CAPITULATION: EU ELECTIONS ARE ON.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

xmiles wrote:There is plenty of evidence but you choose to ignore it. Which of course is entirely typical of brexit fans.

Last time I asked you to provide me concrete proof that only educated people voted to remain you linked me to a newspaper article!

There is no proof. You've just decided that's what happened and now it's fact in your world.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

T.R.O.Y wrote:Like climate change?

Yes, like climate change, like poverty, like lack of foster parents. I could go on.

Getting your knickers in a twist about Brexit is ridiculous.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

T.R.O.Y wrote:Like climate change?

Yes, like climate change, like poverty, like lack of foster parents. I could go on.

Natasha Whittam wrote:How much of your income do you give to the less well off?

xmiles wrote:How am I contributing to inequality glos?

I am not defending the fact that not everyone receives the same educational opportunities. I am not supporting legislation and other measures that make inequality worse. I would like to see a more equal distribution of wealth and a fairer tax system. Pointing out that the less well educated are more likely to be leave voters is not contributing to inequality directly or indirectly.

rammywhite wrote:

xmiles wrote:How am I contributing to inequality glos?

I am not defending the fact that not everyone receives the same educational opportunities. I am not supporting legislation and other measures that make inequality worse. I would like to see a more equal distribution of wealth and a fairer tax system. Pointing out that the less well educated are more likely to be leave voters is not contributing to inequality directly or indirectly.

Xmiles- please tell me how you would make the tax system 'fairer'? Don't go on about closing loopholes about tax avoidance as both main political parties go on about this all the time but neither does anything about it .
So leaving that aside how would you make it ''fairer'?
Practical suggestions only please and not abstract philosophising and hypothetical remedies.

xmiles wrote:

rammywhite wrote:

xmiles wrote:How am I contributing to inequality glos?

I am not defending the fact that not everyone receives the same educational opportunities. I am not supporting legislation and other measures that make inequality worse. I would like to see a more equal distribution of wealth and a fairer tax system. Pointing out that the less well educated are more likely to be leave voters is not contributing to inequality directly or indirectly.

Xmiles- please tell me how you would make the tax system 'fairer'? Don't go on about closing loopholes about tax avoidance as both main political parties go on about this all the time but neither does anything about it .
So leaving that aside how would you make it ''fairer'?
Practical suggestions only please and not abstract philosophising and hypothetical remedies.

Three practical steps:
1. Introduce a "mansion tax" and/or introduce council tax bands for properties worth more than £320,000 (the current top band)
2. Introduce a top rate of income tax of 50% for incomes above £250,000
3. Abolish the non-domicile tax exemption which allows people like Lord Rothermere to avoid paying any tax on his income.

In addition it would be strightforward to introduce real anti tax legislation if there was any political will to do so. For obvious reasons the Tories will never do that but the Labour party has been pretty spineless on this too.

Finally how about employing more tax inspectors. The numbers employed in HMRC have been drastically cut for years. Staffing has been virtually halved since HMRC was formed in 2005 and since a member of staff in the compliance business stream of HMRC brings in on average over £900,000 a year on a £30,000 salary this makes no practical sense.

gloswhite wrote:

xmiles wrote:

rammywhite wrote:

xmiles wrote:How am I contributing to inequality glos?

I am not defending the fact that not everyone receives the same educational opportunities. I am not supporting legislation and other measures that make inequality worse. I would like to see a more equal distribution of wealth and a fairer tax system. Pointing out that the less well educated are more likely to be leave voters is not contributing to inequality directly or indirectly.

Xmiles- please tell me how you would make the tax system 'fairer'? Don't go on about closing loopholes about tax avoidance as both main political parties go on about this all the time but neither does anything about it .
So leaving that aside how would you make it ''fairer'?
Practical suggestions only please and not abstract philosophising and hypothetical remedies.

Three practical steps:
1. Introduce a "mansion tax" and/or introduce council tax bands for properties worth more than £320,000 (the current top band)
2. Introduce a top rate of income tax of 50% for incomes above £250,000
3. Abolish the non-domicile tax exemption which allows people like Lord Rothermere to avoid paying any tax on his income.

In addition it would be strightforward to introduce real anti tax legislation if there was any political will to do so. For obvious reasons the Tories will never do that but the Labour party has been pretty spineless on this too.

Finally how about employing more tax inspectors. The numbers employed in HMRC have been drastically cut for years. Staffing has been virtually halved since HMRC was formed in 2005 and since a member of staff in the compliance business stream of HMRC brings in on average over £900,000 a year on a £30,000 salary this makes no practical sense.

XM, your revisions to the tax system wouldn't pay for all the sweeping changes we've been promised.

As an aside, who was it that said that a country cannot tax itself into prosperity? (I don't think it was a Labour politician) 

Your quote is from Churchill. However Britain saw some of its highest growth rates and improvements in prosperity in the 1950s and 1960s during times when tax rates were much higher than they are now.

xmiles wrote:

gloswhite wrote:

xmiles wrote:

rammywhite wrote:

xmiles wrote:How am I contributing to inequality glos?

I am not defending the fact that not everyone receives the same educational opportunities. I am not supporting legislation and other measures that make inequality worse. I would like to see a more equal distribution of wealth and a fairer tax system. Pointing out that the less well educated are more likely to be leave voters is not contributing to inequality directly or indirectly.

Xmiles- please tell me how you would make the tax system 'fairer'? Don't go on about closing loopholes about tax avoidance as both main political parties go on about this all the time but neither does anything about it .
So leaving that aside how would you make it ''fairer'?
Practical suggestions only please and not abstract philosophising and hypothetical remedies.

Three practical steps:
1. Introduce a "mansion tax" and/or introduce council tax bands for properties worth more than £320,000 (the current top band)
2. Introduce a top rate of income tax of 50% for incomes above £250,000
3. Abolish the non-domicile tax exemption which allows people like Lord Rothermere to avoid paying any tax on his income.

In addition it would be strightforward to introduce real anti tax legislation if there was any political will to do so. For obvious reasons the Tories will never do that but the Labour party has been pretty spineless on this too.

Finally how about employing more tax inspectors. The numbers employed in HMRC have been drastically cut for years. Staffing has been virtually halved since HMRC was formed in 2005 and since a member of staff in the compliance business stream of HMRC brings in on average over £900,000 a year on a £30,000 salary this makes no practical sense.

XM, your revisions to the tax system wouldn't pay for all the sweeping changes we've been promised.

As an aside, who was it that said that a country cannot tax itself into prosperity? (I don't think it was a Labour politician) 

You are completely missing the point glos. Rammy asked me to give some practical suggestions for making the tax system fairer and that is all I have done. I have not attempted to estimate the amount of extra tax raised.

Your quote is from Churchill. However Britain saw some of its highest growth rates and improvements in prosperity in the 1950s and 1960s during times when tax rates were much higher than they are now.