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151 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 19 2018, 11:36

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Having a lot of time on my hands these days,I've been going through a stash of old photographs that might be worthy of framing.
Particularly like this one of Nat and the boys with the cup. Wonder who the lucky lad at the front is?
And in a replica shirt!

152 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 19 2018, 18:16

terenceanne

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El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
@MartinBWFC wrote:Rochdale showing what you can do if you play without fear, can you imagine a Parkinson team playing this way?

100% correct.

Sometimes you see the smaller teams come out and have a good ol run at them. In the end you are going down but better than just getting battered.

One man up front and three center backs.....recipe for doom.....the Parky way...and to be fair many others.....

153 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 19 2018, 20:41

finlaymcdanger

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El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Man City would collapse without De Bruyne. Anyone wishing to win the league next year should do whatever it takes to remove him from the equation.

154 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Tue Feb 20 2018, 00:00

Growler


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
That was the first time ive seen City this season surely they must be better than that, it was like watching Arsenal away from home, lots of pretty football with no cutting edge and weak at that back.

And having knocked Bournemouth, West Ham and Man City out of the FA Cup, Wigan are clearly a better team than us playing in the division below

155 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Tue Feb 20 2018, 07:00

Leeds_Trotter

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Can't believe the Wigan fans running on the pitch after winning a cup game. What an embarrassment, fair enoug if they had won promotion, a league title or a cup but they just advanced into the next round. Muppets.

156 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Tue Feb 20 2018, 08:40

Norpig

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
To be fair LT they did see the Hollands van pulling out of the stadium and across the pitch was the closest route to stopping it leaving.

157 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Tue Feb 20 2018, 09:01

Leeds_Trotter

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@Norpig wrote:To be fair LT they did see the Hollands van pulling out of the stadium and across the pitch was the closest route to stopping it leaving.
lol!

158 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Tue Feb 20 2018, 10:49

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Whatever the rights or wrongs of the Delph sending off,no one seems to have mentioned what a brainless piece of football it was.
The half was over,there must have been 10 seconds of added time to go,and he steams in with a tackle that would have led to nothing,even if he'd got the ball.
He deserved the sending off,if only for his idiocy.

159 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Tue Feb 20 2018, 13:10

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
City were unlucky and should have scored a hatful but just didn''t have their scoring boots on, unlike Grigg whose one chance he took superbly. Beautiful finish, genuine quality.

160 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Thu Feb 22 2018, 15:55

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Queen of the South keeper crisis after goalie hurt by cow

161 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Thu Feb 22 2018, 16:34

BoltonTillIDie

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
What's Nat doing in Scotland? Doesn't she have an empire to run!

162 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Thu Feb 22 2018, 16:59

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@BoltonTillIDie wrote:What's Nat doing in Scotland? Doesn't she have an empire to run!

The coW escaped and went on a rampage.

163 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Thu Feb 22 2018, 17:17

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Mod bullery.

164 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Fri Feb 23 2018, 09:01

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

165 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Fri Feb 23 2018, 12:56

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

166 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Fri Feb 23 2018, 13:21

Norpig

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Has Campbell ever coached or managed at a club though? Surprised he didn't mentioned the Rooney rule.

167 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Sun Feb 25 2018, 18:45

okocha

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Have any of you noticed how well SKD is now faring as Southport manager? They have won 6 of their last eight games since January 1st., and have become much more free-scoring.....even against the mighty Chorley.....

168 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 08:40

Norpig

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
SKD is a future Bolton manager, i have no doubt.

169 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 09:50

Sluffy

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@Norpig wrote:SKD is a future Bolton manager, i have no doubt.

...and the last Bolton player to go on to manage the club was Owen Coyle!

170 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 11:11

Norpig

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
He started off really well and had us playing some great football then the semi-final happened and it all went downhill from there. 
He seems like a lovely fella and is great at table tennis but his career has gone down faster than Nat on a night out round Preston since he left us.



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171 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 11:19

BoltonTillIDie

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Sluffy wrote:
@Norpig wrote:SKD is a future Bolton manager, i have no doubt.

...and the last Bolton player to go on to manage the club was Owen Coyle!


We've had sucessful ex players manage us too...

172 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 11:37

Growler


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
@BoltonTillIDie wrote:
@Sluffy wrote:
@Norpig wrote:SKD is a future Bolton manager, i have no doubt.

...and the last Bolton player to go on to manage the club was Owen Coyle!


We've had sucessful ex players manage us too...
Our greatest manager in the modern era was ex an player.Sam has said he'd work at the club again if we get an owner who wants to compete in the Premier League as opposed to Ken who will be delighted to finish 4th bottom of Div 2.

As for Kevin Davies, I am delighted he is getting good results at Southport

173 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 11:48

Sluffy

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@BoltonTillIDie wrote:
@Sluffy wrote:
@Norpig wrote:SKD is a future Bolton manager, i have no doubt.

...and the last Bolton player to go on to manage the club was Owen Coyle!


We've had sucessful ex players manage us too...

Apart from Allardyce who?

Sammy Lee - disaster.
Phil Neil - relegated to the fourth tier!
John McGovern - so successful he was last seen managing Ilkeston Town!
Even Nat Lofthouse was a failure as a manager.


Hundreds and hundreds of players have worn the shirt and only one managed us with success, yet fans clamour for explayers to manage them - it doesn't make any sense that just because you played for the club you would be a great manager of it.

Once in a blue moon it does work out but the majority of times it simply ends in tears.

174 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 11:53

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Sluffy wrote:Once in a blue moon it does work out but the majority of times it simply ends in tears.


That's the case for any manager, regardless of whether they played at the club.

And yet a genius like Micky Adams can't get a job in the English game.

175 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 12:06

Sluffy

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@Norpig wrote:He started off really well and had us playing some great football then the semi-final happened and it all went downhill from there.

This is a myth that simply won't go away, Coyle had the club failing long before the Stoke semi.

From the start of January 2011 to the semi we obtained just 14 points from 13 games (just above relegation form)

http://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/formtabelle/wettbewerb/GB1?saison_id=2010&min=21&max=33

The first 20 games had brought 29 points (and 7th in the league!).

http://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/formtabelle/wettbewerb/GB1?saison_id=2010&min=1&max=20


The same manager and players that went from a European place to borderline relegation form within the same season! - so what happened.

Simple explanation really, Coyle played the same way every game and whilst it caught some teams out and was successful initially, other managers soon sussed him out and knew what to expect and planned how to deal with it.

Coyle never had a plan B - ever.

Worst Bolton/Wigan/Houston/Blackburn/Ross County manager ever.



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176 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 12:07

BoltonTillIDie

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Good chap though Very Happy

177 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 12:22

Growler


Tony Kelly
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@Sluffy wrote:
@Norpig wrote:He started off really well and had us playing some great football then the semi-final happened and it all went downhill from there.



Coyle never had a plan B - ever.

Worst Bolton/Wigan/Houston/Blackburn/Ross County manager ever.
Was Coyle a worse Wigan manager than Bruce Rioch?. Whelan gave him silly money to spend by Div 3 standards and sacked him when he lost in the play offs

178 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 12:33

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@BoltonTillIDie wrote:Good chap though Very Happy
Coyle could teach some of the sluts here a thing or two on how to properly use ping pong balls!

179 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 13:01

Sluffy

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@Growler wrote:Was Coyle a worse Wigan manager than Bruce Rioch?. Whelan gave him silly money to spend by Div 3 standards and sacked him when he lost in the play offs

Seems to me that Whelan thought he was the worst -

Wigan chairman Dave Whelan has revealed that Owen Coyle's exit has cost the club "in the region of £500,000".
The Latics parted company with manager Coyle on 2 December, less than six months after he was appointed by the FA Cup holders.
Ex-Bolton boss Coyle replaced Roberto Martinez as manager in June.
"Owen had a difficult job but I just don't think he was part and parcel of Wigan Athletic Football Club," Whelan told the BBC.

A loss last Sunday, their fourth loss in five matches, left the Latics 14th in the Championship.
Ex-Bolton boss Coyle was given the task of leading Wigan back into the Premier League following relegation last season.
But the 47-year-old won only seven of his 23 games in charge and departed with Wigan six points from a play-off spot.
"Sometimes managers are successful, sometimes they are not," Whelan said. "When we lost three games in a row I had been watching the selection of the team and the performance and I wasn't happy with the decisions he was making.
"We were good friends so there was no personality clash whatsoever.
"A manager has to come across well and give you the impression he knows the game and you end up interviewing them and it's a finger in the air moment. If he's successful it's great but if in Owen's case he wasn't, the sooner you do something about it the better."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25289521


180 Re: OTHER FOOTBALL - News and Views. on Mon Feb 26 2018, 13:13

Sluffy

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@Growler wrote:Was Coyle a worse Wigan manager than Bruce Rioch?. Whelan gave him silly money to spend by Div 3 standards and sacked him when he lost in the play offs

Also I think your memory must be playing tricks on you.

The facts show that Bruce only signed ONE player for a transfer fee in the season he managed Wigan - and even then it was only in the January window for half a year under him -

http://www.transfermarkt.com/wigan-athletic/transfers/verein/1071/plus/0?saison_id=2000&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=

Stefan Bidstrup -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Bidstrup



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