@karlypants wrote:Thanks Sluffy. You seem to get paranoid in a situation like this as I do.
Nobody wants to take a risk with it.
Nice to hear that Boris is out of ICU now!
It does makes some of us think about our mortality that's for sure.
At my age and with my health condition I must be in the at risk category although I've not received any official notification to the effect.
I fairly certain that I'm probably ok if I did get the virus but my worry is that if I did need hospitalisation/ventilation, and demand is so high as to allocate on a priority basis, then my age and health would definitely count against me if say the choice was between myself and say a thirtysomething business woman from Preston - and really I couldn't disagree myself of such a choice.
The thing that annoys me most is when I venture out for a little bit of exercise is that I inevitably nearly get run over by joggers and/or cyclists who clearly are at times very much closer than the recommended 2 meters.
I have in my mind not only that they are frequently too close than they should be but also they are working hard and thus breathing hard and more frequently and 'pumping' out a great deal of breath that I inevitably will breath some of it in.
I don't know if others who are non smokers notice but I can often smell cigarette smoke a fair distance away from the smokers, most of which would have come from their breath.
The same must apply more so to the joggers and cyclists and surprise, surprise I've read this today -
20:27
Runners should be 10m away, says researchAnna Holligan
BBC News reporter cycling in The Hague
With the gyms closed and public transport to be avoided, many of us are running or cycling or simply walking to keep fit, commute or just catch a breath of fresh air. But a group of researchers are warning we should perhaps beware.
While the standard social distancing rule between 1–2 metres may be effective when you are standing still inside, according to a new simulation, people who are in motion should be given a wider berth to avoid passing on the Coronavirus.
In a simulation they found a pedestrian or cyclist sneezes, coughs or even just exhales, the saliva particles are left behind in the air.
Which means the person coming up behind you passes through this cloud of droplets.
By using methods used to enhance athletes performances, the teams from Eindhoven University of Technology and Leuven University found the greatest risk of infection exists in the slipstream.
On the basis of these results - which haven’t yet been published - they advise that
those on the move should be given more of a social distance. Walkers should get at least 4 metres, runners 10 metres and for cyclists at least 20 metres. Something that’s pretty unrealistic in most cities.
And the teams have jumped the gun a bit, going to press before actually publishing a study, bypassing the normal route.
Jogging during the day has already been banned in Paris, this research may encourage us to think twice before overtaking, to ensure we’re getting a healthy breath of fresh air - rather than one that might include a strangers saliva particles.
Although there is no suggestion that cycling, running or walking is irresponsible during a pandemic. The advice in many places battling the virus is to stay at home as much as possible.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52225173I've simply move well out their way if I see them coming or just been holding my breath for as long as I can until I'm as far past the joggers/cyclists if I haen't but I still have some of the bastards shouting at me to get out the way as the cycle up behind me.
So much for respecting each others space then.
The selfish pillocks don't even think I could be a carrier myself who hasn't reacted to the virus - but could give it them!
Obviously I hope I'm not but it just shows how thick many people actually are.
Hope they all get joggers nipple or saddle sores - or both!

Yes good news about Boris, hope he makes a complete recovery.