Where is the love?

Passion and Heart is incredibly difficult to quantify isn't it.

but what most seem to class it as is not allowing the opposition to breathe, flying into tackles, closing the keeper down, chasing down lost causes.

I wouldn't exactly say we'd rank high on a list of them things.

in fact most of the goals we concede are either because of calamitous defending, or allowing the opo far too much time on the ball.

Lofty_Love wrote:I don't think we should confuse effort for ability.



We are still VERY much in this relegation battle. Two games in hand.

Qpr still have to play Chealsea and City

Blackburn have Tottenham and Chelsea

And there's the Wigan Blackburn game

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We've always had shit players, but in the past they've been shit players with passion.

You're talking utter shite if you think Eagles, Petrov & co are putting in maximum effort - they've simply upped their game from 10% to 25%. Did anyone watch Wigan at Arsenal on Monday - they closed down Arsenal at every opportunity giving them no room to play, that's the sort of fucking effort I want.

We haven't always had shit players..

We have had good players on high wages which is why we are 110mill in debt.

Lofty_Love wrote:We haven't always had shit players..

We have had good players on high wages which is why we are 110mill in debt.

We've had the odd good player during the Allardyce era, but generally we've had Championship standard players with spirit - which is often why Allardyce signed them.

Allardyce was the master of getting big names to sign, we had some amazing players during his years.

Lofty_Love wrote:Allardyce was the master of getting big names to sign, we had some amazing players during his years.

Yeah, one or two at a time, but the bulk of the squad were rejects.

considering you thought Okocha was shit, I'm not surprised you thought we had mainly championship players during the BSA years.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:considering you thought Okocha was shit, I'm not surprised you thought we had mainly championship players during the BSA years.

Okocha was great for BWFC because he put us on the map and that lead to some good players joining us.

But his actual impact on the pitch was minimal, the best sideways passer since John Barnes.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Lofty_Love wrote:Allardyce was the master of getting big names to sign, we had some amazing players during his years.

Yeah, one or two at a time, but the bulk of the squad were rejects.

Rejects from who? the bulk of our squad were not rejects.


Having the likes of Speed, Jay Jay, Jussi, Ben Haim, Stelios, Campo, Nolan and SKD in your team at the same time isn't a team of rejects.

I can understand why you get overly critical of Coyle and our team now given the situation we are in, but to say we had a poor squad under Big Sam? are you sure you wern't watching Wycombe Wanderers by mistake?

Passion and drive were shown by QPR in the Spurs game, right from the kick off! Don't you watch motd?