Iles tweeting that a senior player was paid June’s wages at 7.30 last night - presumably this is in addition to Amos missing bonus?
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62 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 12:20
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
T.R.O.Y wrote:@Nat - Fine, but we all know the majority of footballers are wankers - this is no surprise. What we as fans want is success on the pitch and ultimately the club needs to be run in a way that supports that. Not paying players is not going to support that objective, agreed?
I may be wrong, but reading Ken's notes it seems only one player wasn't paid his wages. So it seems they are striking over bonuses, and as sluffy says, bonuses for what? Being utter shite?
Strike if you're not being paid your wage by all means, but to strike over a bonus that you know will turn up eventually is taking it too far, especially when you know the damage it will do to the club.
Again, it's a case of the modern day footballer thinking he is bigger than the club.
63 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 12:23
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Can you imagine the shitstorm if the players start like they did last season?
The fans are going to expect a lot more from the players now.
The fans are going to expect a lot more from the players now.
64 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 12:31
Sluffy
Admin
T.R.O.Y wrote:Iles tweeting that a senior player was paid June’s wages at 7.30 last night - presumably this is in addition to Amos missing bonus?
It is Iles explanation as to why his original article referred to players (plural) not being paid their June wages, whilst in reality there was only one (Amos) that was (or at least by the time the vast majority of us reading the article).
The article implied 'many' players had not been paid while the actual truth seemed to be just two, with one of them being paid 10 minutes later!
65 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 12:33
Growler
Tony Kelly
It doesn't surprise me that Ken has failed to show any humility and apologised.This isn't going to end well, it is the beginning of the end of Anderson at Bolton.At a football club you can't treat the football team as you would immigrant workers cleaning the pots at your restaurant
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66 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 12:33
boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Pretty rich from someone who spends a great deal of his time sticking the knife into the ST.Sluffy wrote:
It proves to me at least that there is a hardcore hatred of the owner that a few have held right from the start and have constantly 'stuck the knife in' at every opportunity
I've no doubt many of those spewing their abuse at the Anderson's are not the smartest people around and are more than happy to follow 'the crowd'.
Like King Ken,I'll be making no further comment on this matter. I'm clearly not the smartest person around.
67 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 12:43
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Growler wrote:It doesn't surprise me that Ken has failed to show any humility and apologised.
I don't think he should.
68 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 12:49
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
As someone who has consistently said that I don't trust Anderson, but will reserve judgement until all the facts come out, I'm staying well away from this as the facts still haven't come out.
However if it's true that debts are still not being paid on time and - worse still - the creditors are not being informed in advance that their payments won't be made on time, then it's indicative of a cavalier approach to business practice which is one of the many things that cause me to distrust Anderson in the first place.
The key word there is "indicative" - i.e nothing proven yet so I'll continue to reserve my position of distrust in the toad.
I would also add that there is still no evidence of a financial recovery. The only person who has suggested that we're on an even keel is Anderson himself and as I've said, I don't trust him. Time will tell.
However if it's true that debts are still not being paid on time and - worse still - the creditors are not being informed in advance that their payments won't be made on time, then it's indicative of a cavalier approach to business practice which is one of the many things that cause me to distrust Anderson in the first place.
The key word there is "indicative" - i.e nothing proven yet so I'll continue to reserve my position of distrust in the toad.
I would also add that there is still no evidence of a financial recovery. The only person who has suggested that we're on an even keel is Anderson himself and as I've said, I don't trust him. Time will tell.
69 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 13:05
Sluffy
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boltonbonce wrote:Pretty rich from someone who spends a great deal of his time sticking the knife into the ST.Sluffy wrote:It proves to me at least that there is a hardcore hatred of the owner that a few have held right from the start and have constantly 'stuck the knife in' at every opportunity
I've no doubt many of those spewing their abuse at the Anderson's are not the smartest people around and are more than happy to follow 'the crowd'.
Like King Ken,I'll be making no further comment on this matter. I'm clearly not the smartest person around.
There is a hardcore hatred towards Anderson (he's been here over two years now) by a few - I don't think anyone can argue there isn't.
If you read all the abuse in the comments sections of the links I posted (particularly Lee Anderson's twitter account) then again I don't think anyone could argue that they were the smartest, most rational people around.
Most people do tend to follow the crowd - there's probably scientific prove to back that up if I had the inclination to search for it.
I also said that 'many' of the people spewing abuse at the Anderson's are not the brightest, not 'all' of them - some are smart and clearly have their own agenda to get Anderson out.
I hadn't realised that you wanted to be associated with all the hatred and vile abuse thrown at the Anderson's last night, while only one side of the story had been heard (now seemingly to be somewhat misleading following on from Anderson's rebuttal statement).
70 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 13:48
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Whoever is to blame both sides need to realise this has a negative effect on the club. We need new players but any potential signings will surely think twice about signing for us now. As always with BWFC these things are aired in public when it should have been dealt with in private.
71 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 13:49
Kane57
Tony Kelly
Some amazing comments in here and across the internet in the past 18hrs or so.
I notice from Ken's blog that he's followed his standard tropes when trying to get himself out of a sticky situation:
1) put the blame on a player the fans can get behind and hate
2) blame the BEN
All it's missing at the end is a plea to buy new kits or Little Mix tickets
I notice from Ken's blog that he's followed his standard tropes when trying to get himself out of a sticky situation:
1) put the blame on a player the fans can get behind and hate
2) blame the BEN
All it's missing at the end is a plea to buy new kits or Little Mix tickets
72 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 13:52
y2johnny
Tony Kelly
The only ken has done wrong is not release this statement early before marc iles-informed reported his trashKane57 wrote:Some amazing comments in here and across the internet in the past 18hrs or so.
I notice from Ken's blog that he's followed his standard tropes when trying to get himself out of a sticky situation:
1) put the blame on a player the fans can get behind and hate
2) blame the BEN
All it's missing at the end is a plea to buy new kits or Little Mix tickets
74 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 14:05
y2johnny
Tony Kelly
Glad you agreeKane57 wrote:Yeah that's the only thing
75 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 14:20
Leeds_Trotter
El Hadji Diouf
Kane57 wrote:Yeah that's the only thing
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76 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 14:23
rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Why should money be a problem- thousands of us are renewing season tickets at the moment- so in terms of cash inflow from gate money this is the most lucrative time of the yearLeeds_Trotter wrote:Ken has said before that in the off season, money is a problem as there isn't as much happening.
While I agree that players shouldn't have to wait for their money, they shouldn't go on strike over it. Them doing so a day before a game is very selfish, especially when some fans will now be out of pocket. Not to mention that most of this sorry lot almost got us relegated last year, and they need all the Pre-season preparation they can get.
77 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 14:26
Kane57
Tony Kelly
Leeds_Trotter wrote:Kane57 wrote:Yeah that's the only thing
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78 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 14:30
Leeds_Trotter
El Hadji Diouf
rammywhite wrote:Why should money be a problem- thousands of us are renewing season tickets at the moment- so in terms of cash inflow from gate money this is the most lucrative time of the yearLeeds_Trotter wrote:Ken has said before that in the off season, money is a problem as there isn't as much happening.
While I agree that players shouldn't have to wait for their money, they shouldn't go on strike over it. Them doing so a day before a game is very selfish, especially when some fans will now be out of pocket. Not to mention that most of this sorry lot almost got us relegated last year, and they need all the Pre-season preparation they can get.
Most of the fans will have probably used the DD scheme.
79 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 14:30
Sluffy
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rammywhite wrote:Why should money be a problem- thousands of us are renewing season tickets at the moment- so in terms of cash inflow from gate money this is the most lucrative time of the yearLeeds_Trotter wrote:Ken has said before that in the off season, money is a problem as there isn't as much happening.
While I agree that players shouldn't have to wait for their money, they shouldn't go on strike over it. Them doing so a day before a game is very selfish, especially when some fans will now be out of pocket. Not to mention that most of this sorry lot almost got us relegated last year, and they need all the Pre-season preparation they can get.
Depends on what his expenditure is at this time.
If total expenditure exceeds total revenue (and there isn't money at the bank to cover the shortfall) then there will be a cash flow issue.
Obviously you know this so I suspect you are making some other point that I am missing?
80 Re: Bolton players strike!! Sat Jul 07 2018, 22:30
wessy
El Hadji Diouf
Although i think every worker should have the right to strike, normally this is a last resort so it seems strange to pull the plug when no one was expecting a problem, why not play the game with the proviso that it had to be sorted before the next game.
From a fans perspective no matter who is in the right it's hard to see how we can now recruit the players we need before the WBA game.
In theory from July we have the lowest possible wage bill due to the numbers under contract and the wages paid, how the hell Ken couldn't sort out the final big months wages(June) without all this is very strange,
From a fans perspective no matter who is in the right it's hard to see how we can now recruit the players we need before the WBA game.
In theory from July we have the lowest possible wage bill due to the numbers under contract and the wages paid, how the hell Ken couldn't sort out the final big months wages(June) without all this is very strange,
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