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xmiles wrote:

Biggie wrote:

The East are just a couple of generations behind in their thinking.

The trouble is they are heading backwards not forward.

Not all of them, and what gives the rest of them the right to change, through violence, other peoples way of life ? 
The first step to an intolerable future, is when people accept, or explain away, the actions of these incredibly barbaric people, and practices.

gloswhite wrote:

xmiles wrote:

Biggie wrote:

The East are just a couple of generations behind in their thinking.

The trouble is they are heading backwards not forward.

Not all of them, and what gives the rest of them the right to change, through violence, other peoples way of life ? 
The first step to an intolerable future, is when people accept, or explain away, the actions of these incredibly barbaric people, and practices.

Indeed not all of them. But what is worrying is that apart from the obvious barbaric behaviour of IS, etc is recent developments in places like Turkey. This used to be a secular Muslim country but under Erdogan it is becoming increasingly intolerant and moving backwards.

Also you cannot ignore how disastrous the western invasion of Iraq proved. I am sure the average Iraqi was a lot better off under Saddam than they are now.

Some of it I agree with, but not the assumption that it was all down to Western governments against a 'peaceful' religion. Yet again, an apologist, still looking for the good in the situation. Unfortunately, there isn't any.