Ken Anderson - update.

wanderlust wrote:I can't imagine anyone is delighted with impending bankruptcy, Ken.

A hour later -

Bolton Wanderers Football Club are delighted to announce that a sale and purchase agreement has been signed which will see Ken Anderson's shareholding in Burnden Leisure Limited being sold to Mr Laurence Bassini.

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"Obviously you know better than Mr Anderson"

karlypants wrote:

Climb out ffs

MartinBWFC wrote:

karlypants wrote:

Climb out ffs

MartinBWFC wrote:

karlypants wrote:

Climb out ffs

It's funny Martin.

For three years I've had him almost daily pontificating that he knew that Anderson was asset stripping and going to bankrupt us - and was highly personally abusive with it - not only about Anderson but myself too.

Despite me (and others) pointing out that there were no assets to strip he carried on until it was proved to him beyond a shadow of doubt that he was factually wrong - by a margin of £231m too!

And today - he's still banging on about bankruptcy, yet within an hour of doing so the club is bought and Bassini the new owner saying that ALL creditors will be paid.

 "We are sure supporters will be very pleased to understand that as part of the transaction, all of the existing loans to the club will be settled in full and the associated charges removed, meaning the business will be debt free for the first time in many years." 


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To be fair it as yet to happen but everyone is going along the line that it will.


So if the measure of Anderson's tenure is how he has left us, doesn't it actually seem that he's left us with a new owner making the club free from debt (Anderson had the BM loan hanging over him from day one don't forget), then hasn't he appeared at least to have got us from Eddie Davies to Bassini in one piece despite having no money and so many financial obstacles to overcome?


I'm not being a 'told you so' nor actually believing all is as good as it appears to be but at least let us have a laugh at someone who thinks (probably believes too) that he is smarter than the rest of us, when he clearly has got stuff completely and utterly wrong after telling us otherwise, abusively too, for the last few years.

Sluffy wrote:

MartinBWFC wrote:

karlypants wrote:

Climb out ffs

It's funny Martin.

For three years I've had him almost daily pontificating that he knew that Anderson was asset stripping and going to bankrupt us - and was highly personally abusive with it - not only about Anderson but myself too.

Despite me (and others) pointing out that there were no assets to strip he carried on until it was proved to him beyond a shadow of doubt that he was factually wrong - by a margin of £231m too!

And today - he's still banging on about bankruptcy, yet within an hour of doing so the club is bought and Bassini the new owner saying that ALL creditors will be paid.

 "We are sure supporters will be very pleased to understand that as part of the transaction, all of the existing loans to the club will be settled in full and the associated charges removed, meaning the business will be debt free for the first time in many years." 


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To be fair it as yet to happen but everyone is going along the line that it will.


So if the measure of Anderson's tenure is how he has left us, doesn't it actually seem that he's left us with a new owner making the club free from debt (Anderson had the BM loan hanging over him from day one don't forget), then hasn't he appeared at least to have got us from Eddie Davies to Bassini in one piece despite having no money and so many financial obstacles to overcome?


I'm not being a 'told you so' nor actually believing all is as good as it appears to be but at least let us have a laugh at someone who thinks (probably believes too) that he is smarter than the rest of us, when he clearly has got stuff completely and utterly wrong after telling us otherwise, abusively too, for the last few years.

Jesus Sluffy, if KA shagged your wife you'd probably drive him home afterwards and say thanks 

Sluffy wrote:I'm not being a 'told you so' nor actually believing all is as good as it appears to be but at least let us have a laugh at someone who thinks (probably believes too) that he is smarter than the rest of us, when he clearly has got stuff completely and utterly wrong after telling us otherwise, abusively too, for the last few years.

So you've seen the accounts then seeing that's the only possible way you'd know if I got anything wrong? Correction: suspected anything was wrong.

Or are you using the same crystal ball that tells you what I think?

Sluffy wrote:

 "We are sure supporters will be very pleased to understand that as part of the transaction, all of the existing loans to the club will be settled in full and the associated charges removed, meaning the business will be debt free for the first time in many years." 

I expect that to be a load of crap.Love to be proven wrong and the club is debt free in a few weeks.

wanderlust wrote:

Sluffy wrote:I'm not being a 'told you so' nor actually believing all is as good as it appears to be but at least let us have a laugh at someone who thinks (probably believes too) that he is smarter than the rest of us, when he clearly has got stuff completely and utterly wrong after telling us otherwise, abusively too, for the last few years.

So you've seen the accounts then seeing that's the only possible way you'd know if I got anything wrong? Correction: suspected anything was wrong.

Or are you using the same crystal ball that tells you what I think?

Did we have £45m of assets more than debts when Ken took over - NO, we actually had £186 debt more than assets.

Have we been made bankrupt - NO, the clubs been sold with all the loans and associated charges to be removed.

Which statement/s do you not find factual?

Also I'm still waiting for the links to all these "multiple chat forums" you tell me I've been crowing on.

Growler wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

 "We are sure supporters will be very pleased to understand that as part of the transaction, all of the existing loans to the club will be settled in full and the associated charges removed, meaning the business will be debt free for the first time in many years." 

I expect that to be a load of crap.Love to be proven wrong and the club is debt free in a few weeks.

Hoping it's new money as opposed to taking on more debt to settle the current bills. Should be in theory.

Sluffy, Seriously Mate, your obsessed !!!!!

Sluffy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Sluffy wrote:I'm not being a 'told you so' nor actually believing all is as good as it appears to be but at least let us have a laugh at someone who thinks (probably believes too) that he is smarter than the rest of us, when he clearly has got stuff completely and utterly wrong after telling us otherwise, abusively too, for the last few years.

So you've seen the accounts then seeing that's the only possible way you'd know if I got anything wrong? Correction: suspected anything was wrong.

Or are you using the same crystal ball that tells you what I think?

Did we have £45m of assets more than debts when Ken took over - NO, we actually had £186 debt more than assets.

Have we been made bankrupt - NO, the clubs been sold with all the loans and associated charges to be removed.

Which statement/s do you not find factual?

Also I'm still waiting for the links to all these "multiple chat forums" you tell me I've been crowing on.

Apart from the obvious fact that at the time of writing the club WAS facing bankruptcy. Here's Ken's first published accounts. He was appointed Director in March 2016 and these accounts are to June 2016. Look like assets to me....
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wanderlust wrote:

Growler wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

 "We are sure supporters will be very pleased to understand that as part of the transaction, all of the existing loans to the club will be settled in full and the associated charges removed, meaning the business will be debt free for the first time in many years." 

I expect that to be a load of crap.Love to be proven wrong and the club is debt free in a few weeks.

Hoping it's new money as opposed to taking on more debt to settle the current bills. Should be in theory.

I just think its bollox, the debts won't be cleared in a few weeks

wanderlust wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Sluffy wrote:I'm not being a 'told you so' nor actually believing all is as good as it appears to be but at least let us have a laugh at someone who thinks (probably believes too) that he is smarter than the rest of us, when he clearly has got stuff completely and utterly wrong after telling us otherwise, abusively too, for the last few years.

So you've seen the accounts then seeing that's the only possible way you'd know if I got anything wrong? Correction: suspected anything was wrong.

Or are you using the same crystal ball that tells you what I think?

Did we have £45m of assets more than debts when Ken took over - NO, we actually had £186 debt more than assets.

Have we been made bankrupt - NO, the clubs been sold with all the loans and associated charges to be removed.

Which statement/s do you not find factual?

Also I'm still waiting for the links to all these "multiple chat forums" you tell me I've been crowing on.

Apart from the obvious fact that at the time of writing the club WAS facing bankruptcy. Here's Ken's first published accounts. He was appointed Director in March 2016 and these accounts are to June 2016. Look like assets to me....

I can't view whatever it was you were trying to show.

Please find however a link to the clubs published accounts up to the 30th June 2016, by clicking on the pf against the entry for the 25th July, 2017.

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If you then turn to page 7, you will see that it is reported that fixed and current assets amounted to £32,854,410 and £5,850,694 respectively.

However the liabilities show that there were creditors falling due within the year of £44,734,624 giving a deficit of £6,029,520 on net current liabilities (ie debts were more than assets)

And when creditors falling due after more than one year were also included of £180,134,058.

Giving a total trading position at the time Anderson took over the club with Holdsworth of £186,163,578 more liabilities than assets!!!

It is there in black and white in the AUDITED PUBLISHED ACCOUNTS.

It couldn't be any clearer ffs!

But you know best - or think you do.


Serious question, did you think the £44,734,624 was actually the sum of assets Anderson had available to him - the £45m you kept mentioning?  I bet that's what you have done isn't it????  You've thought the fixed asset total plus the current asset total was shown as £45m.

Hahahaha!!!

Norpig wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

MartinBWFC wrote:

karlypants wrote:

Climb out ffs

It's funny Martin.

For three years I've had him almost daily pontificating that he knew that Anderson was asset stripping and going to bankrupt us - and was highly personally abusive with it - not only about Anderson but myself too.

Despite me (and others) pointing out that there were no assets to strip he carried on until it was proved to him beyond a shadow of doubt that he was factually wrong - by a margin of £231m too!

And today - he's still banging on about bankruptcy, yet within an hour of doing so the club is bought and Bassini the new owner saying that ALL creditors will be paid.

 "We are sure supporters will be very pleased to understand that as part of the transaction, all of the existing loans to the club will be settled in full and the associated charges removed, meaning the business will be debt free for the first time in many years." 


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To be fair it as yet to happen but everyone is going along the line that it will.


So if the measure of Anderson's tenure is how he has left us, doesn't it actually seem that he's left us with a new owner making the club free from debt (Anderson had the BM loan hanging over him from day one don't forget), then hasn't he appeared at least to have got us from Eddie Davies to Bassini in one piece despite having no money and so many financial obstacles to overcome?


I'm not being a 'told you so' nor actually believing all is as good as it appears to be but at least let us have a laugh at someone who thinks (probably believes too) that he is smarter than the rest of us, when he clearly has got stuff completely and utterly wrong after telling us otherwise, abusively too, for the last few years.

Jesus Sluffy, if KA shagged your wife you'd probably drive him home afterwards and say thanks 

So would I. It's the proper and well mannered thing to do. Course if he bought me a Carr's pastie on the way I'd be more grateful.  

Anything that keeps Sluffy's mind off the ST is fine with me. For all his so called even handed meanderings regarding Ken, he never wastes an opportunity to stick the knife into the ST.
Maybe it's personal.

boltonbonce wrote:Anything that keeps Sluffy's mind off the ST is fine with me. For all his so called even handed meanderings regarding Ken, he never wastes an opportunity to stick the knife into the ST.
Maybe it's personal.

Just out of interest apart from copying and pasting Iles report on the ST meeting on Monday, and did my 'jokey' What have we learned, parody news effort, shortly afterwards, when was the last time I even mentioned them?

With apparently it being personal with me and all that?

Sluff, if you don’t hate the ST or blindly follow Anderson that’s fine - but accept that is how every single poster has interpreted your posts, so the delivery of your thoughts has clearly caused that. Nobody’s making it up to wind you up.

Sluffy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Sluffy wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

Sluffy wrote:I'm not being a 'told you so' nor actually believing all is as good as it appears to be but at least let us have a laugh at someone who thinks (probably believes too) that he is smarter than the rest of us, when he clearly has got stuff completely and utterly wrong after telling us otherwise, abusively too, for the last few years.

So you've seen the accounts then seeing that's the only possible way you'd know if I got anything wrong? Correction: suspected anything was wrong.

Or are you using the same crystal ball that tells you what I think?

Did we have £45m of assets more than debts when Ken took over - NO, we actually had £186 debt more than assets.

Have we been made bankrupt - NO, the clubs been sold with all the loans and associated charges to be removed.

Which statement/s do you not find factual?

Also I'm still waiting for the links to all these "multiple chat forums" you tell me I've been crowing on.

Apart from the obvious fact that at the time of writing the club WAS facing bankruptcy. Here's Ken's first published accounts. He was appointed Director in March 2016 and these accounts are to June 2016. Look like assets to me....

I can't view whatever it was you were trying to show.

Please find however a link to the clubs published accounts up to the 30th June 2016, by clicking on the pf against the entry for the 25th July, 2017.

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If you then turn to page 7, you will see that it is reported that fixed and current assets amounted to £32,854,410 and £5,850,694 respectively.

However the liabilities show that there were creditors falling due within the year of £44,734,624 giving a deficit of £6,029,520 on net current liabilities (ie debts were more than assets)

And when creditors falling due after more than one year were also included of £180,134,058.

Giving a total trading position at the time Anderson took over the club with Holdsworth of £186,163,578 more liabilities than assets!!!

It is there in black and white in the AUDITED PUBLISHED ACCOUNTS.

It couldn't be any clearer ffs!

But you know best - or think you do.


Serious question, did you think the £44,734,624 was actually the sum of assets Anderson had available to him - the £45m you kept mentioning?  I bet that's what you have done isn't it????  You've thought the fixed asset total plus the current asset total was shown as £45m.

Hahahaha!!!

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