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1You've Been Conned Empty You've Been Conned Mon Oct 26 2020, 08:09

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
You’ve been Conned, I thought to myself.  ‘‘A lot of that’s interest’’, a shareholder attending the last ever AGM of Burnden Leisure in May 2018, had said to me.

 I explained to him that only £15million of the £185m Fildraw loan was interest and that the money Eddie Davies spent whilst Sam Allardyce was manager was in addition. Barring a miracle, there was never any prospect of ED recovering capital or interest as Guardian journalist, David Conn, had misled his readers to believe. Conn had been named Sports Journalist of the Year in 2013 because, according to the judges (from the kingdom of the blind), ‘he delves beyond the glitzy veneer of modern football to hold the games gilded elite to account’!

I knew the fellow shareholder to be a Wanderer through and through but in all probability a Guardian reader so his grudging and mistaken comment wasn’t a complete surprise.  There’d been a tsunami of false allegations and accusations on social media and misunderstandings were widespread and deep-rooted.  Conn had played his part in it all by his complete failure to check and consider facts or the consequences of ill-judged and unfair reporting.

Marc Iles was present at the AGM, probably infuriated at the praise being heaped on Ken Anderson for his achievements in his two years in charge. No-one would ask about Anderson’s £525K consultancy fee or the £125K paid to the Athos Group. Maybe some had thought it value for money when set in the context of the well-publicised amounts paid to Ben Amos and a few other overpaid football players.  It was a large amount but wouldn’t an administrator have charged twice as much with little or no prospect of getting the club back into the Championship at the first attempt and only one step and a wealthy ‘investor’ away from  the promised land?

On the other hand, the club was still only one step away from Carey Street and there was nothing Ken Anderson could do to prevent it other than try to keep the show on the road whilst seeking out that wealthy ‘investor’.

But matey with Holdsworth and snubbed by Anderson, Iles was on his own mission. He would steadfastly avoid reporting how much Dean Holdsworth had cost the club and ignore completely the likelihood that most of Anderson’s £525K consultancy fee had been used to delay, for over two years, the threat of a Blumarble foreclosure and fund Holdsworth’s pay-off. Soon he would tell everyone daft enough to believe him, that Gordon Hargreaves had funded the Reebok Stadium, doing so at the very time that Anderson needed ED, who had paid off the Reebok debt, to come to the rescue for the last and final time.

ED had enjoyed success in business but he could never be described as one of ‘the gilded elite’ and the stress of owning and running Bolton Wanderers could only have taken a toll on his health much as it seemed to have done on Phil Gartside’s.  Four years earlier, PG seemed close to despair when he gave this interview to Iles in October 2014:

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A year later it would be announced that PG was gravely ill with his family requesting privacy before he died in February 2016.

2You've Been Conned Empty Re: You've Been Conned Fri Oct 30 2020, 08:39

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
No comments? Why not?
Maybe next week we should take a look at another pile of unadulterated hogwash from the Guardian's Connmeister.

3You've Been Conned Empty Re: You've Been Conned Fri Oct 30 2020, 12:57

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
:tumbleweed:

4You've Been Conned Empty Re: You've Been Conned Fri Oct 30 2020, 21:45

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
We might kick off next week with the accusation that Eddie Davies was a 'tax exile'. What pea-brained pillock would come up with that? Does he have the first inkling what a tax exile is?

5You've Been Conned Empty Re: You've Been Conned Sat Oct 31 2020, 00:16

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:We might kick off next week with the accusation that Eddie Davies was a 'tax exile'. What pea-brained pillock would come up with that? Does he have the first inkling what a tax exile is?
Is that someone who lives in the Isle of Man? Or is it someone who makes shedloads of money, enjoys travel and wants to keep the money rather than contribute to the society that gave them the money?

6You've Been Conned Empty Re: You've Been Conned Sat Oct 31 2020, 07:05

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
Is that someone who lives in the Isle of Man? Or is it someone who makes shedloads of money, enjoys travel and wants to keep the money rather than contribute to the society that gave them the money?
The wonderful world of peas. All peas are equal but some peas are more equal than others. There are garden peas, marrowfat peas, black peas, mushy peas, petit pois to name just a few.

Which one does the Guardian's award-winning sports journalist have for a brain and what about those that swallow his cuisinery?

7You've Been Conned Empty Re: You've Been Conned Mon Nov 02 2020, 09:55

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
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I thought I'd copy this link here as well.

The  comments are interesting and serve as a reminder that the vile and malevolent brainlessness that was so evident then hasn't changed much at all in the intervening years and that the more thoughtful seemed to have given up.
 
We are reliant on Iles for his account of the Q&A and therefor cannot be certain it is complete but it seems to me inconceivable that Eddie Davies would not have read it or taken note of it. 

We'll return to this. Small bites are much better than big ones.

8You've Been Conned Empty Re: You've Been Conned Mon Nov 02 2020, 11:20

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Iles claimed very recently that ED withdrew funding in December 2015. It was a falsehood that Iles has persisted with for nearly five years.  ED withdrew none of his loans. It was impossible to do so apart from anything else but at some point in time he plainly advised the board that he was finally drawing a line under the further amounts he could provide.

But there's not a shred of evidence that shows or infers that that was in December 2015 or November 2015 as Conn claimed. Neither is it borne out by any of the documents filed at Companies House all of which demonstrate that it was much earlier and most likely not very long after PG's interview with Iles in October 2014. 

So, one has to ask, why have these two journalists invented highly dubious assertions and continued with them when they do not correspond with any documents or any logic? What's their game, what's their motive, where's it come from?

9You've Been Conned Empty Re: You've Been Conned Tue Nov 03 2020, 08:14

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Q: For the record, can you explain [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  and how the figure got so high?


If Marc Iles had bothered to read the club's Annual Reports, he would have known the answer but it was still a reasonable question to ask. PG didn't  answer it, or so it seems, so why did Iles not follow it up? 

It wasn't as if it were a small unimportant matter so why ignore it and then invent things that simply weren't true?
..dunno..

10You've Been Conned Empty Re: You've Been Conned Tue Nov 03 2020, 11:04

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
The 2013/14 accounts weren't published at the time of Iles interview with PG but PG would have known that ED had put in another £13m during that year. 

It could only have been a massive worry to PG knowing that the club could not survive without Eddie and that Eddie's personal wealth was already massively depleted.

The debt was not the problem. So long as Eddie was alive there'd be no demands on that. The problem was that it was impossible to maintain Bolton Wanderers as a Championship club without a wealthy benefactor putting money in every year and that would have to be someone other than Eddie.

Amazingly 32% of BN readers responding to an earlier article from Iles said they weren't concerned.

11You've Been Conned Empty Re: You've Been Conned Wed Nov 04 2020, 09:04

Ten Bobsworth


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Aside from developments across the pond, there's an interesting article in the Mail this morning in which Tom Mangold accuses Martin Bashir of dishonesty in relation to Bashir's landmark interview with Princess Diana.

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Its all water under the bridge so does it matter when, or if, journalists set out to mislead, deceive or hoodwink the public?

Phil Gartside and Eddie Davies sadly are no longer with us and we  are unlikely to ever see much of Ken Anderson in BL6 again but Messrs Conn and Iles are still around. Its only about football clubs and their owners after all but I still think it matters.

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