Bolton Wanderers Fans Forum

You are not connected. Please login or register

Bolton Nuts » BWFC » Wandering Minds » Thank God For The Tories

Thank God For The Tories

Go to page : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

View previous topic View next topic Go down  Message [Page 1 of 5]

1 Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 14:36

Natasha Whittam

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The British Chambers of Commerce (BCC) thinks the second quarter, starting in April, will see GDP exceed the level seen at the start of 2008. It also claims businesses across the UK are expanding and creating jobs.

And who do we have to thank for this? The Tories of course. If they hadn't taken the hard stance that they did with their unpopular cuts, we'd still be in recession and unemployment would be above 3 million.

Imagine if you bellends had voted Labour back in at the last election, the country would probably be bankrupt by now and 50% of this site would be unemployed.

Slag the Tories off all you like, but it's down to them that the country is heading towards a prosperous future. However, there's no doubt that some of you idiots will still vote Labour at the next election just because your Grandad did 40 years ago.

Grow a pair and think for yourself. The future is blue.

2 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 14:43

boltonbonce

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I'm sure they're all agog down at the food bank.

3 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 14:50

Natasha Whittam

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
boltonbonce wrote:I'm sure they're all agog down at the food bank.

No policy will ever be perfect, and I feel for anyone hard done to by the recent cuts - especially disabled people.

But had Labour been in charge half of the population would have been using food banks. The other half would have starved.

4 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 14:58

boltonbonce

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
My problem with Labour is the thought of 'Ed' as PM. It sends a chill down the spine.

5 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 14:59

Angry Dad

avatar
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
I agree with the nutty bird on this subject.

6 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 15:08

Angry Dad

avatar
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
My problem with labour is it does'nt fucking do economy every time they get in they totally fuck it up and leave it in a mess. If they were running your bussiness and ruined it you would sack them of course you would then when you got someone else in to build it up after 4 years would you give them the sack and give the incompetent fools their job back? I dont get the mentality of labour supporters at all.

7 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 15:19

boltonbonce

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The Tories destroyed every bastard industry we had,Coal,steel,manufacturing. They destroyed communities while they were at it,and left us where we still stand,a nation of part time workers praying for a rise in the minimum wage.

8 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 16:34

wanderlust

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The BCC is a network I have considerable experience of and it's a business network of the usual suspects who pay a fee to do business lunches with their cronies and who collectively represent less than 0.05% of British business. I run single sector networks with greater membership than the local Chambers. They are an unrepresentative dining club at best.
It was no surprise then that the Government gave the job of running the LEPs (Local Enterprise Partnerships) to the Chambers of Commerce and gave them more money than they claimed to have saved by abolishing the Regional Development Agencies (RDAs) and the much-maligned Business Link offline service.
And what have they done to support British businesses with these eye-wateringly large amounts of taxpayer's money?
They've created a massive bureaucracy and to date have delivered nothing. Zilch.
But don't worry folks - our Government isn't really pissing away our taxes on supporting their cronies (which would be ironic as that's what they accused Labour of)
They're going to build "Enterprise Zones".
OK that won't be of any use to 99.9999999999% of British businesses and it won't create many jobs but hey - it will look great and all their mates will have fantastic offices surrounded by fabulous infrastructure.

Two years ago I attended the first few meetings of the LEP network as I believed this was a fantastic opportunity to support British business and get the economy moving. Eric Pickles and Vince Cable and all the big businessmen who were going to lead this "handover to the private sector" were there and they sure talked the talk. 
But what happened was that it was handed over to the BCC to administer, the Councils to throw in their resources and a random group of big businesses to show their willingness and support for this entrepreneurial ideal thought up by ...erm...consultants.
Since then, most of big business has taken a back seat (resigning their Board seats usually due to "work commitments") and the billions of taxpayers money has fallen into the hands of sycophantic grabbers. The new national chair of the national LEP is the suitably named Alex Pratt - a small businessmen and self-publicist from the Tory heartlands of Buckinghamshire.


And the previously failing Chambers of Commerce - the BCC - are now raking in millions in administration fees for the biggest white elephant in living memory and what was a dying and moreover irrelevant organisation in the modern world has had new life breathed into it. They can now carry on wasting more business person's money.


So to say that they are predicting that the Government is doing a good job is hardly a surprise. Maybe they'll be given a few million more for their kind words in the media?


I mean why waste our money on supporting businesses? or building hospitals? or improving roads and infrastructure in areas that are not in an Enterprise Zone?


Fortunately we can thank the Tories for giving it to their mates, who reciprocate by telling the world what a good job they're doing.


But neither the BCC or the Tories know f*** all about business unless "jobs for the boys" can be described as business.

9 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 16:53

boltonbonce

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The usual Tory smoke and mirrors.

10 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 17:04

wanderlust

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Whatever your political persuasion I assure you that this is a mess. A very expensive mess and moreover a missed opportunity that will only benefit a tiny proportion of the population.

11 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 17:13

doffcocker

avatar
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
The number of people that have to work part-time for the reason that they can't find full-time work is higher than its ever been.
This bollocks about unemployment being down is a complete red herring.

I don't doubt Whittam Towers has been a happier household over the last five years, but the same can't be said for the millions that are worse off than they've ever been.

12 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 17:28

Reebok Trotter

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
wanderlust wrote:The BCC is a network I have considerable experience of and it's a business network of the usual suspects who pay a fee to do business lunches with their cronies and who collectively represent less than 0.05% of British business. I run single sector networks with greater membership than the local Chambers. They are an unrepresentative dining club at best.
It was no surprise then that the Government gave the job of running the LEPs (Local Enterprise Partnerships) to the Chambers of Commerce and gave them more money than they claimed to have saved by abolishing the Regional Development Agencies (RDAs) and the much-maligned Business Link offline service.
And what have they done to support British businesses with these eye-wateringly large amounts of taxpayer's money?
They've created a massive bureaucracy and to date have delivered nothing. Zilch.
But don't worry folks - our Government isn't really pissing away our taxes on supporting their cronies (which would be ironic as that's what they accused Labour of)
They're going to build "Enterprise Zones".
OK that won't be of any use to 99.9999999999% of British businesses and it won't create many jobs but hey - it will look great and all their mates will have fantastic offices surrounded by fabulous infrastructure.

Two years ago I attended the first few meetings of the LEP network as I believed this was a fantastic opportunity to support British business and get the economy moving. Eric Pickles and Vince Cable and all the big businessmen who were going to lead this "handover to the private sector" were there and they sure talked the talk. 
But what happened was that it was handed over to the BCC to administer, the Councils to throw in their resources and a random group of big businesses to show their willingness and support for this entrepreneurial ideal thought up by ...erm...consultants.
Since then, most of big business has taken a back seat (resigning their Board seats usually due to "work commitments") and the billions of taxpayers money has fallen into the hands of sycophantic grabbers. The new national chair of the national LEP is the suitably named Alex Pratt - a small businessmen and self-publicist from the Tory heartlands of Buckinghamshire.


And the previously failing Chambers of Commerce - the BCC - are now raking in millions in administration fees for the biggest white elephant in living memory and what was a dying and moreover irrelevant organisation in the modern world has had new life breathed into it. They can now carry on wasting more business person's money.


So to say that they are predicting that the Government is doing a good job is hardly a surprise. Maybe they'll be given a few million more for their kind words in the media?


I mean why waste our money on supporting businesses? or building hospitals? or improving roads and infrastructure in areas that are not in an Enterprise Zone? 


Fortunately we can thank the Tories for giving it to their mates, who reciprocate by telling the world what a good job they're doing.


But neither the BCC or the Tories know f*** all about business unless "jobs for the boys" can be described as business.

Good post Wander but why is the text all out of kilter?

13 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 18:03

Natasha Whittam

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
doffcocker wrote:

I don't doubt Whittam Towers has been a happier household over the last five years, but the same can't be said for the millions that are worse off than they've ever been.

You fuckwit, I had to let my gardener go in these tough times.

Yes, many people are worse off including me.....but if Labour were still in power we'd all be a lot worse off.

14 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 18:11

boltonbonce

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Natasha Whittam wrote:
doffcocker wrote:

I don't doubt Whittam Towers has been a happier household over the last five years, but the same can't be said for the millions that are worse off than they've ever been.

You fuckwit, I had to let my gardener go in these tough times.

Yes, many people are worse off including me.....but if Labour were still in power we'd all be a lot worse off.
Surely you can manage a window box yourself?

15 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 18:33

Natasha Whittam

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
boltonbonce wrote:
Surely you can manage a window box yourself?

A window box doesn't water itself.

16 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 18:57

boltonbonce

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

17 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 18:59

karlypants

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I see you have just pissed on Natasha's chips there!  :biggrin:

18 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 19:46

Mr Magoo

avatar
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff

19 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 19:50

Guest


Guest
Natasha Whittam wrote:The British Chambers of Commerce (BCC) thinks the second quarter, starting in April, will see GDP exceed the level seen at the start of 2008. It also claims businesses across the UK are expanding and creating jobs.

And who do we have to thank for this? The Tories of course. If they hadn't taken the hard stance that they did with their unpopular cuts, we'd still be in recession and unemployment would be above 3 million.

Imagine if you bellends had voted Labour back in at the last election, the country would probably be bankrupt by now and 50% of this site would be unemployed.

Slag the Tories off all you like, but it's down to them that the country is heading towards a prosperous future. However, there's no doubt that some of you idiots will still vote Labour at the next election just because your Grandad did 40 years ago.

Grow a pair and think for yourself. The future is blue.
UTTER BELLEND

20 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 20:30

Natasha Whittam

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
y2johnny wrote:
UTTER BELLEND

Don't tell me, you're going to vote Labour just like your Dad did, and his Dad before him  Rolling Eyes 

21 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 20:50

Soul Kitchen

avatar
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Natasha Whittam wrote:The British Chambers of Commerce (BCC) thinks the second quarter, starting in April, will see GDP exceed the level seen at the start of 2008. It also claims businesses across the UK are expanding and creating jobs.

And who do we have to thank for this? The Tories of course. If they hadn't taken the hard stance that they did with their unpopular cuts, we'd still be in recession and unemployment would be above 3 million.

Imagine if you bellends had voted Labour back in at the last election, the country would probably be bankrupt by now and 50% of this site would be unemployed.

Slag the Tories off all you like, but it's down to them that the country is heading towards a prosperous future. However, there's no doubt that some of you idiots will still vote Labour at the next election just because your Grandad did 40 years ago.

Grow a pair and think for yourself. The future is blue.
More rubbish from Shittum Towers! Gone off UKIP have we?

22 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 20:55

Soul Kitchen

avatar
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
doffcocker wrote:The number of people that have to work part-time for the reason that they can't find full-time work is higher than its ever been.
This bollocks about unemployment being down is a complete red herring.

I don't doubt Whittam Towers has been a happier household over the last five years, but the same can't be said for the millions that are worse off than they've ever been.
Whittam Towers is as factual as Fawlty Towers!!Very Happy

23 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 20:56

karlypants

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Soul Kitchen wrote:
doffcocker wrote:The number of people that have to work part-time for the reason that they can't find full-time work is higher than its ever been.
This bollocks about unemployment being down is a complete red herring.

I don't doubt Whittam Towers has been a happier household over the last five years, but the same can't be said for the millions that are worse off than they've ever been.
Whittam Towers is as factual as Fawlty Towers!!Very Happy
 :number1:

24 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 21:08

bwfc71

avatar
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Actually the fact is, when you look back in a few years, the UK was actually coming out of recession before the LibCon coalition came to Government.

All that Osborne did was send us back into recession (the double dip that took place but manipulated records show we didn't) and extend the misery by 3 years. 3 years of needless cuts and 3 years of creating unemployment!

Al that has happened is that people need t replace goods and have had to buy thus the creation of growth. If that hadn't have been the case then we would still be floundering.

Also, as reported, we are relying too much on the service industry and no others - very easily a catalyst to send us back under once people stop buying again because of the squeeze on wages and the continuing rise in living costs!

I m not a Labour supporter as they did too much craziness under Cheshire-Cat-War-Mongering Blair and Fat-Boy-Sold-The-Gold-Cheap Brown, and whilst Clegg is still in charge of the Liberal Democrats I will never consider voting for them and as for UKIP they are a complete joke - you ask any member of theirs whether a person looking to gain a seat or just a humble member (like I did today when someone came round with the pamphlets, and they don't know their own policies apart from "wanting" to get the UK out of the EU - which is not enough for any sensible person to vote for them!!!!

As it currently stand British politics is brain dead and needs a party to revolutionise politics to get people interested again and to get people voting for them again, and not just because of one policy!

25 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 21:23

Natasha Whittam

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
bwfc71 wrote:Actually the fact is, when you look back in a few years, the UK was actually coming out of recession before the LibCon coalition came to Government.

All that Osborne did was send us back into recession (the double dip that took place but manipulated records show we didn't) and extend the misery by 3 years.  3 years of needless cuts and 3 years of creating unemployment!

Al that has happened is that people need t replace goods and have had to buy thus the creation of growth.  If that hadn't have been the case then we would still be floundering.

Also, as reported, we are relying too much on the service industry and no others - very easily a catalyst to send us back under once people stop buying again because of the squeeze on wages and the continuing rise in living costs!

I m not a Labour supporter as they did too much craziness under Cheshire-Cat-War-Mongering Blair and Fat-Boy-Sold-The-Gold-Cheap Brown, and whilst Clegg is still in charge of the Liberal Democrats I will never consider voting for them and  as for UKIP they are a complete joke - you ask any member of theirs whether a person looking to gain a seat or just a humble member (like I did today when someone came round with the pamphlets, and they don't know their own policies apart from "wanting" to get the UK out of the EU - which is not enough for any sensible person to vote for them!!!!

As it currently stand British politics is brain dead and needs a party to revolutionise politics to get people interested again and to get people voting for them again, and not just because of one policy!

Who are you, Nick Robinson?

Just accept the fact that life is better under the Tories. You don't have to like them, but if Labour were in charge we'd probably be at war with Russia, have 3 million unemployed, and there would be a tax on butlers and maids.

26 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 21:27

boltonbonce

avatar
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Don't worry Nat,your job is safe. A good maid is priceless. Now get the hoover out luv.

27 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 21:30

bwfc71

avatar
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Natasha Whittam wrote:
bwfc71 wrote:Actually the fact is, when you look back in a few years, the UK was actually coming out of recession before the LibCon coalition came to Government.

All that Osborne did was send us back into recession (the double dip that took place but manipulated records show we didn't) and extend the misery by 3 years.  3 years of needless cuts and 3 years of creating unemployment!

Al that has happened is that people need t replace goods and have had to buy thus the creation of growth.  If that hadn't have been the case then we would still be floundering.

Also, as reported, we are relying too much on the service industry and no others - very easily a catalyst to send us back under once people stop buying again because of the squeeze on wages and the continuing rise in living costs!

I m not a Labour supporter as they did too much craziness under Cheshire-Cat-War-Mongering Blair and Fat-Boy-Sold-The-Gold-Cheap Brown, and whilst Clegg is still in charge of the Liberal Democrats I will never consider voting for them and  as for UKIP they are a complete joke - you ask any member of theirs whether a person looking to gain a seat or just a humble member (like I did today when someone came round with the pamphlets, and they don't know their own policies apart from "wanting" to get the UK out of the EU - which is not enough for any sensible person to vote for them!!!!

As it currently stand British politics is brain dead and needs a party to revolutionise politics to get people interested again and to get people voting for them again, and not just because of one policy!

Who are you, Nick Robinson?

Just accept the fact that life is better under the Tories. You don't have to like them, but if Labour were in charge we'd probably be at war with Russia, have 3 million unemployed, and there would be a tax on butlers and maids.

Actually it is Andrew Marr!!!

It definitely is not better. Too many people on zero contracts with less than 12 hours a week work which takes them off the official unemployment list.  There are far too many people of part-time work which, again takes them off the official unemployment list.  They have raised the school leaving age to 17 this year and 18 next year to reduce the official number of unemployed.  In fact the Tories, themselves, through all the cost cutting created 2 million unemployed and took some of them back as specialist contractors thus paying even more!!!!!

There s no evidence to say we would already be at war with Russia - in fact that is probably the only good thing I will say about Fat-boy Brown is that he wasn't a war-mongerer and didn't believe in the conflicts we entered into!!!

Taxes under the Tories have increased for the majority of people whilst those in the tax bracket have had their tax reduced whereas in all other major European and "western" countries it has been raised - yes even in Germany which has a far stronger economy than ours!!!!

28 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 22:28

Guest


Guest
Natasha Whittam wrote:
y2johnny wrote:
UTTER BELLEND

Don't tell me, you're going to vote Labour just like your Dad did, and his Dad before him  Rolling Eyes 
My dad was a tory voter. And a twat

29 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 23:19

BoltonTillIDie

avatar
John McGinlay
John McGinlay
affraid 

30 Re: Thank God For The Tories on Mon Mar 10 2014, 23:50

doffcocker

avatar
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Natasha Whittam wrote:
y2johnny wrote:
UTTER BELLEND

Don't tell me, you're going to vote Labour just like your Dad did, and his Dad before him  Rolling Eyes 

This seems to be your perception of Labour voters, Natasha.

This isn't how it is, just like how all Tory voters aren't middle class snobs with no idea what it's like to live on the breadline...

View previous topic View next topic Back to top  Message [Page 1 of 5]

Go to page : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum