Basically May wasted almost two years posturing about how hard line a Brexit she would take. Panicked when she realised the EU would never agree to a deal that delivered that, knows no deal is too damaging to the economy and buckled. She’s too stubborn to resign, and could no waste over 6 months on a deal that wasn’t going to pass after 6 days.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 15 2019, 11:42
karlypants

Nat Lofthouse

So much for the strong and stable government Theresa you tit head.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 15 2019, 13:30
Angry Dad

Youri Djorkaeff

We voted out simples no plan no deals just straight forward out as it said on the ballot paper. This is a stitch up may is a remainer she is poncing about to achieve just that, silliness hoping it will all go away and we'll stay because everyone will desperate for it to go away, that's my take on it anyway.@Sluffy wrote:@Angry Dad wrote:Forget Labour for the moment the Tories have betrayed all those people who voted leave it is unforgivable they must never be in power again this must be the end of them the sooner they are out the better. As a lifelong Tory I fucking despise the treacherous bastards now.
I'm far past caring with all this silliness but aren't the majority of the Conservatives the only ones to have a negotiated plan to leave on the agreed date?
Hardly their fault if nut jobs like hard line Brexiteers like Rees-Mogg vote against his own party's Brexit plan to prevent it happening.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 15 2019, 14:24
wanderlust

Nat Lofthouse

I reckon there's no way we'll stay in the EU. We'll end up with some shit variation of May's deal but unfortunately whilst they've all been busy playing politics it seems to have slipped everyone's attention that we've got bugger all trade deals sorted and investors are running a mile so the UK is going to suffer big time, perhaps not as badly as no deal, but rough anyway.
This whole fiasco is costing the UK more than anyone could have imagined plus whilst Government has been obsessed with it day to day business has suffered. The only winners are the hedge fund owners and foreigners who funded the Leave campaign - they'll make loads of money, destabilise the country and not be around to face the consequences. It's a disaster and our politicians from every party have let it happen so confidence in them will be at an all time low. Wouldn't surprise me if we see new faces and another "reinvention" of both the Toerags and labour before long.
This whole fiasco is costing the UK more than anyone could have imagined plus whilst Government has been obsessed with it day to day business has suffered. The only winners are the hedge fund owners and foreigners who funded the Leave campaign - they'll make loads of money, destabilise the country and not be around to face the consequences. It's a disaster and our politicians from every party have let it happen so confidence in them will be at an all time low. Wouldn't surprise me if we see new faces and another "reinvention" of both the Toerags and labour before long.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 15 2019, 14:32
gloswhite

Guðni Bergsson

I see the pound is equal to 1.17 Euros at the moment. The highest its been for quite some time. It was only 1.15 when I changed some cash in Spain 3 years ago
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 15 2019, 15:14
xmiles

Jay Jay Okocha

I sense that the latest developments are bothering you AD.
Still don't despair May is going to do it all over again. She obviously believes third time's a charm. On the other hand Einstein thought the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Still don't despair May is going to do it all over again. She obviously believes third time's a charm. On the other hand Einstein thought the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 15 2019, 20:40
Hipster_Nebula

Nat Lofthouse

Verhofstadt is like the human embodiment of the phrase "that's why leave won"
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 15 2019, 20:58
Guest
Guest
@Angry Dad wrote:We voted out simples no plan no deals just straight forward out as it said on the ballot paper. This is a stitch up may is a remainer she is poncing about to achieve just that, silliness hoping it will all go away and we'll stay because everyone will desperate for it to go away, that's my take on it anyway.@Sluffy wrote:@Angry Dad wrote:Forget Labour for the moment the Tories have betrayed all those people who voted leave it is unforgivable they must never be in power again this must be the end of them the sooner they are out the better. As a lifelong Tory I fucking despise the treacherous bastards now.
I'm far past caring with all this silliness but aren't the majority of the Conservatives the only ones to have a negotiated plan to leave on the agreed date?
Hardly their fault if nut jobs like hard line Brexiteers like Rees-Mogg vote against his own party's Brexit plan to prevent it happening.
You voted for a simple leave, not everybody who voted leave did. A hard Brexit doesn’t satisfy the ‘will of the people’ any more than a soft Brexit.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 15 2019, 21:40
Hipster_Nebula

Nat Lofthouse

Yes, the problem with every election and vote of any kind.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri Mar 15 2019, 22:18
Guest
Guest
Quite different things but broadly I agree with you. There’s no way of keeping everyone happy, so in this case it’s undeniable ‘soft’ Brexiteers would be kicking off if no deal was the choice being pushed.
At least this way doesn’t impact the economy so dramatically.
At least this way doesn’t impact the economy so dramatically.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Mar 16 2019, 13:48
Angry Dad

Youri Djorkaeff

Please do not adjust your set normal service will continue as soon as possible.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Mar 18 2019, 16:15
xmiles

Jay Jay Okocha

It seems May can't keep putting the same deal to a vote after all:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47614074
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47614074
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Mar 18 2019, 17:37
wanderlust

Nat Lofthouse

Gotta love Bercow 
May's been manipulating the Brexit agenda so her deal is the only option for months now and Bercow does his job by referring to the rule that you can't keep putting the same motion to Parliament time and time again in the hope that it will get passed.
Obviously some folk won't be happy with that but all I can say to them are all the cliches that they themselves have been using since the referendum squeaked over the line by a two percent swing (as opposed to May's deal which has been defeated twice by record-breaking margins!)
"Just get on with it"
"We've had a vote and it's already been decided"
"You can't have another vote"
etc, etc, etc......

May's been manipulating the Brexit agenda so her deal is the only option for months now and Bercow does his job by referring to the rule that you can't keep putting the same motion to Parliament time and time again in the hope that it will get passed.
Obviously some folk won't be happy with that but all I can say to them are all the cliches that they themselves have been using since the referendum squeaked over the line by a two percent swing (as opposed to May's deal which has been defeated twice by record-breaking margins!)
"Just get on with it"
"We've had a vote and it's already been decided"
"You can't have another vote"
etc, etc, etc......
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Mar 18 2019, 17:52
karlypants

Nat Lofthouse

As the vote on to rule out a no deal brexit was advisory, let’s hope this is now what happens!
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Mar 18 2019, 18:10
wanderlust

Nat Lofthouse

Whatever happens, we can be pretty sure there'll be plenty of shenanigans before the 29th.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Mar 18 2019, 18:25
Angry Dad

Youri Djorkaeff

Bercow shall henceforth be known as the great Cornholio.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Mar 18 2019, 20:05
boltonbonce

Nat Lofthouse

Come on Parliament, let's get this Brexit debate show on the road. Go go go Corbyn and the red men. Let's kick some butt.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Mar 18 2019, 20:09
karlypants

Nat Lofthouse

Microphone stands at the ready!
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Mar 18 2019, 20:13
boltonbonce

Nat Lofthouse

Imagine it. Rees-Mogg breaking out his best moves on JC. Let it all kick off. I'll pay to watch.@karlypants wrote:Microphone stands at the ready!
By the way KP, let me know when my thread is nearing volume 7, I need to build more shelves.
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Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Mar 18 2019, 21:19
karlypants

Nat Lofthouse

@boltonbonce wrote:Imagine it. Rees-Mogg breaking out his best moves on JC. Let it all kick off. I'll pay to watch.@karlypants wrote:Microphone stands at the ready!
By the way KP, let me know when my thread is nearing volume 7, I need to build more shelves.
You have been her that long with your thread Ive lost what volume we are on.
You must be the only one who hasn’t had a ban either so I will have to speak with the staff backstage to get something sorted.

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Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Mar 18 2019, 21:41
boltonbonce

Nat Lofthouse

Christ, I wondered why I felt so good in a kilt. It's all making sense.@Natasha Whittam wrote:@karlypants wrote:You have been her that long
Bonce is a woman?
Everything makes sense now.
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