloswhite

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Jay Jay Okocha
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@Cajunboy wrote:
@gloswhite wrote:Glad I had my new one installed in the loft.
I've wondered about installing it  in the loft, but I don't like the idea of not being able to see it.
At least it won't gas me. (might blow the house up though)  Smile 

Its worked out fine, When I'm in the kitchen, I'm aware of when it starts up, and I use my iPhone to start/stop/program it. much better location, and seeing that its not me that has to clamber up the ladder to service it, it makes it even better.

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