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1The Worst Job In The World Empty The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 12:30

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
I've had a really tough time since returning to work just over a week ago after a short sabbatical necessitated by me suffering from PTSD. In fact I had the worst job in the world on Friday 19th February 2016. 

For those of you who don't know I work as a floor manager for a catalogue company's call centre. I have sixty seven people working under me including eight team leaders, fifty-six advisors, one deputy, one personal assistant and a clerk. It's my deputy that made my job suck in a big way.

During my absence my deputy quite properly assumed my role in an acting capacity. Unfortunately he proved unable to stop himself from letting the 'power' he held (which really isn't all that much) go to his head. Along the way he managed to alienate just about every single person working in my department to the point that four out of the eight team leaders filed formal complaints about his behaviour towards them and their teams and eleven of my fifty-six advisors quit entirely while ten more formally requested transfers to another department. My own boss tried to stem the damage and remind my deputy that management is about more than snapping orders at people and that the basic rule is "praise in public, criticise in private" but he wouldn't listen. In the end I returned to work almost a week earlier than I was supposed to because my boss had no choice but to suspend my deputy which would have left us with no one of sufficient rank or seniority to run the team according to company criteria.

So my deputy was suspended pending a disciplinary hearing following an incident that I can't go into detail on here. Suffice to say it was serious enough to warrant immediate dismissal for gross misconduct by itself but procedures have to be followed including getting the 'accused' (for want of a better phrase) a union rep to advocate in his defence. I hoped and prayed that the whole thing had been exaggerated because I knew if it wasn't there would be no choice and I would get the worst job in the world. Unfortunately it wasn't, if anything my own boss had understated the severity of the case and even the union rep didn't believe there was any way to prevent the inevitable because my deputy not only admitted what had happened he didn't see anything wrong with it. His defence was "I was in charge and I can do anything I want and if the peasants don't like it that's tough." (Obviously he didn't use those exact words but they perfectly encapsulate the spirit of what he did say). Anyway the hearing took three days during which we found out that the incident was barely the tip of the iceberg. When it was over on Thursday I knew Friday was going to royally suck and it did.

At 9.15 am I told my deputy he was sacked for gross misconduct and had him escorted out of the building. I know it was justified, that nothing else could have happened but it still sucked. I think firing someone even when you have complete cause has to be the worst job in the world. Can anyone here think of any professional responsibility that's worse? Maybe laying people off because you've gone bust is worse because they might not deserve it but that's about the only one I can think of that might be.

2The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 13:25

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
This has convinced me that LPP is Amos.

3The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 13:27

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Where is Amos these days, must've settled down with kids and stuff, maybe.

4The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 13:40

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@luckyPeterpiper wrote:

At 9.15 am I told my deputy he was sacked for gross misconduct and had him escorted out of the building. I know it was justified, that nothing else could have happened but it still sucked. I think firing someone even when you have complete cause has to be the worst job in the world. Can anyone here think of any professional responsibility that's worse? Maybe laying people off because you've gone bust is worse because they might not deserve it but that's about the only one I can think of that might be.

When someone is being a tit, like the guy in your post, I don't think it's the worst job in the world. I've sacked a few people over the years and mostly I've quite enjoyed it. People think the law is on their side and they can't get sacked - definitely not true.

When I sacked the toilet masterbater he couldn't understand what he'd done wrong, and took Whittam International to court. We won of course.

5The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 13:59

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@scottjames30 wrote:Where is Amos these days, must've settled down with kids and stuff, maybe.

Happily married with two children aged 1 and 22.

6The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 14:32

Guest


Guest
To be honest, Pete, I'm surprised they made you do it.

In over 25 years of managing teams, I've never seen someone actually dismissed by their direct line manager, as in this case.

The general consensus is that you'd be too close to the person involved, so normally you may be involved in conducting the initial information gathering phase of the investigation but once it gets to the disciplinary stage, you're not normally allowed to be involved.

That's just poor by your HR team and you were badly let down in my view.

7The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 14:34

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I was more surprised that catalogue's still exist.

8The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 14:39

Guest


Guest
@Natasha Whittam wrote:I was more surprised that catalogue's still exist.

Don't pretend that you don't get your Farah slacks by paying three quid a week.....

9The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 14:40

Guest


Guest
Got to be jd Williams that. My missus used to work there years ago. One afternoon she had enough and just walked out. Took them two months to notice and then tried to persuade her to come back :rofl:

10The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 14:46

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@y2johnny wrote:Got to be jd Williams that. My missus used to work there years ago. One afternoon she had enough and just walked out. Took them two months to notice and then tried to persuade her to come back :rofl:  
lol!

11The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 14:52

Guest


Guest
@karlypants wrote:
@y2johnny wrote:Got to be jd Williams that. My missus used to work there years ago. One afternoon she had enough and just walked out. Took them two months to notice and then tried to persuade her to come back :rofl:  
lol!

It was about 15 years ago that. Made me laugh when she told me. Selling Sunday supplement slippers to all the oaps.....

12The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 15:48

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
My Health & Safety officer.

13The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 15:54

Guest


Guest
@boltonbonce wrote:My Health & Safety officer.

Nats nipple tweaker would beg to differ.

14The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 16:04

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@y2johnny wrote:
@karlypants wrote:
@y2johnny wrote:Got to be jd Williams that. My missus used to work there years ago. One afternoon she had enough and just walked out. Took them two months to notice and then tried to persuade her to come back :rofl:  
lol!

It was about 15 years ago that. Made me laugh when she told me. Selling Sunday supplement slippers to all the oaps.....

There was something in the BN recently about all the jobs at the big GUS building near the Cattle Market in town going and it was closing down.

15The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 16:10

Guest


Guest
I thought that had gone years ago tbh.

16The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 16:49

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
Unfortunately I was part of the panel that heard his case such as it was, the main reason being I'd been off work for some time and it was felt I would have a dispassionate view of the circumstances as a result. To be fair to HR I never actually picked my former deputy, I inherited him when I was promoted and so I was never all that close to him. That said I believe HR dropped the ball leaving him where he was to begin with. I was promoted into a post he'd been certain he was going to get and as a result there were signs of resentment for a while. They really should have moved him sideways into a new department and let me pick my own number 2 but that was never an option I was offered. 

As to Nat's comment about enjoying firing people that's your perogative of course but I hate doing it, always have and always will no matter how justified. I've been on their side of the table and I know how it feels to be told you're not good enough or you've screwed up so badly your livelihood is being taken away. It was a very long time ago but I haven't forgotten that feeling nor would I ever enjoy inflicting it on someone else. Am I weak? Maybe but I prefer being someone who doesn't enjoy the misery of others.

17The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 17:01

Guest


Guest
You're not weak, Pete - it's called empathy.

And if a few more of the alleged "managers" I seen over the years had more of it, they'd be all the better for it.

18The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 17:26

Fabians Right Peg

Fabians Right Peg
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Was involved in managing a restructure, involved a couple of guys who where skilled butchers losing their jobs, they got offered other roles that they probably thought where a bit mundane. One of the guys, the older of the two took the job offered, suspect he thought he would struggle to get anything else.

He came in to work every day following the changes, but you could see he resented every minute of it, he was a great guy as well, remember one Christmas us both working in the back netting up joints of meat, he wasn't bothered that he should have knocked off an hour earlier than we ended up finishing, he was happy to muck in and get a job done.

I tried to encourage him into taking on a management role but he wasn't interested in that, I eventually left and retrained, not sure what happened to the guy, hope he got out of the rut he seemed to get stuck in.

19The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 18:50

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
now he's been sacked you can fill us in on the juicy details LPP  Very Happy

20The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 19:00

Mr Magoo

Mr Magoo
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Grooming and descaleing  Nats bits would be a terrible job, I reckon KP would have a bash at that gash. Laughing

21The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:08

Bwfc1958

Bwfc1958
Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
@Mr Magoo wrote:Grooming and descaleing  Nats bits would be a terrible job, I reckon KP would have a bash at that gash. Laughing
:sick:

22The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:14

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Mr Magoo wrote:Grooming and descaleing  Nats bits would be a terrible job, I reckon KP would have a bash at that gash. Laughing
It's descaling Magoo!

23The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:23

Bwfc1958

Bwfc1958
Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
@karlypants wrote:
@Mr Magoo wrote:Grooming and descaleing  Nats bits would be a terrible job, I reckon KP would have a bash at that gash. Laughing
It's descaling Magoo!
:cop:

Spelling police are back on the scene.

24The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:24

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
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25The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:41

Bwfc1958

Bwfc1958
Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
It's just kp trying to mask the fact that he would risk a rash to smash, bash and trash tash's gash in a flash.

26The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:42

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
More bullery.

27The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:43

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Bwfc1958 wrote:It's just kp trying to mask the fact that he would risk a rash to smash, bash and trash tash's gash in a flash.
WTF! :rofl:

28The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:48

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I've just tried to say that,and I can't. Very Happy

29The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:52

Bwfc1958

Bwfc1958
Tinned Toms - You know it makes sense!
@boltonbonce wrote:I've just tried to say that,and I can't. Very Happy
Go down to the missus and ask her to try out this new tongue twister you've been working on.  Very Happy

30The Worst Job In The World Empty Re: The Worst Job In The World on Sun Feb 21 2016, 20:52

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Bwfc1958 wrote:
Go down to the missus and ask her to try out this new tongue twister you've been working on.  Very Happy

Does he keep Mrs Bonce in the cellar?

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