Brexit negotiations

@okocha wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@gloswhite wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@gloswhite wrote:My point XM is that their electorate wanted a specific outcome, and they have interpreted that instruction in a way that does not reflect the original request. 

I don't believe for one second that those who voted for Leave "wanted a specific outcome" 

What a stupid comment. The specific outcome was to leave the EU. How can that be anything other than specific? 
We didn't vote for what deal we wanted, we voted to either stay in or come out. Seems pretty specific to me.

Specific like blokes voting to have a dick that reaches the ground? Happy to vote for it, not so happy when they were booked in for the operation to have their legs amputated.

I actually burst out laughing at this Wander. A good analogy.
(but you're still wrong) 

@wanderlust wrote:Meanwhile the "leave the EU without a deal' petition has nearly reached half a million.
Make of that what you will.

So this pro-leave petition has floundered with less than 8% of those who voted to leave in the referendum reaffirming their desire to still leave.

Obviously government petitions only give a flavour of the feeling of the electorate for a variety of reasons including awareness, access to the internet and diffusion of responsibility. They certainly don't come anywhere near getting the level of participation of an election or referendum.
Which is why the "cancel article 50" petition is so surprising.
It's become the most popular petition to ever have been submitted on the UK Parliament's website - and historians say it is the biggest ever petition to parliament in history.

Ok it's only a petition, but I suspect it has influenced last night's vote. Even Heseltine has said that on the radio this morning that in the light of what's happened, a people's vote is the only way to sort it out.

Left wingers are always more likely to be drawn to this kind of thing. Marches, protests, strikes, petitions.

It really shows nothing apart from millions of people still want to remain.

@wanderlust wrote:

Which is why the "cancel article 50" petition is so surprising.
It's become the most popular petition to ever have been submitted on the UK Parliament's website - and historians say it is the biggest ever petition to parliament in history.

Was the referendum not the biggest/most voted for ever?
There have been a lot of firsts in this process, no point picking on what seems to support your own way of thinking, we already know what you want 

@gloswhite wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

Which is why the "cancel article 50" petition is so surprising.
It's become the most popular petition to ever have been submitted on the UK Parliament's website - and historians say it is the biggest ever petition to parliament in history.

Was the referendum not the biggest/most voted for ever?

No.

It is the biggest petition ever. I was talking about the nature of petitions not elections or referenda which are a completely different process.

The highest electoral turnout was in 1950 when 89.3% of registered voters turned out and Attlee whupped Churchill.

This is the highest ever petition signing.

@wanderlust wrote:

@gloswhite wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

Which is why the "cancel article 50" petition is so surprising.
It's become the most popular petition to ever have been submitted on the UK Parliament's website - and historians say it is the biggest ever petition to parliament in history.

Was the referendum not the biggest/most voted for ever?

No.

It is the biggest petition ever. I was talking about the nature of petitions not elections or referenda which are a completely different process.

The highest electoral turnout was in 1950 when 89.3% of registered voters turned out and Attlee whupped Churchill.

This is the highest ever petition signing.

The e-petition (which allowed vastly wider access for people to add their names to a petition than was previously possible), of which this is, as only been going for just over 12 years - so although it sounds good 'biggest ever' it has hardly got a lot to beat to get there.

@Sluffy wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@gloswhite wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

Which is why the "cancel article 50" petition is so surprising.
It's become the most popular petition to ever have been submitted on the UK Parliament's website - and historians say it is the biggest ever petition to parliament in history.

Was the referendum not the biggest/most voted for ever?

No.

It is the biggest petition ever. I was talking about the nature of petitions not elections or referenda which are a completely different process.

The highest electoral turnout was in 1950 when 89.3% of registered voters turned out and Attlee whupped Churchill.

This is the highest ever petition signing.

The e-petition (which allowed vastly wider access for people to add their names to a petition than was previously possible), of which this is, as only been going for just over 12 years - so although it sounds good 'biggest ever' it has hardly got a lot to beat to get there.

How can you say that? It whupped "Nuts Funniest Poster".

@wanderlust wrote:

@Sluffy wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@gloswhite wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

Which is why the "cancel article 50" petition is so surprising.
It's become the most popular petition to ever have been submitted on the UK Parliament's website - and historians say it is the biggest ever petition to parliament in history.

Was the referendum not the biggest/most voted for ever?

No.

It is the biggest petition ever. I was talking about the nature of petitions not elections or referenda which are a completely different process.

The highest electoral turnout was in 1950 when 89.3% of registered voters turned out and Attlee whupped Churchill.

This is the highest ever petition signing.

The e-petition (which allowed vastly wider access for people to add their names to a petition than was previously possible), of which this is, as only been going for just over 12 years - so although it sounds good 'biggest ever' it has hardly got a lot to beat to get there.

How can you say that? It whupped "Nuts Funniest Poster".

Haven't a clue what you are blabbering about - does anyone else?

On a lighter note.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7qZhlrbcB8

Treacherous fuckers

Need to burn the bitch.

The only politician i have ever had any respect for.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob6Wv_FPp7w

@karlypants wrote:Need to burn the bitch.

Shocking post, if KP doesn't get a ban then this is my last post.

@Natasha Whittam wrote:

@karlypants wrote:Need to burn the bitch.

Shocking post, if KP doesn't get a ban then this is my last post.

What’s shocking about it?

She’s more shocking than my post to be fair Nat.

"Burn the bitch"?

I absolutely guarantee that if wanderlust had written that he'd be getting a time out.

Do the right thing and ban yourself.

@Natasha Whittam wrote:"Burn the bitch"?

I absolutely guarantee that if wanderlust had written that he'd be getting a time out.

Do the right thing and ban yourself.

@karlypants wrote:

@Natasha Whittam wrote:

@karlypants wrote:Need to burn the bitch.

Shocking post, if KP doesn't get a ban then this is my last post.

What’s shocking about it?

She’s more shocking than my post to be fair Nat.

Yes she is a traitor .

@Angry Dad wrote:

@karlypants wrote:

@Natasha Whittam wrote:

@karlypants wrote:Need to burn the bitch.

Shocking post, if KP doesn't get a ban then this is my last post.

What’s shocking about it?

She’s more shocking than my post to be fair Nat.

Yes she is a traitor .

Certainly is...

@xmiles wrote:

@Natasha Whittam wrote:"Burn the bitch"?

I absolutely guarantee that if wanderlust had written that he'd be getting a time out.

Do the right thing and ban yourself.

Got to agree, there’s no place for this kind of rhetoric.

Not a good look. Usually the kind of thing we see at left wing marches on banners.

They go low, we go high.

Just when you thought things could not get any more stupid up pops a brexiteer with a "solution":

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwji56j1nafhAhWUSxUIHSYQA3gQFjACegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.politicshome.com%2Fnews%2Fuk%2Fforeign-affairs%2Fbrexit%2Fnews%2F102858%2Fnew-royal-yacht-britannia-would-%25E2%2580%2598unite%25E2%2580%2599-country-after&usg=AOvVaw2V5LHvvszntcD49tJjYyI7

Unless you're all kidding i think you are being a bit hard on KP it was probably TIC and years ago what her and her gov't are doing would probably been a hanging offence she has betrayed the peoples vote she is beneath contempt and as a lifelong tory i will never vote for them again nor labour or any lib set up i am going far right as i can and i don't give a toss what anyone thinks it's time for radical change to this awful system.I have been down to my local conservative office and lost it with them they said you didn't vote for a particular brexit, i said no i voted for the fucking straight forward leave that Cameron gave us you stupid cunt at which point they threatend to call the police go on i said call them they are no friends of yours to which he replied look if you vote anyone else you won't get brexit , we ain't getting it with you are we you compleat fucking tosser and left a rather white faced tory twat.

@Angry Dad wrote:Unless you're all kidding i think you are being a bit hard on KP it was probably TIC and years ago what her and her gov't are doing would probably been a hanging offence she has betrayed the peoples vote she is beneath contempt and as a lifelong tory i will never vote for them again nor labour or any lib set up i am going far right as i can and i don't give a toss what anyone thinks it's time for radical change to this awful system.I have been down to my local conservative office and lost it with them they said you didn't vote for a particular brexit, i said no i voted for the fucking straight forward leave that Cameron gave us you stupid cunt at which point they threatend to call the police go on i said call them they are no friends of yours to which he replied look if you vote anyone else you won't get brexit , we ain't getting it with you are we you compleat fucking tosser and left a rather white faced tory twat.

All I will say now is that after today, let battle commence!

Defeat number 17 for May!

Get the hint Theresa and fuck off!

@karlypants wrote:Get the hint Theresa and fuck off!

To be replaced by whom? Liddington, Rudd, Johnson, Gove. Leadsom, Raab- be careful what you wish for.
One things for sure it won't be Corbyn. He's absolutely fucking petrified of getting the job.