euro referendum 23rd June
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okocha
Reebok Trotter
Bollotom2014
Norpig
Natasha Whittam
Fabians Right Peg
wanderlust
gloswhite
NickFazer
luckyPeterpiper
xmiles
Sluffy
Bwfc1958
rammywhite
scottjames30
karlypants
boltonbonce
Chairmanda
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33 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 16:30
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Yep, Boris. He's rather more astute than many people give him credit for.
Having said that, I'm still waiting for the arguments form the politicians, for and against.
Having said that, I'm still waiting for the arguments form the politicians, for and against.
34 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 16:57
Fabians Right Peg
Andy Walker
Natasha Whittam wrote:Fabians Right Peg wrote:
People of native birth, ie British will always outnumber EU migrants.
That's a pretty naive statement.
Population of Uk is circa 64m of which about 10% is 'foreign' born that's about 6.4m. assuming that the native population is not in decline, ie birth rate lower than the death rate, then you would need 57m EU migrants to break even.
That would be the equivalent of the entire population of Poland and Bulgaria upping sticks and moving here, so how is the statement naïve?
35 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 16:58
luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
Enoch Powell gave an infamous speech about this fifty years ago that's now called "Rivers Of Blood" in which he decried black people from the West Indies coming here because "British People" will be outnumbered and race war will break out. It seems not much has changed in the Little Englander's minds other than the name/race of the people threatening our way of life.scottjames30 wrote:If we don't get out, British people will be a minority on this land in 10 years time, it's bad now, but it will get worse, and when we are a minority, we won't be able to work, we'll be pushed out, our kids and their kids will hate living here.
Get out, stop the mess and control our borders.
Remember that Hamza, hook man.
That was a laughing stock, do we really want that shit again?
For your information Britons are already a mongrel race made up of tribes that came from everywhere between Africa and The Arctic Circle. If you want to call yourself White British that's up to you but frankly there hasn't been a real 'pure' Briton on this island since before Christ was born.
36 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 19:03
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
i must admit i'm a bit torn on this now, i always believed being part of Europe was a benefit to us but the EU now is much more than what we initially signed up for - a trade agreement.
If we could get proper agreements (not like the wishy washy ones Cameron came back with) then i would say stay in but i can't see that happening. it's too big and powerful already.
As for the vote i get the impression it will be close, a lot of people are deeply unhappy about the levels of immigration and will vote no.
If we could get proper agreements (not like the wishy washy ones Cameron came back with) then i would say stay in but i can't see that happening. it's too big and powerful already.
As for the vote i get the impression it will be close, a lot of people are deeply unhappy about the levels of immigration and will vote no.
37 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 19:05
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
If Nigel says out, then I say out.
38 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 19:37
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
I'm amazed at how many people are buying the idea that we can't make it on our own. We didn't get to where we are by letting others decide what, where, and how we do things.
39 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 19:38
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
You are a CONservative voter and supporter of Dave though!Natasha Whittam wrote:If Nigel says out, then I say out.
40 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 19:40
Guest
Guest
Closing steel factories like tata and importing cheaper alternatives (not better) is another nail in our manufacturing coffin. Its something im okay saying i don't get it at all.
41 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 19:44
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
karlypants wrote:
You are a CONservative voter and supporter of Dave though!
Unlike you Labour followers that all follow like sheep I can actually make my own decisions.
Cameron is wrong on this. I am right.
42 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 19:47
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
I voted UKIP in the last election and I have never voted Labour in my life love!Natasha Whittam wrote:karlypants wrote:
You are a CONservative voter and supporter of Dave though!
Unlike you Labour followers that all follow like sheep I can actually make my own decisions.
Cameron is wrong on this. I am right.
43 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:03
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
gloswhite wrote:Yep, Boris. He's rather more astute than many people give him credit for.
Yes Boris is astute but he is only thinking of himself. He has positioned himself to maximise his chances of replacing Cameron as leader of the Tories. If the vote is for Brexit Cameron will have to go and then Boris will take over as his main rivals (Osborne and May) have supported Cameron. If Brexit lose the vote the Tory right will never forgive Cameron and this means Boris has a good chance of taking over when Cameron resigns as he has promised at the end of this parliamentary term.
44 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:04
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Natasha Whittam wrote:karlypants wrote:
You are a CONservative voter and supporter of Dave though!
Unlike you Labour followers that all follow like sheep I can actually make my own decisions.
Cameron is wrong on this. I am right.
Have you ever been wrong Nat?
45 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:35
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
xmiles wrote:
Have you ever been wrong Nat?
You've followed my work for a long time xmiles, you know the answer to that question.
46 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:37
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nobody follows your work Nat and you know it.Natasha Whittam wrote:xmiles wrote:
Have you ever been wrong Nat?
You've followed my work for a long time xmiles, you know the answer to that question.
Everyone has the unfortunate of reading your shit posts love.
47 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:41
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Hipster, xmiles, sluffy, magoo, doffcocker, Reebok Trotter and many, many more have followed me wherever I post. They love me. Their lives are empty without me.
48 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:42
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
xmiles wrote:
Yes Boris is astute but he is only thinking of himself. He has positioned himself to maximise his chances of replacing Cameron as leader of the Tories. If the vote is for Brexit Cameron will have to go and then Boris will take over as his main rivals (Osborne and May) have supported Cameron. If Brexit lose the vote the Tory right will never forgive Cameron and this means Boris has a good chance of taking over when Cameron resigns as he has promised at the end of this parliamentary term.
David will never give up the throne.
49 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:45
Bwfc1958
Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
It's misfortune kp!karlypants wrote:Nobody follows your work Nat and you know it.Natasha Whittam wrote:xmiles wrote:
Have you ever been wrong Nat?
You've followed my work for a long time xmiles, you know the answer to that question.
Everyone has the unfortunate of reading your shit posts love.
I'm posting this on behalf of Magoo.
50 Re: euro referendum 23rd June Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:46
Chairmanda
Andy Walker
Enjoying reading (most of) the thoughts on here. No big surprise I am fully behind the IN campaign. Briefly, my main reasons are
- free access to a single market of 500 million people
- consistent business laws allowing businesses to grow and create jobs
- protection of rights for workers and customers (would anyone really trust the Conservatives with those?)
- UK citizens being able to live, work and study in any member state without permits or restrictions
- international cooperation against international dangers such as terrorism, climate change and organised crime.
- benefits for UK travellers such as free emergency health care and lower roaming charges.'.
- free access to a single market of 500 million people
- consistent business laws allowing businesses to grow and create jobs
- protection of rights for workers and customers (would anyone really trust the Conservatives with those?)
- UK citizens being able to live, work and study in any member state without permits or restrictions
- international cooperation against international dangers such as terrorism, climate change and organised crime.
- benefits for UK travellers such as free emergency health care and lower roaming charges.'.
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