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Next Season - Assuming we are in the Championship again.

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Who do we keep?  Who do we dispense of?  Who do we try and get?

KA says contract negotiations are ongoing now.

Sluffy

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Who do we keep?  Who do we dispense of?  Who do we try and get?

KA says contract negotiations are ongoing now.

It will all depend on which division we are in.

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
And who owns us.

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Who do we keep?  Who do we dispense of?  Who do we try and get?

KA says contract negotiations are ongoing now.

It will all depend on which division we are in.
It dropped the subtitle... "Assuming we are in the Championship again."

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I'd keep none of them. Has anyone really stepped up this season?

MartinBWFC

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Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
Buckley, Beevers, C Taylor, Pratley, Wilbraham, Darby can all go for me, Ameobi will probably find a new club, Wheater should be kept as should the younger players Hall, Lonsdale, Earing, King and Turner.

Sluffy

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Who do we keep?  Who do we dispense of?  Who do we try and get?

KA says contract negotiations are ongoing now.

It will all depend on which division we are in.
It dropped the subtitle... "Assuming we are in the Championship again."


Ahh, I understand now - I've amended the thread title anyway.

The sub title does work if you search via 'board' (Bolton Wanderers Banter, Wandering Minds, etc) but I always search via the 'View posts since last visit' link - which doesn't show them.

I do think we will strengthen when we stay up - we have to really and Anderson has managed the expenditure down to create a bit of wriggle room to do so now.

I don't believe these story's that club as already been sold (to the Bet Fred owner) so I reckon that the Anderson's and Parkinson have probably already identified whatever targets they want and that we will release any of our players currently in them.

I suspect Henry and Wilbraham will be released - particularly if we sign Kirchhoff and a new target man (would people want Madine back on loan as he's done nothing at Cardiff since he went?).

Pratley and Dervite will certainly not be offered the contract they have been on but I wouldn't mind if they resigned for another season.

I'm sure there will be much more discussion on this in a month or so time when things become much clearer.

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Disagree with you about Henry, I think he'll get another year partly because he's shown himself to be fit enough and partly because I'd wager he's great in the dressing room for a struggling side.

Sluffy

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Buckley, Beevers, C Taylor, Pratley, Wilbraham, Darby can all go for me, Ameobi will probably find a new club, Wheater should be kept as should the younger players Hall, Lonsdale, Earing, King and Turner.

Buckley, Darby and Turner are all under contract for next season already.

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Yeah, I'd probably keep Henry thinking about it. But no one else jumps out as someone who must be kept at all costs. Alnwick has been pretty decent the last few months to be fair, so maybe he should stay.

But Ameobi is hit and miss (mainly miss), the defence too old and slow, midfield lacks any quality on the ball, and the attack couldn't hit Martin's arse from a yard away.

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Andy Walker
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Yeah, I'd probably keep Henry thinking about it. But no one else jumps out as someone who must be kept at all costs. Alnwick has been pretty decent the last few months to be fair, so maybe he should stay.

But Ameobi is hit and miss (mainly miss), the defence too old and slow, midfield lacks any quality on the ball, and the attack couldn't hit Martin's arse from a yard away.
Nat - you have the ability to be a reality show producer... "Hit Martin's arse!" I can see it now... we line up our strikers... and of course, 75% sky the ball over him.  Truly riveting television.  Congratulations!

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:75% sky the ball over him. 

75%? You're too generous.

Despite Martin's massive arse, it'd be nearer 100%.

Sluffy

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Disagree with you about Henry, I think he'll get another year partly because he's shown himself to be fit enough and partly because I'd wager he's great in the dressing room for a struggling side.

You might well be right but my thinking was that Kirchhoff could well replace him if he were to sign permanently.

Fwiw I would vote Henry as our most valuable player of our season as his signing plugged the huge defensive midfield gap we had and with his knowledge (and players alongside him like Pratley doing the running for him) completely turned our whole season around from certain relegation (just 2 points in our first ten games) to all but Championship safety.

I expect Wilbraham to be offered a backroom post in the club if we have one spare as he turned down the opportunity of one at Bristol City to come here and I guess that was part of his package to sign for us. He certainly seems well respect inside the club and the players seemed delighted for him scoring as much as what it meant points wise in the game itself.

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Kirchhoff won't replace anyone, way too injury prone to do that.

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Kirchhoff won't replace anyone, way too injury prone to do that.

Yes think it would be a massive gamble to ditch Henry and hope Kirschoff can hack it for a full season.

Leeds_Trotter

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Does anyone have a list of players who are out of contract come end of the season?

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Does anyone have a list of players who are out of contract come end of the season?

Ben Amos.

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Andy Walker
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Does anyone have a list of players who are out of contract come end of the season?

Ben Amos.
Thought Amos had one year remaining... and that Pratley was up with the 18k per week!

Sluffy

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Fooking hell, we are screwed.

Amos, Buckley, Noone & Darby for another season after this one. Which fuckwit agreed to those contracts?

wessy

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
You all missed Osede a banker to go.

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Andy Walker
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Fooking hell, we are screwed.

Amos, Buckley, Noone & Darby for another season after this one. Which fuckwit agreed to those contracts?
I guess we need a thread to name the worst deals in the past 10 years and who was responsible for those deals.  Should be interesting reading.

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I doubt there'll be money to spend seeing as Ken had to sell Madine to have a chance of breaking even this year, so unless we cash in something else to generate funds or get a new owner I can't see where the dosh would come from other than Championship income.

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
We have to get Amos off the books for one. he's still on massive money. I would maybe resign Pratley if he was willing to reduce his wages so something more realistic and manageable.
Let Howard go as well and let Turner step up as no2 keeper. Dervite, Taylor (at long last) and Karacan will probably go as well. If you take all those out and the loans we won't have much left.

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Fooking hell, we are screwed.

Amos, Buckley, Noone & Darby for another season after this one. Which fuckwit agreed to those contracts?
I guess we need a thread to name the worst deals in the past 10 years and who was responsible for those deals.  Should be interesting reading.
The unfortunate thing is that most of the players contracted until 2019 aren't playing regularly and in many cases probably aren't up to Championship standard. Not even sure they would form the basis of a team that would get us back out of League 1 if we go down.
If the club is still a way off breaking even without further sales of assets it looks like most of the wheeling and dealing in the summer will be trying to retain the players we want to keep and hoping we can dump some of the dead weight in order to bring in more loanees and freebies.
That scenario underlines the importance of staying up because although we would be facing another season of survival struggle at least we'd have a better chance of finding a buyer that would meet Anderson's (stringent) criteria which may in turn open the door to some proper investment in the team if the new owners had any ambition.

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Andy Walker
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Fooking hell, we are screwed.

Amos, Buckley, Noone & Darby for another season after this one. Which fuckwit agreed to those contracts?
Lennon for the first and Parky for the last three.

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
MUST KEEP - Ameobi, Alnwick.
1 YEAR EXTENSION - Henry & hopefully Kirchoff.
RELEASE/SELL - Pratley, Wilbraham, Taylor
BUY - Goalscorer/Targetman, Central Defender, two wingers

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Hopefully some foolish club will pay money for Ameobi, I'd like to see him line up against us next season.

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:MUST KEEP - Ameobi, Alnwick.
1 YEAR EXTENSION - Henry & hopefully Kirchoff.
RELEASE/SELL - Pratley, Wilbraham, Taylor
BUY - Goalscorer/Targetman, Central Defender, two wingers

Yep bang on.

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
We've somehow pulled together a squad of rejects, journeymen and loanees that may just about survive in the Championship this year, all within a transfer embargo and without any investment from the owner. 
Some have been successful enough to hold down a place in the team but, as alluded to above, for the most part they aren't what we'd really like.
That said, if we don't get some serious financial backing, we'll be fishing in the same pond again and maybe, just maybe, this lot are the best we can hope for in the current situation which begs the question who we might get to replace the ones we let go? Perhaps we've already got the best players available within our budget?

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