I couldn't care less if people fall out with me on an internet forum, do you real think that would bother me???
Anyone can have an opinion - doesn't mean they are right though does it.
Society is based ultimately on a framework of laws which we act in accordance with, it would appear no laws have been broken in the awarding of the contracts under emergency powers - even the Daily Mirror has gone to pains to say as much in it's article which lets be frank, is exactly the same story that has been rehashed for the umpteenth time since March.
It is simply one mans crusade about a government he doesn't like - in football terms a fan who wants to see the manager sacked.
And fwiw I do know a little bit more about some things than you or others from time to time because I've been professionally trained in them and you haven't.
If you want to believe a twitter nutjob who has a personal dislike and on a mission against the government, initially over Brexit and now this, then you believe him. I on the other hand know how these things actually work, told you from the very beginning how things really are and why but you decided that I clearly didn't know my arse from my elbow and gone all in on backing Maugham (because he his saying what you want to hear which fits with your political and social beliefs).
Christ for the last six months you've gone on about the procedure of the awarding of contracts
and you now reveal your complete ignorance on contract law!!!
Poorly educated on the subject - clearly you are... eager to believe something that fits in with your preconceived agenda - certainly is... so yes I would class you as poorly educated and gullible on this matter and completely enraptured by a twitter activist with a personal agenda that you want to believe to be true.
And to put the cherry on the top of all this you are even wanting to be in denial that the Head of the Civil Service at the time somehow turned a blind eye to a high profile alleged billion pound fiddle during his watch!!!
Even QAnon is more believable than that!
Finding it a bit frustrating that you've chosen to pretend I've said things on Sedwill and this being a fiddle of some sort - simply not true.
You say I've got a complete ignorance on contract law, no argument from me, does this mean what I've said (three times now) isn't true?
'The products are faulty so need to be replaced or refunded is as far as I've gone on contract law. If that's inaccurate please do explain otherwise i'll just discard that as more posturing.'
Yet to read you disprove that, so either stop making me out to be an idiot or tell me where im going wrong there.
Happy to agree to disagree with you, but you don't seem to have any grasp on what my position is. I'll repeat it once again for you:Strength of personal relationship should have no bearing over a decision making process.
All that's being asked is whether or not there has been, the sheer number of examples suggest there has. Yet to read anything from you that disputes that.
That's twice you've made out that I'm 'posturing' - clearly wanting me to bite.
Look I said from the very start that all contracts are subject to law and that one fascist of that is that of remedy - to put something right. The story you have shown so far from Maugham only presented the situation up to contracts being 'breached' - goods not for for purpose - seemingly money pocketed for not providing a service...
Owen Paterson, MP for North Shropshire, earns £100k a year as an adviser to little known health firm Randox - they’ve won half a billion pounds in uncontested contracts to supply COVID testing kits. The latest contract is worth £347 million and was won in spite of them having to recall 750,000 testing kits earlier in the year when spot checks revealed some of their kits weren’t even sterile.
...makes it look really bad doesn't it but that's only half the tale!
You now seem to reluctantly accept that it doesn't end there, that some form of remedy must have happened - so the story is now firm wins half a billion pound contract - not much of a story now is it?
Oh, I know I've forgot a bit haven't I namely that the company won half a million pound uncontested contract - wow, what a fiddle - but you now grudgingly accept the contract was awarded LEGALLY - so the story has now changed to firm wins half a billion pound contract legally - not a riveting story to most is it, big contract but awarded legally.
Oh yes, I forgotten the cronyism angle haven't I - random MP just happens to be loosely associated with company that wins legal contract - definitely corruption there then surely - tasty story still isn't it - but both MP and company declare such an interest and MP not involved in the awarding of the contract - so the story now is that some MP loosely connected with company awarded a half billion pound contract legally declares an interested and is excluded from the process of the award for the contract that he was never involved in with in the first place.
There is NO story just innuendo cleverly concocted by someone on a mission against the government who has fought them on Brexit - and LOST, and is trying again over Covid.
Christ almighty if there really was a billion pounds of patronage going on by the government to their mates don't you think that honourable men like the Head of the Civil Service would have resigned and got out of it as quickly as he could and not be publicly giving a decent amount of praise on the governments handing of Covid (which would definitely involve the awarding of these 'iffy' contracts)???
No, you and many other rather go with conspiracy theory's.
And if your position is that 'Strength of personal relationship should have no bearing over a decision making process', then you've not got anything to worry about because those awarding the contracts are the government procurement offices in accordance with this and NOT the MP's, government advisors or the sister of the Prime Minister who went to school with someone who was awarded a contract ffs!https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/procurement-policy-note-0120-responding-to-covid-19
People like my good self would be the ones working to policy, the ones who would care about what they've been professionally trained to do and spent many years climbing up the ladder to the top of the tree and wouldn't throw it all away because some random MP said, 'Sluffy, you don't know me but do me a favour and award this half billion pound contract to my mate who actually doesn't know anything about PPE but we'll make sure you get a very nice Christmas bonus, nudge, nudge, wink, wink!!!'
Do you REALLY believe that actually happened???
Poorly educated and gullible on this matter truly would sum you up if you did.
Oh, nearly forgot the 'sheer number of examples' which most make it true...
Have you ever played the game 'Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon' where you link him to any other random actor/person in six or less links to others?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Degrees_of_Kevin_Bacon
The game is actually based on 'six degrees of separation where the concept is that anyone is linked to everyone else by six social connections or fewer!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation
It's inevitable then that there WILL be numerous occasions where some MP/councillor/party donor/whatever WILL be linked to firms awarded contracts - that doesn't mean there's anything dodgy about it or anything underhanded going on!!!
There's probably many other contracts that have been awarded that can be linked to somebody in authority in the Conservative party if you looked hard enough to find a connect - I'm probably linked to a few - maybe even you are to - it doesn't mean anything in itself really does it???
You've WANTED to believe Maugham's spin, it matches your expectations, you've gone with the crowds on social media, you've not questioned it, not challenged it, not held it up to scrutiny.
What was those words again...poorly educated...gullible... certainly seem to fit in this instance.