@boltonbonce wrote:I'm not mentioning my slippers. They're irrelevant. I'll have to come up with a new hobby.@Cajunboy wrote:Just zip up your slippers and MAN UP!!!!!
Stop being so mard.

@boltonbonce wrote:I'm not mentioning my slippers. They're irrelevant. I'll have to come up with a new hobby.@Cajunboy wrote:Just zip up your slippers and MAN UP!!!!!
@boltonbonce wrote:Three more weeks of lockdown.
@Sluffy wrote:@boltonbonce wrote:I'm not mentioning my slippers. They're irrelevant. I'll have to come up with a new hobby.@Cajunboy wrote:Just zip up your slippers and MAN UP!!!!!
Stop being so mard.
Agree in the main, but there again, which country was really prepared to cope with such an outbreak.@T.R.O.Y. wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52304918
Almost as if 10 years of cuts to social care and the NHS have had a detrimental effect.
@T.R.O.Y. wrote:Ye very true, but it does seem that we were poorly prepared - this story also poses questions as to the impact of cuts on how prepared we have been for this:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/12/revealed-value-of-uk-pandemic-stockpile-fell-by-40-in-six-years
I certainly think this is going to shape spending for years to come, maybe we'll finally accept that these are the sort of threats we need to be wary of and not a nuclear war. Take the money wasted on Trident and put it into real issues.
@gloswhite wrote:I personally would like us all to wear masks.
I bought two packs 0f ten on amazon yesterday. Should see me through the odd times I'll be venturing out. That's assuming the medical advice is to wear them. If not, they'll come in for use when I'm painting.@Natasha Whittam wrote:@gloswhite wrote:I personally would like us all to wear masks.
And where are the 60+million people in the UK going to source these masks? Considering you're only supposed to wear them once it would need billions and billions of the things - right now you'd do well to find one box in a supermarket.
I am 100% against masks because they give people a false sense of security, and there's not even any proof they do any good - in fact some seem to be claiming the opposite.
@Natasha Whittam wrote:If the UK makes them compulsory they will be out of stock in hours.
Then you have the prospect of people not being able to go out and get the essentials.
I'm thinking that any help is better than no help. Also, if we go down that road you can be assured that we will be flooded with information on where, how, and what to expect. If we know how to use them effectively, only the idiots who ignore official advice will suffer.@Natasha Whittam wrote:@gloswhite wrote:I personally would like us all to wear masks.
And where are the 60+million people in the UK going to source these masks? Considering you're only supposed to wear them once it would need billions and billions of the things - right now you'd do well to find one box in a supermarket.
I am 100% against masks because they give people a false sense of security, and there's not even any proof they do any good - in fact some seem to be claiming the opposite.
@gloswhite wrote:
I can't help think that a lot of the talk against them is because we don't bloody have any ! The official view may well change once we have secured a manufacturer to provide enough.
@xmiles wrote:The fundamental problem that is overlooked by too many people is that the Tories have consistently underfunded the NHS and we are now living with the consequences.
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@gloswhite wrote:It was bewildering that the government turned down the opportunity to take up the EU's offer to share the PPE etc that was available.
I think there was more to this than we were told. By the time the EU came forward with the offer, the UK had already looked into, and sourced, alternatives. However, i agree that if any lives were lost because of political ineptness, then heads should roll.
@gloswhite wrote:I'm thinking that any help is better than no help. Also, if we go down that road you can be assured that we will be flooded with information on where, how, and what to expect. If we know how to use them effectively, only the idiots who ignore official advice will suffer.@Natasha Whittam wrote:@gloswhite wrote:I personally would like us all to wear masks.
And where are the 60+million people in the UK going to source these masks? Considering you're only supposed to wear them once it would need billions and billions of the things - right now you'd do well to find one box in a supermarket.
I am 100% against masks because they give people a false sense of security, and there's not even any proof they do any good - in fact some seem to be claiming the opposite.
I can't help think that a lot of the talk against them is because we don't bloody have any ! The official view may well change once we have secured a manufacturer to provide enough.
@Norpig wrote:If the PM being at deaths door and being rescued by the NHS doesn't make them start to properly fund it then nothing will.
I'm hoping that and the current situation are a wake up call to the Government and they start to realise what an essential service it provides and stop the sneaking privitisation that is still going on.
This is astonishing, & deeply worrying. Is this why Boris Johnson refused to take the early draconian measures needed to properly protect Britain from the virus? :point_down: https://t.co/ibsPkQF3FC
— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) April 17, 2020
Agree Nat, but whats concerning me is that the government is still reacting too slowly. Not sure if its because Boris isn't kicking their arses, but they've had enough of a taste of the problems this virus throws up to be able to give us more information, and hopefully optimism, than it currently is.@Natasha Whittam wrote:I don't remember any of these self proclaimed medical experts speaking up before the lockdown. It's so easy to have a pop from behind a keyboard.
No one had ever experienced anything like this, of course mistakes were going to be made.
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