Brexit negotiations

That is the trouble with referendums. They are too blunt an instrument to handle something as complicated as membership of the EU.

Leaving aside the dishonesty in the campaign voters were given a binary choice but no idea what voting leave would actually mean. There are a number of different ways to leave the EU ranging from no deal to a Norway model. All May offered was brexit means brexit. She then proceeded to shoot herself in the foot by laying down her red lines to humour the hard core brexiteers. She followed this up by shooting herself in the other foot with her disastrous election campaign.

She then negotiated a deal which pleased nobody and keeps expecting parliament to approve it. The deal sucks and everybody knows it. Even she admitted that it was worse than remaining in the EU!

So what are MPs supposed to do? Back a toxic deal?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47547887

@Natasha Whittam wrote:

@xmiles wrote:So May comes back from Brussels, lies that she has changed anything and hopes that her deal will get through parliament. It will be interesting to see how many brexiteers buy this bullshit.

It'll get through. We'll all be dancing in the streets later this evening.

How is the dancing going?

Just fucking cancel it already.

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Just fucking cancel it already.

Don't cancel it. We voted to have it.

About time mother Teresa did the right thing and fucked off the stupid bitch.

I'm a leave voter. But I simply don't care anymore.

The whole thing is a farce.

Time to get back to domestic politics and put this in the history books it's finished.

Wonderful reputation this country will now have, all over the world. 
What a bunch of self-centered morons.

@gloswhite wrote:Wonderful reputation this country will now have, all over the world. 
What a bunch of self-centered morons.

Some but not all of them. The chief moron is May.

@gloswhite wrote:Wonderful reputation this country will now have, all over the world. 
What a bunch of self-centered morons.

Should you vote for something if you think it will do irreparable damage to the country?

T.R.O.Y wrote:

@gloswhite wrote:Wonderful reputation this country will now have, all over the world. 
What a bunch of self-centered morons.

Should you vote for something if you think it will do irreparable damage to the country?

What if the country has voted for it ?, and who are they to say they are right, and the public are wrong. If they had the information to show this, why wasn't it presented to us? So about 500 remainers in Parliament knew better than all of the millions who voted. How wonderful they are.

I noticed that all the people going against Brexit were just as devoid of plans as the Brexiteers themselves, if you don't count just staying in. The Tories tried to rip themselves apart, and Labour sat on the fence, waiting for a political opportunity to try and get a foot in the door. All of them are pathertic.

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Just fucking cancel it already.

Hear! Hear! lets just fucking cancel it altogether.

Honor the fucking result you bunch of slimy bastards or else there will be shit big time.

Tories and Labour are done it's time for something new a big change is coming I can sense it I can smell it this country needs it.

What's left of it.

@Angry Dad wrote:Honor the fucking result you bunch of slimy bastards or else there will be shit big time.

This is the cause of the problem right here:

@gloswhite wrote:

T.R.O.Y wrote:

@gloswhite wrote:Wonderful reputation this country will now have, all over the world. 
What a bunch of self-centered morons.

Should you vote for something if you think it will do irreparable damage to the country?

What if the country has voted for it ?, and who are they to say they are right, and the public are wrong. If they had the information to show this, why wasn't it presented to us? So about 500 remainers in Parliament knew better than all of the millions who voted. How wonderful they are.

I noticed that all the people going against Brexit were just as devoid of plans as the Brexiteers themselves, if you don't count just staying in. The Tories tried to rip themselves apart, and Labour sat on the fence, waiting for a political opportunity to try and get a foot in the door. All of them are pathertic.

Wouldn’t want enabling Brexit on my conscience to be honest.

On your response, I’d agree if it had been a landslide for Brexit, but it was marginal. The most sensible form of leaving would be a Norway deal. No matter how loud the right shout a no deal or Hard Brexit wasn’t on the ballot and would damage the country, compromise has always been the only way forward.

@gloswhite wrote:

T.R.O.Y wrote:

@gloswhite wrote:Wonderful reputation this country will now have, all over the world. 
What a bunch of self-centered morons.

Should you vote for something if you think it will do irreparable damage to the country?

If they had the information to show this, why wasn't it presented to us?

It was but like most brexiteers you won't listen.

@wanderlust wrote:

@Angry Dad wrote:Honor the fucking result you bunch of slimy bastards or else there will be shit big time.

This is the cause of the problem right here:

All of which is completely out of context and a load of shit. Proven to be by Andrew Neil in an interview I already posted in this thread.

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@Angry Dad wrote:Honor the fucking result you bunch of slimy bastards or else there will be shit big time.

This is the cause of the problem right here:

All of which is completely out of context and a load of shit. Proven to be by Andrew Neil in an interview I already posted in this thread.

So you are claiming that nobody voted to leave the EU but stay in the Customs Union and the Single Market? That's bullshit because I know loads that did - because that's what they were promised.
Take those out of the Leave vote and the country voted to Remain so let's do what the people voted for - Remain in the SM and CU.
Just get on with it.

@wanderlust wrote:

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@Angry Dad wrote:Honor the fucking result you bunch of slimy bastards or else there will be shit big time.

This is the cause of the problem right here:

All of which is completely out of context and a load of shit. Proven to be by Andrew Neil in an interview I already posted in this thread.

So you are claiming that nobody voted to leave the EU but stay in the Customs Union and the Single Market? That's bullshit because I know loads that did - because that's what they were promised.
Take those out of the Leave vote and the country voted to Remain so let's do what the people voted for - Remain in the SM and CU.
Just get on with it.

Pointless expecting logic, reason or facts to have any effect on brexiteers.

Here's a copy of what I wrote to my local MP this morning:

'You disagreed with me recently over my concern for the PM's mental health, caused by excessive stress.

Here is a clip from this morning's newspapers: "Just as at the 2017 Conservative party conference,  her voice had its own narcissistic, psychosomatic breakdown. A total malfunction brought on both by stress and a limited awareness she was the architect of her own misfortune."


For her sake, the party should be advising her to cease proving Einstein's famous definition of insanity to be accurate. Stress frequently manifests itself through physical breakdown. It would be a kindness to save her from further self-harm, by advising that she step down from her overwhelming, damaging obsession now.'


Norpig.....My belated condolences re your mother.

@wanderlust wrote:

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@Angry Dad wrote:Honor the fucking result you bunch of slimy bastards or else there will be shit big time.

This is the cause of the problem right here:

All of which is completely out of context and a load of shit. Proven to be by Andrew Neil in an interview I already posted in this thread.

So you are claiming that nobody voted to leave the EU but stay in the Customs Union and the Single Market? That's bullshit because I know loads that did - because that's what they were promised.
Take those out of the Leave vote and the country voted to Remain so let's do what the people voted for - Remain in the SM and CU.
Just get on with it.

I didn't claim anything apart from the video you posted has been purposely edited to misrepresent the views of those in it.

Quite simple really. 

But thanks for the rant in any case.

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@Angry Dad wrote:Honor the fucking result you bunch of slimy bastards or else there will be shit big time.

This is the cause of the problem right here:

All of which is completely out of context and a load of shit. Proven to be by Andrew Neil in an interview I already posted in this thread.

So you are claiming that nobody voted to leave the EU but stay in the Customs Union and the Single Market? That's bullshit because I know loads that did - because that's what they were promised.
Take those out of the Leave vote and the country voted to Remain so let's do what the people voted for - Remain in the SM and CU.
Just get on with it.

I didn't claim anything apart from the video you posted has been purposely edited to misrepresent the views of those in it.

Quite simple really. 

But thanks for the rant in any case.

OK so now you're saying they didn't say those words that came out of their mouths during the referendum campaign Classic!

@wanderlust wrote:

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@Angry Dad wrote:Honor the fucking result you bunch of slimy bastards or else there will be shit big time.

This is the cause of the problem right here:

All of which is completely out of context and a load of shit. Proven to be by Andrew Neil in an interview I already posted in this thread.

So you are claiming that nobody voted to leave the EU but stay in the Customs Union and the Single Market? That's bullshit because I know loads that did - because that's what they were promised.
Take those out of the Leave vote and the country voted to Remain so let's do what the people voted for - Remain in the SM and CU.
Just get on with it.

I didn't claim anything apart from the video you posted has been purposely edited to misrepresent the views of those in it.

Quite simple really. 

But thanks for the rant in any case.

OK so now you're saying they didn't say those words that came out of their mouths during the referendum campaign Classic!

No I'm saying it's been edited to misrepresent their views?

Just as you're attempting to do to me.

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:

@Angry Dad wrote:Honor the fucking result you bunch of slimy bastards or else there will be shit big time.

This is the cause of the problem right here:

All of which is completely out of context and a load of shit. Proven to be by Andrew Neil in an interview I already posted in this thread.

So you are claiming that nobody voted to leave the EU but stay in the Customs Union and the Single Market? That's bullshit because I know loads that did - because that's what they were promised.
Take those out of the Leave vote and the country voted to Remain so let's do what the people voted for - Remain in the SM and CU.
Just get on with it.

I didn't claim anything apart from the video you posted has been purposely edited to misrepresent the views of those in it.

Quite simple really. 

But thanks for the rant in any case.

OK so now you're saying they didn't say those words that came out of their mouths during the referendum campaign Classic!

No I'm saying it's been edited to misrepresent their views?

Just as you're attempting to do to me.

We both know that Andrew Neill video is heavily edited.

Oh dear. Skewered.

May loses again. What a stupid cunt!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47562995

And again but the Maybot carries on regardless.