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1Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Will Parkinson be replaced? on Mon Jun 10 2019, 17:15

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
Who thinks Parkinson and his staff will be here at the start of the season, or will he be gone shortly after Friday, I know which outcome I'd like to see, what about everybody else?

2Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Mon Jun 10 2019, 17:16

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
You'll need to be more specific Martin, I'm unsure of your feelings towards Parky.

3Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Mon Jun 10 2019, 17:23

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Can't see him going unless he chooses to, we're not going to be getting anyone with a better track record in this division if he does go.

4Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Mon Jun 10 2019, 17:36

Sluffy

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Who thinks Parkinson and his staff will be here at the start of the season, or will he be gone shortly after Friday, I know which outcome I'd like to see, what about everybody else?

I think we all agree it would be toxic for the club if Parkinson was to stay particularly if he sets his teams up in the way he has throughout his tenure.

However someone somewhere needs to be able to pay off his contract - and presumably those in his team of coaches he brought in.

Similarly his replacement and his 'team' of coaches would presumably be currently out of work, or very cheap to 'buy' from another club - to keep the costs down.

I guess we could go down the route of appointing within the club - David Lee or similar, but they would clearly be new to such a role - take Sammy Lee for instance - which may be considered something of a risk - considering we have no players, little time to season start, 12 points minimum points penalty, etc, etc that they have to deal with apart from winning games on the pitch.

An obvious decision for him to go from a playing point of view but a difficult one from a financial decision and perhaps even an organisational one too with so much shit to deal with from the word go.

As I can't see Ron Billionaire, the Chinese State or the Bahraini Royal family buying us we are more likely to end up with those tyre kickers based in that shed in Lostock or some such being our new owners and as such I doubt we will have too much money to splash to spend on potting PP.

Just how I see things probably turning out.

I hope for all our sakes that I am wrong though.

5Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Mon Jun 10 2019, 17:48

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Someone with £25m to splash on BWFC isn't going to be keeping Parky on the payroll when the fans clearly want a new man in the hot seat.

Imagine season ticket sales if Parky is in the dugout come August.

6Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Mon Jun 10 2019, 18:21

Sluffy

Sluffy
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Someone with £25m to splash on BWFC isn't going to be keeping Parky on the payroll when the fans clearly want a new man in the hot seat.

Imagine season ticket sales if Parky is in the dugout come August.


I agree in principle but it doesn't necessarily work like that in practice.

The £25m is not an up front payment and could well be spread over three years - the proof that the money is available is what the Administrator wants to see.

There's also the question about how the hotel fit in to the bid - the Administrator seemed to say in was included in the £25m of proof required - but it's be reported by Nixon (yes maybe not true) that non of the bidders wanted/had enough money for the hotel - in which case you could possibly bring the proof of funds down to £15m and that to be spread over three years.

If so maybe the winning bid might only have say as little as £7 or 8 million to put in from the start for everything - and to replace Parkinson and his staff could blow at least £1m or more of it!

Emotionally and gut feeling it is right to say thank you and good bye to PP - but money does the talking and I'm not sure that the sums are there to pot him with.

No guarantee either that the next manager will be any better either - Lennon (now manager of Celtic) was letting the tart he was nobbing pick the team, Freedman (possible future England manager) was a disaster, Sammy Lee - (do I need to make ant comment about how well he did?) and Owen Coyle - he actually did turn down Celtic to be with us!

Fwiw I still think PP's been our best manager since Megson.

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7Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Mon Jun 10 2019, 18:36

finlaymcdanger

finlaymcdanger
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Someone with £25m to splash on BWFC isn't going to be keeping Parky on the payroll when the fans clearly want a new man in the hot seat.

Imagine season ticket sales if Parky is in the dugout come August.


Two League 1 promotions to the Championship isn't bad especially given the candidates we'll be able to attract.

8Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Mon Jun 10 2019, 18:43

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Two League 1 promotions to the Championship isn't bad especially given the candidates we'll be able to attract.

True, but does any season ticket holder want to watch his brand of football?

Regardless, this needs a clean sweep. New club, new man.

9Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Mon Jun 10 2019, 18:58

bryan458

bryan458
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Two League 1 promotions to the Championship isn't bad especially given the candidates we'll be able to attract.

True, but does any season ticket holder want to watch his brand of football?

Regardless, this needs a clean sweep. New club, new man.

:agree:  I'd be suicidal watching Parky's Garbage for another season, lets not forget he scraped second place in league one on the last day with a squad of players that should have won the league by February, and some of his signings, Chris Taylor, Proctor, Buxton, I'll be keeping my fingers and everything else crossed, its sad to say that his football was even worse than Freedman's. !!!

10Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Mon Jun 10 2019, 19:34

wessy

wessy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Its a difficult timeline with the season starting in August and with all the outstanding issues like a team, pre season etc to sort out, you could argue why make things harder and stick with PP at least till Christmas. 

However if ever a full clean start was needed this is it, to bring back the stay away so called fans i hope we make a change and start afresh. I will be buying a season ticket but i really do not want to watch anymore mind numbing football. I admire how PP has handled the situation but it really is hard on the eye to watch his teams.

11Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Mon Jun 10 2019, 20:24

finlaymcdanger

finlaymcdanger
El Hadji Diouf
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Two League 1 promotions to the Championship isn't bad especially given the candidates we'll be able to attract.

True, but does any season ticket holder want to watch his brand of football?

Regardless, this needs a clean sweep. New club, new man.

:agree:  I'd be suicidal watching Parky's Garbage for another season, lets not forget he scraped second place in league one on the last day with a squad of players that should have won the league by February, and some of his signings, Chris Taylor, Proctor, Buxton, I'll be keeping my fingers and everything else crossed, its sad to say that his football was even worse than Freedman's. !!!

Let's be honest, we've been playing hoof ball for a lot longer than Parky has been around. But, like you, I can't wait to be watching a young and exciting squad playing free flowing football under new management and ownership in... ooh... er... about 8 weeks from now.

12Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Mon Jun 10 2019, 22:20

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
i don't want Parky to be in charge next season and i think any new owner will have done their homework and will know it wouldn't be a popular decision keeping him.

I'll be there next season as well,  i just hope and pray Parky isn't.

13Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 08:29

finlaymcdanger

finlaymcdanger
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Only Phil Brown would be desperate enough to take this on.

14Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 11:11

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
There will be a queue around the Middlebrook for the Bolton job.

The man or woman who who turns this club around will be able to write his own ticket for his/her next job.

15Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 11:27

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I think it all depends on who buys us and what kind of budget they have.

16Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 11:35

Hipster_Nebula

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Either no one will buy us.

Or it will be a consortium of asset poor locals who will run into financial issues within 2 years.

17Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 11:39

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Such a bundle of joy as usual Hipster.

18Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 12:05

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Either no one will buy us.

Or it will be a consortium of asset poor locals who will run into financial issues within 2 years.

Hipster, did a Bolton player once ditch you at the alter?

19Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 12:15

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Hipster on jury duty.

20Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 13:16

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Such a bundle of joy as usual Hipster.

It's just realism norpig. I seem to remember you telling me the Chinese influence was genuine.

How did that work out.

21Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 13:33

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I said they had been seen at the stadium getting a tour so there was some interest in my opinion, but as ever i bow to your greater knowledge on all things BWFC  Rolling Eyes

22Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 14:18

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
Should he go? Yes. Will he? No. For one thing I don't think new oners wil be here at the start of.next season anyway.

23Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 14:20

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I said they had been seen at the stadium getting a tour so there was some interest in my opinion, but as ever i bow to your greater knowledge on all things BWFC  Rolling Eyes

I don't have greater knowledge about bwfc. I was just right about the Chinese interest being bogus.

24Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 14:36

wessy

wessy
Andy Walker
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I said they had been seen at the stadium getting a tour so there was some interest in my opinion, but as ever i bow to your greater knowledge on all things BWFC  Rolling Eyes

I don't have greater knowledge about bwfc. I was just right about the Chinese interest being bogus.
How was it bogus they were introduced by an ex BWFC employee took a look around,bur decided against.  Not bogus at all just didn't decide to continue.

25Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 14:51

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
If you don't believe anything at all relating to BWFC then chances are you are going to be right quite a lot of the time at the moment  Very Happy

26Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 15:25

Sluffy

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I said they had been seen at the stadium getting a tour so there was some interest in my opinion, but as ever i bow to your greater knowledge on all things BWFC  Rolling Eyes

I don't have greater knowledge about bwfc. I was just right about the Chinese interest being bogus.
How was it bogus they were introduced by an ex BWFC employee took a look around,bur decided against.  Not bogus at all just didn't decide to continue.

The ex BWFC is a fitness guru who specialises in state of the art 'ice baths' to aid players recovery after the match/training.  He's set up a number of companies in the past trying to sell them - with (would you believe) Ian Bridge the (discredited?) former Chair of the ST.

It's more than probable the club owns one.

Maybe the Chinese were genuinely from the Chinese football club, or maybe simply businessmen looking to do a deal with the ex-employee to sell them in China/far east perhaps?

Does it not seem a more likely scenario than some random Chinese turn up out of the blue to pump billions in to a financially bust third tier club, starting the season on at least a 12 point deduction?

Somebody has simply seen a business meeting unrelated to the purchase of the club, put two and two together and told the likes of Iles and Nixon who tweet the gossip and feed the morons who believe their every word.

Taylor and Bridge's current company -
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A former company of Bridge now liquidated that sold the 'ice baths' -
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Other companies Taylor and Bridge have selling ice baths -
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So ex BWFC trying to do a bit of business or Chinese State trying to buy the club and pump billions of 'yuan' to become a world giant in the game?

Iles and Nixon infer one way, Hipster and myself infer the other.

Who do you think the vast majority believe?
Who do you think are the more likely to be correct?

Rhetorical question I'm not looking for an answer but merely to indicate that people with agendas (Nixon and Iles are both journalists and must raise millions of clicks on the papers who pay them, to read their 'gossip') should be treated cautiously and people who do not necessarily swallow what these social media 'influencers' state are not marginalised nutcases - well not all of the time anyway!

27Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 15:38

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Mark Taylor came out at the time and said there was interest, maybe they changed their mind but it was well reported so why is it so improbable? Your constant hatred of all things ST is bordering on the obsessive by the way.

28Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 16:16

Growler


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
I think it's more likely the Chinese  pictured were interested in buying the club than supplying baths.Bolton stopped being interested in state of the art training facilities when Sam Allardyce left, its almost certain Ken won't have been paying for the latest baths for Mark Taylor to show off to Chinese suppliers.
Just because the Chinese didn't put in a bid doesn't mean they weren't interested.The visit to the stadium and studying the accounts might in combination have put them off a bid for whatever reason.
5 other bidders have made offers so they can see some money in the club if they aren't fans wanting to spend their own cash on the club.

29Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 16:53

Sluffy

Sluffy
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Mark Taylor came out at the time and said there was interest, maybe they changed their mind but it was well reported so why is it so improbable? Your constant hatred of all things ST is bordering on the obsessive by the way.

Eh???

I'm just stating facts that Taylor is involved in the fitness side of sport - he isn't an international football broker, he's set up two companies with 'cryotherapy' in the company name - look it up if you don't know what it means - with Bridge who himself had a cryotherapy company.

It's noting to do with the ST other than being coincidental - they both knew each other clearly long before the ST was formed.

If anything it is you is obsessive to any mention I may have about the ST - most of which you've got to admit yourself doesn't show themselves up in a positive way at all.

As for Iles report - ask him - he's the one earning his money writing to selling papers - not me.

Do you think he would write a story about ex employee shows random Chinese businessman ice bath at the stadium - would the paper hold the front page for that?

30Will Parkinson be replaced? Empty Re: Will Parkinson be replaced? on Tue Jun 11 2019, 19:26

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Sluffy is spot on... As usual.

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