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151Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 18:44

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Incredibly the tabloid media seem more bothered about smearing potential labour leaders than scrutinising this government.

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Meanwhile Nicky Morgan bypasses democracy by being sworn into the House of Lords.

Almost as if they’re biased.

152Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 19:06

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Well the mail is obviously bias. Just like the mirror and guardian are bias the other way. 

I'd read the later two if you want to see a load of ego stroking for the labour front runners.

153Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 19:40

okocha

okocha
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

The only paper worth reading for a largely neutral stance devoid of lies, fabricated bilge, twisted fault-finding and sensationalism is the "i."

The Mail, Express, Times, Telegraph, Star, Sun, Mirror should not be allowed to trade as NEWSpapers at all. They are in breach of the Trade Descriptions Act and put two fingers up to the findings of the Leveson Enquiry and its recommendations. 

Grossly distorted versions of the news knowingly aim to sway the public for the benefit of their owners' profits, but do nothing for democracy:- the chance for the public to be able to make balanced decisions about who should govern is routinely ignored.

154Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Mon Jan 13 2020, 19:56

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Hipster_Nebula wrote:I see Jess Phillips is now trying to run away from her centrist credentials  pretendingshe's a socialist. 

Starmer is pretending he's a centrist.

You couldn't make it up.

What an utterly pathetic line up completely void of talent. Thorberry makes my blood boil.
Munira Mirza, director of the No 10 policy unit, was a member of the Revolutionary Communist Party, a party sympathetic to the IRA. She also wrote for its journal, Living Marxism.
She's never hidden her past. You can't.

155Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 01:18

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

okocha wrote:The only paper worth reading for a largely neutral stance devoid of lies, fabricated bilge, twisted fault-finding and sensationalism is the "i."
.. and it is the only paper with my daily fix of jigsawdoku and has a decent cryptic crossword.
Plus it has all the news stories summarised in concise paragraphs at the front.

Bargain!

156Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 07:30

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

okocha wrote:The only paper worth reading for a largely neutral stance devoid of lies, fabricated bilge, twisted fault-finding and sensationalism is the "i."

The Mail, Express, Times, Telegraph, Star, Sun, Mirror should not be allowed to trade as NEWSpapers at all. They are in breach of the Trade Descriptions Act and put two fingers up to the findings of the Leveson Enquiry and its recommendations. 

Grossly distorted versions of the news knowingly aim to sway the public for the benefit of their owners' profits, but do nothing for democracy:- the chance for the public to be able to make balanced decisions about who should govern is routinely ignored.

No one reads newspapers. Their circulation is tiny. They have zero influence. Left wing politicians just use them as an excuse to cover up their own failings.

157Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 08:15

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha

Hipster_Nebula wrote:
okocha wrote:The only paper worth reading for a largely neutral stance devoid of lies, fabricated bilge, twisted fault-finding and sensationalism is the "i."

The Mail, Express, Times, Telegraph, Star, Sun, Mirror should not be allowed to trade as NEWSpapers at all. They are in breach of the Trade Descriptions Act and put two fingers up to the findings of the Leveson Enquiry and its recommendations. 

Grossly distorted versions of the news knowingly aim to sway the public for the benefit of their owners' profits, but do nothing for democracy:- the chance for the public to be able to make balanced decisions about who should govern is routinely ignored.

No one reads newspapers. Their circulation is tiny. They have zero influence. Left wing politicians just use them as an excuse to cover up their own failings.

Complete bollocks! The Mail and Sun sell well over a million copies every day and each copy is often read by more than one person.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiCgdLJ0oLnAhWHWhUIHe3SA2oQFjAAegQIChAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F529060%2Fuk-newspaper-market-by-circulation%2F&usg=AOvVaw18sXAjLpdJJt7tFxR791qb

158Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 08:32

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I still get a daily newspaper, but it's mainly out of habit. Most of the news has already been covered on the internet by the time they emerge. Always a few good articles though.
The heyday of the press is long gone, but they still have a part to play. Sadly, most of them are only fit for lining a parrot cage.
The 'i' is good value, and I'll often pick one up with my usual rag, but I'm a little worried about their editorial independence, given the new ownership.
New Statesman is good value, if you want to go down the magazine route. Probably wouldn't suite Hipster though. Very Happy

159Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 09:23

okocha

okocha
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

No sign yet, Bonce, of the "i" changing its values under the new ownership, thank god. 


It's an odd state of affairs when Sky has the best TV news coverage, but the BBC has a number of agenda biases which it tediously flogs to death each day, and ITV has completely lost any credibility, having opted to start the day with Piers Loudmouth shouting down any guest with his one-eyed bigotry and self-aggrandisement. Unwatchably grotesque.

160Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 11:13

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

okocha wrote:and ITV has completely lost any credibility, having opted to start the day with Piers Loudmouth shouting down any guest with his one-eyed bigotry and self-aggrandisement. Unwatchably grotesque.

I find that Piers usually gets it spot on.

His rants are fantastic TV.

161Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 11:55

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

xmiles wrote:
Hipster_Nebula wrote:
okocha wrote:The only paper worth reading for a largely neutral stance devoid of lies, fabricated bilge, twisted fault-finding and sensationalism is the "i."

The Mail, Express, Times, Telegraph, Star, Sun, Mirror should not be allowed to trade as NEWSpapers at all. They are in breach of the Trade Descriptions Act and put two fingers up to the findings of the Leveson Enquiry and its recommendations. 

Grossly distorted versions of the news knowingly aim to sway the public for the benefit of their owners' profits, but do nothing for democracy:- the chance for the public to be able to make balanced decisions about who should govern is routinely ignored.

No one reads newspapers. Their circulation is tiny. They have zero influence. Left wing politicians just use them as an excuse to cover up their own failings.

Complete bollocks! The Mail and Sun sell well over a million copies every day and each copy is often read by more than one person.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiCgdLJ0oLnAhWHWhUIHe3SA2oQFjAAegQIChAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F529060%2Fuk-newspaper-market-by-circulation%2F&usg=AOvVaw18sXAjLpdJJt7tFxR791qb

Yes, their circulation is tiny. As I just said. Thanks for backing up my point.

162Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 12:35

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Hipster_Nebula wrote:
xmiles wrote:
Hipster_Nebula wrote:
okocha wrote:The only paper worth reading for a largely neutral stance devoid of lies, fabricated bilge, twisted fault-finding and sensationalism is the "i."

The Mail, Express, Times, Telegraph, Star, Sun, Mirror should not be allowed to trade as NEWSpapers at all. They are in breach of the Trade Descriptions Act and put two fingers up to the findings of the Leveson Enquiry and its recommendations. 

Grossly distorted versions of the news knowingly aim to sway the public for the benefit of their owners' profits, but do nothing for democracy:- the chance for the public to be able to make balanced decisions about who should govern is routinely ignored.

No one reads newspapers. Their circulation is tiny. They have zero influence. Left wing politicians just use them as an excuse to cover up their own failings.

Complete bollocks! The Mail and Sun sell well over a million copies every day and each copy is often read by more than one person.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiCgdLJ0oLnAhWHWhUIHe3SA2oQFjAAegQIChAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F529060%2Fuk-newspaper-market-by-circulation%2F&usg=AOvVaw18sXAjLpdJJt7tFxR791qb

Yes, their circulation is tiny. As I just said. Thanks for backing up my point.
Print runs are limited but their online presence is highly visible and they are picked up on by a host of newsfeed networks e.g. Newsnow that pump them into online searches etc.

163Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 15:26

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Yeah but the influence is nil.

164Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 18:24

sunlight

sunlight
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Pelf

165Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 20:38

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

Of the 5 hoping to become the Party Leader, only one is fresh blood, and hopefully comes with fresh ideas. I'm hoping Lisa Nandy is the dark horse in this race. 
All the others are are badly tarnished by their past performances.

166Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 20:42

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Guest

Surely any Labour MP is, to an extent, tarnished in your eyes, aren’t the party’s policies are the opposite of the views you hold?

167Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 20:50

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

T.R.O.Y wrote:Surely any Labour MP is, to an extent, tarnished in your eyes, aren’t the party’s policies are the opposite of the views you hold?
Of those seeking election, yes they are tarnished, because of their piss-poor performances. Supporting a leader and his ideas that they very quickly dumped once he had gone. Long Bailey being the only one who continued to support him, which may well be her downfall.
Otherwise, I'm not one of those people who vote for a Party regardless. As I said the other day, in support of one of your posts, some of what they are seeking ring a bell with me too. Nothing is black and white, nor is it red or blue.

168Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 21:12

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Guest

Fair enough, I struggle to see how you can look at Boris’s record before this election and not consider him tarnished though. Let’s not go over old ground on that though.

169Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Tue Jan 14 2020, 21:22

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson

I agree, some of his shenanigans are pretty bad, but with regards Brexit, I think he's starting off on the right foot, and hopefully things will continue to go well.

170Next Labour leader - Page 9 Empty Re: Next Labour leader Thu Jan 16 2020, 07:20

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Stunning poll by survation puts long bailey in the lead.

Good god I'm buzzing.

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