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31 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Wed Jul 11 2018, 16:34

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For all the naysayers on here... without Ken's contributions, we would be in administration and probably in League Two.  The guy saved the club, and is entitled to make some money each year and whatever when he sells on.  He has been highly communicative throughout his tenure, and has gone dark here... which says someone or all the players pissed him off. Time will tell and hopefully they come to an agreement soon, get some new players in, and start winning some games.  The bottom line is to get off the bottom of the table... and we can all agree with that.  Just saying, better to be in this position, than in League Two right now... and climbing out of League One in one season and maintaining the Championship status on the last day are still fresh in my mind.  What Ken makes is his business.  How he deals with the players becomes fodder for the press... and there may be many sides to what really happened.  Who knows?  Just be happy we are still up.  The euphoria from the last ten minutes of our last game should still be in your bloodstream!  Who would have ever thought we would come back with two goals and we would leapfrog over two teams that fine May day?

32 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Wed Jul 11 2018, 16:41

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Nat Lofthouse
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I've had no problem with KA up till now, but he's not covered himself in glory with this has he? This should all have been handled behind closed doors.
Both sides need to step back and see how this looks to us fans and to the football world in general. I was hoping we would be past all this robbing Peter to pay Paul stuff by now, i just hope we can still recruit decent players after all this bad publicity.

33 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Wed Jul 11 2018, 16:43

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I've had no problem with KA up till now, but he's not covered himself in glory with this has he? This should all have been handled behind closed doors.
Both sides need to step back and see how this looks to us fans and to the football world in general. I was hoping we would be past all this robbing Peter to pay Paul stuff by now, i just hope we can still recruit decent players after all this bad publicity.
Totally and unequivocally correct!  Hence, something or someone got to him and he is taking a hard stance.

34 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Thu Jul 12 2018, 12:18

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Andy Walker
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I've had no problem with KA up till now, but he's not covered himself in glory with this has he? This should all have been handled behind closed doors.
Both sides need to step back and see how this looks to us fans and to the football world in general. I was hoping we would be past all this robbing Peter to pay Paul stuff by now, i just hope we can still recruit decent players after all this bad publicity.
One unsubstantiated conjecture... perhaps KA found more debt that he had to pay off.  He alluded to DeanO leaving the club with hard debt that he had not anticipated.  At the same time, both sides should have settled this behind the scenes.  I hope this scenario of hidden debt is just a hypotheses and not true... but the past two years have proven anything but firm ground economically for the club.  KA's approach to running the club as a break even is an admirable and smart one.  I hope this can be worked out quickly and the club move on to the season.

35 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Thu Jul 12 2018, 13:19

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Nat Lofthouse
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None of this speculation changes the fact that Anderson shafted the players and then brought the club into disrepute by choosing the public domain to attempt to shift blame and demonise the players.
He didn't honour the player's contracts and he used the media to divert attention are the only facts we know so speculating about "possible reasons why Anderson might be the injured party" is neither helpful nor realistic.

36 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Thu Jul 12 2018, 13:35

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:None of this speculation changes the fact that Anderson shafted the players and then brought the club into disrepute by choosing the public domain to attempt to shift blame and demonise the players.
He didn't honour the player's contracts and he used the media to divert attention are the only facts we know so speculating about "possible reasons why Anderson might be the injured party" is neither helpful nor realistic.

I was always taught that two wrongs never make a right.

Anderson pissed off the players by not paying them on time - although we all know they will ultimately get their money.

In return the players pissed Anderson off by going on strike - however by doing so it may well have fucked our whole season if their unofficial strike action has resulted in player transfer sanctions by the EFL or putting potential new signings (or their agents) off doing business with us in the next three weeks before the transfer window closes - whilst all this could easily have been averted by going through the correct procedures of mediation and grievance behind closed doors as it should have been.

I know which by far is the greater of the two wrongs.

37 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Thu Jul 12 2018, 15:42

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Nicky Hunt
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The thing despite some on here, and other fans replying to Marc Iles, Mr Anderson doesn't think he is in the wrong.

We only have some knowledge of the way Ken is thinking and we still don't know all the details.

If it's all Ken's fault as many on here assume, then he's cutting off his nose to spite his face.

Why would Ken put the club through more restrictions and limit the kind of player the club can get hold of, if it's only about not paying bonuses.  Why argue it out?

If he hasn't got the money to fund the wages then why draw attention to that fact?

There really does have to be some other explanation of why he won't pay the players bonuses and why he'd make matters worse for the club.

38 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Thu Jul 12 2018, 15:58

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:The thing despite some on here, and other fans replying to Marc Iles, Mr Anderson doesn't think he is in the wrong.

We only have some knowledge of the way Ken is thinking and we still don't know all the details.

If it's all Ken's fault as many on here assume, then he's cutting off his nose to spite his face.

Why would Ken put the club through more restrictions and limit the kind of player the club can get hold of, if it's only about not paying bonuses.  Why argue it out?

If he hasn't got the money to fund the wages then why draw attention to that fact?

There really does have to be some other explanation of why won't pay the players bonuses and why he'd make matters worse for the club.
Without having specific knowledge of the contract, we can't say who is right or wrong.  Ken may have some leeway if there is a codicil in the contracts.  If not, then you are correct... he is creating a situation of cutting off his nose to spite his face.  It certainly won't help our progress on the pitch.  It most definitely will attract a financial inquiry and possible financial restraint from the League.  He has most certainly lost the clubhouse (as others have pointed out).  He most probably has alienated talent from joining the club (unless they have no place to go besides taking a flyer with us).  There is no rational explanation for this... and there is no reason this should not have taken place behind closed doors and out of our scrutiny.  The silence now is deafening.  Let's conclude this business and try to stay in the championship.

39 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 11:17

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Nicky Hunt
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Ken, in his latest blog says he's meeting with the PFA next week.

Doesn't seem unduly troubled.

Think Sluffy will publish the link.

40 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 11:27

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Ken, in his latest blog says he's meeting with the PFA next week.

Doesn't seem unduly troubled.

Think Sluffy will publish the link.

Ken has tried hard these past two years to establish a rapport with the fans... answering the questions his predecessor failed to reply to.  There will need to be bridge building to regain the trust of both the players and the fans.  Ken is too smart to have done this without someone sticking a thorn in his side... and my conjecture is Amos's agent being the needle.  The only fact we know is that Ken saved the club from an immediate winding up and he and Parky have worked on a budget these past two years, which have seen us rise from the ashes like the Phoenix, and somehow save our season with two goals in the final ten minutes of our last game.  Though his past behaviour has been admonished and punished, it is our obligation to be thankful that we still have a club.  Saying that, he must play by the rules and now re-establish a trust with all of us.  Sadly, our emotions get the better of most of us when we are let down by someone or rather, stuck with that thorn. I trust this bad behaviour has been caused by that thorn... and shocked that the senior players did not step in to alleviate and negotiate the situation to a more favourable solution.  Our season depends on these players and the ability to afford new blood.  This incident jeopardizes both.

41 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 11:34

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Nicky Hunt
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I suppose it's not as black and white this as it's portrayed. I suspect the players got paid some bonus, but not all of it. Similarly, I suspect Amos got some of his wages but not all he was expecting.

That way players could say "they hadn't been paid"

42 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 11:35

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Nat Lofthouse
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Tonight and tomorrow will see us welcome in the region of 60,000 visitors for The Killers and Little Mix shows and as chairman, I am very proud that major events such as these have returned to Macron Stadium after a long absence.

This has been a monumental effort by all the staff of BWFC and Bolton Whites Hotel and I am sure you will join me in expressing our sincere gratitude to them for all their hard work and long hours to ensure a smooth and successful operation.

You only need to see the stadium as it currently looks to see the transformation. I’m sure there will be plenty of imagery available over the course of the weekend.

The amount of work that has gone behind the scenes has been truly remarkable. We’ve had to liaise closely with the concert promoters, the local council, transport and traffic agencies, coach and bus companies as well as many other bodies.

Alongside their regular duties, our staff have gone above and beyond the call of duty to put our venue back on the map as a major event venue.

This will augur well for the future and enable us to drive our revenue streams to ultimately benefit the football club.

I know that many of you will be attending these concerts with your friends and family and I hope that you all have a great time.

Regarding football matters, I would like to welcome Pawel Olkowski, who joined us a couple of days ago.

He has a tremendous pedigree and is a Poland international, and we are delighted to have him in the squad for the coming season.

We are also talking to several more players at the moment and we hope to be in a position to announce some new signings next week.

Finally, I know I said I wouldn’t be making a comment on this matter, but in a bid to quell the speculation in the media and social media, I would like let you all know that I have a meeting with the PFA scheduled for next week.

I will of course update you once I have had the meeting.

Kind regards,

Ken

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43 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 11:42

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
People saying on social media that parking is £20, surely that can't be true.

44 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 11:47

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Nat Lofthouse
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Yes it is.

45 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 11:49

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Christ!

46 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 11:49

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Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:People saying on social media that parking is £20, surely that can't be true.

I'm sure it'll be worth it LT, you don't want to miss the chance of throwing your y-fronts at Little Mix do you.

47 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 11:55

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:People saying on social media that parking is £20, surely that can't be true.

I'm sure it'll be worth it LT, you don't want to miss the chance of throwing your y-fronts at Little Mix do you.

The blonde one is alright, the rest are not for me.

48 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 11:58

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Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:The blonde one is alright, the rest are not for me.

They're going to be gutted by that revelation.

49 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 12:05

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:The blonde one is alright, the rest are not for me.

They're going to be gutted by that revelation.

Don't blame em, I'm a good catch.

50 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 12:09

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Do we still own the car park?

51 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 12:16

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Don't think we do.

52 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 12:55

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If people will pay it, then whoever owns the car park (Prescott?) will charge it.  You can also park at the local school, my old secondary, St Joseph's for £5 as long as you dont mind the walk.  I'm guessing a lot of people will just park in Asda's car park.



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53 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Fri Jul 13 2018, 13:35

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Tweet from Iles just now - PFA have confirmed a meeting will be held with #BWFC chairman Ken Anderson next week. Representatives from the squad and coaching staff will also be present.

Linking in with his earlier tweet of 3 hours ago - Ken Anderson will meet with the @PFA next week. Hopefully that's a positive sign of progress. #bwfc

54 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sat Jul 14 2018, 18:11

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Nicky Hunt
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From the video after the Halifax match, Parky looks really down. Really pissed of with the shenanigans. Who can blame him?

55 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sat Jul 14 2018, 19:09

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:From the video after the Halifax match, Parky looks really down. Really pissed of with the shenanigans. Who can blame him?
Has he ever looked happy?

56 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sat Jul 14 2018, 19:16

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Nicky Hunt
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Never looked happy, but, seemed worse than usual.

57 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sat Jul 14 2018, 19:48

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58 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Tue Jul 17 2018, 18:42

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As I’ve mentioned on previous occasions, I will always endeavour to be open and transparent and to keep you updated on matters concerning the club.
A meeting has today taken place between the PFA and the football club and I’m pleased to say that an agreement has been reached with all parties.
We are still very active in the transfer market and are looking to bring in several new faces before the season kicks off. It would be inappropriate for me to mention any names until the deals are done but what I can tell you is that we’ve put in a six-figure bid for a striker and are talking to a number of other players. As was expected, everything is taking longer this year because of the World Cup, but we hope to be able to announce further signings shortly.
Again, once deals have been confirmed they will be announced officially on the club’s channels.
I would also like to keep you updated on matters concerning investment into the club. I want to make it clear that we have never proactively approached any party or sought to sell the club.
However, not surprisingly we are regularly being approached by third parties interested in investing or buying the club. As I have previously stated, I will of course only entertain any serious bids that will ensure the long-term future and stability of the club.
Recently, we had long and detailed discussions with a Middle East-based group who showed a keen interest in the club. However, they ultimately decided to buy a club in the Middle East.
Another locally based person, who had previously made an offer, once again showed a keen interest. However, when he supplied us his proof of funds, the documentation used was found to be fake and no further discussions will take place with this particular person or his professional advisors.
An Asian-based consortium have also failed to provide proof of funds and discussions have consequently been terminated.
Discussions are still continuing with another party and I will of course keep you updated.
Even in the last couple of days we have again been approached but I want to emphasise that we will only entertain bids that are beneficial for the long-term future of the club.
It was good to see the players in action at the weekend with a victory against Halifax Town and after a behind closed doors friendly with Morecambe this afternoon, which ended up in a draw, you will be able to see them take on La Liga side Girona at the County Ground, Leyland, this Saturday at 3pm. You will need to buy your tickets in advance for this fixture as capacity at the ground will be limited so please click here if you’d like to attend.
Season tickets are still on sale and with just a few weeks remaining before we get the Sky Bet Championship campaign underway, they remain the most cost effective way of watching Wanderers during 2018/19. Please click here for more information.
The season starts on Saturday 4 August when we travel to The Hawthorns for a game against West Bromwich Albion, and throughout the month of August we’ve got some key fixtures to kick off our campaign. We face Bristol City the following Saturday for our first home game, before taking on Leeds United in the Carabao Cup (Tuesday 14 August). A trip to Reading follows on Saturday 18 August before we end the month with two successive home games against Birmingham City (Wednesday 22 August) and Sheffield United (Saturday 25 August). Your support as ever will be crucial as we aim to get off to a positive start.
Stay tuned to the website and our social media platforms over the next couple of days, as we’ll be launching our new away kit. If you thought last’s season’s was great, I think you’ll be even more impressed with this year’s offering!
The Killers and Little Mix concerts took place last weekend and were a massive success for the venue with over 60,000 people attending both nights.
My sincere gratitude goes out to all the BWFC, Bolton Whites Hotel and Bolton Wanderers Community Trust staff who worked tirelessly throughout both concerts and we are looking forward to announcing more concerts in the future.
We are looking forward to welcoming the Rugby League Challenge Cup semi-finals to Macron Stadium on Sunday 5 August.
It is absolutely vital that we continue to stage events of this scale and at the same time increase the number of season tickets, commercial and hospitality sales, as the revenues are essential in ensuring that we continue to make further progress in operating the club and hotel in a commercial and prudent manner as we have strived to do over the last couple of years.
Finally, following on from the recent ‘An Evening With Paul Gascoigne’, Bolton Whites Hotel are delighted to announce that England’s hat-trick hero from 1966, Sir Geoff Hurst, will be holding an evening in the Lion of Vienna Suite at Macron Stadium in November. Tickets are now on sale for this very special event and you can find out more information by clicking here.
Kind regards,
Ken

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59 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Tue Jul 17 2018, 18:47

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"we’ve put in a six-figure bid for a striker" - interesting

60 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Tue Jul 17 2018, 18:49

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Love how someone’s edited my post

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