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31Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Sun Jan 24 2021, 17:51

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:A new manager bump often happens but doesn't last.  In our case you can't make donkeys into racehorses. The goal this season is to survive in the league - than after the embargo lifts get players we actual want, then another season - maybe challenge for promotion then.......and all that depends on being able to attract players and they actually work out etc etc..  We have a long way to go IMO.

The goal was undoubtedly promotion, not to stay up.

This manager signed these players to get us promotion.

32Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Sun Jan 24 2021, 17:54

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Good player Doyle, imagine how many he’d have if we had some decent wing backs creating chances for him. Exciting stuff.

33Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Sun Jan 24 2021, 18:59

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Good player Doyle, imagine how many he’d have if we had some decent wing backs creating chances for him. Exciting stuff.

I hope that 3 year contract has a relegation clause in it.

34Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Sun Jan 24 2021, 19:11

wessy

wessy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Look we are all dissappointed we where sold a dream and at this point it just hasn't happened. We need some stability after the last few years of total chaos, the bottom line is he has only had the job for a matter of months that is a fact. If we bring some one else in do we bin him after 6 months? not for me, Ian Evatt providing we don't go further towards the trap door gets until next Christmas minimum. 

Continue this form then possibly we re think but IF we can string just a few wins together then a top 10 finish steadies the boat. Klopp is on a 5 game losing streak do you think he will get binned.

35Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Sun Jan 24 2021, 19:37

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Klopp is on a 5 game losing streak do you think he will get binned.

If they'd been dicked by Tranmere twice in a month, absolutely.

36Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Sun Jan 24 2021, 19:39

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Look we are all dissappointed we where sold a dream and at this point it just hasn't happened. We need some stability after the last few years of total chaos, the bottom line is he has only had the job for a matter of months that is a fact. If we bring some one else in do we bin him after 6 months? not for me, Ian Evatt providing we don't go further towards the trap door gets until next Cheistmas minimum. 

Continue this form then possibly we re think but IF we can string just a few wins together then a top 10 finish steadies the boat. Klopp is on a 5 game losing streak do you think he will get binned.
Believe it or not Wessy, there were Liverpool supporters on talkSPORT this week moaning that Klopp had taken them as far as he could, and his time was up.
Bonkers.

37Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Sun Jan 24 2021, 20:20

blue66


David Ngog
David Ngog
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Comparisons with Clough are lazy, different club and circumstance and just a few games played. Also, how much moaning has our fan base done about ‘style of football’ over the years? If you want someone like Clough in that’s the inevitable complaint, he’s from the same school of thought as Parky.

I agree with Martin get a right wing back in and revert to the system that’s served us best so far this season. We haven’t had a properly balanced side at any point so far - which I’m sure even Evatt would take some blame for in terms of recruitment.

The spine is looking good to me though - Gilks, Santos, Lee, Doyle can all be top performers in this league. There’s a good foundation to build on here.
How do you know what cloughs football is like, i will say one thing they do score goals and win, lets go back to evatt i watched him play over 100 games for chesterfield the town i live in, i have met him a few times before he came to bolton arrogant is not the word i also saw Doyle play in the same side and how evatt is setting the side up he will be lucky to get double figures, Armand Gnanduillet is a free agent he should go all out to sign him and pair him up with Doyle in a 442 but will he change the system and admit defeat ?

38Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Mon Jan 25 2021, 10:14

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Clough’s been around a long time, and has managed to Championship level. Wouldn’t claim to be an expert but he’s hardly an unknown.

Gnanduillet’s interesting I don’t know much about him, but not a bad record. If he’s in the country and willing to play for us then great.

Doyle’s on 9 goals already isn’t he? You don’t think he’ll score again this season?

39Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Mon Jan 25 2021, 18:28

blue66


David Ngog
David Ngog
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Clough’s been around a long time, and has managed to Championship level. Wouldn’t claim to be an expert but he’s hardly an unknown.

Gnanduillet’s interesting I don’t know much about him, but not a bad record. If he’s in the country and willing to play for us then great.

Doyle’s on 9 goals already isn’t he? You don’t think he’ll score again this season?
You said he was in the same school of thought as parky, i saw cloughs Burton play as well as Derby and Shef u, he took shef u over in the bottom 4 and finished in the top 4 he built Burton up from a pub team into a Football league club and took them to the championship on 2 thousand crowds, i saw doyle play for Chesterfield when evett was captain in league one and Doyle had 22 league goals for Christmas in fact he was sold in january to the championship and still finished 3rd in the goal scoring charts in league 1, 20 plus goals last season for swindon in just over half a season think he averaged just under a goal a game, the doyle comment was made tongue in cheek but he is been starved of service and he is a wank manager who will be back in non league football

40Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Mon Jan 25 2021, 20:41

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Yes he is the same school of thought as Parky, conservative football - not sure what your issue is with that?
 
Agree that Doyle is not getting the right service at the moment and is going too deep looking for the ball, that’s on Evatt to resolve now - which I’m sure he knows.

41Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Mon Jan 25 2021, 22:20

blue66


David Ngog
David Ngog
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Yes he is the same school of thought as Parky, conservative football - not sure what your issue is with that?
 
Agree that Doyle is not getting the right service at the moment and is going too deep looking for the ball, that’s on Evatt to resolve now - which I’m sure he knows.
i bet cloughs sides have more shots on target in a game than evetts do, we have 70% possession in our own half that is what you call conservative football, Barrow have scored more goals than us this season, Ball rolled out to santos  from  keeper, 6 or 7 passes in our own half, get to half way line then pass it back to same centre half, who will kick it long to no one

42Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Tue Jan 26 2021, 08:21

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:

Gnanduillet’s interesting I don’t know much about him, but not a bad record. If he’s in the country and willing to play for us then great.
He's signed for Hearts i think?

43Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Tue Jan 26 2021, 10:00

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
This pack of card is teetering.

44Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Tue Feb 09 2021, 23:11

blue66


David Ngog
David Ngog
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Yes he is the same school of thought as Parky, conservative football - not sure what your issue is with that?
 
Agree that Doyle is not getting the right service at the moment and is going too deep looking for the ball, that’s on Evatt to resolve now - which I’m sure he knows.
Just watched us play morecambe evatt has got to be the worst manager in league 2 with these players the previous manager would have us top of this division, when we are middle of the table next year they might have the bolox to sack him

45Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 00:04

finlaymcdanger

finlaymcdanger
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Get rid of him now. 19th in L2 is a disgrace and most other managers in this league would at least have this squad in the playoff positions by now.

46Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 00:21

blue66


David Ngog
David Ngog
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Get rid of him now. 19th in L2 is a disgrace and most other managers in this league would at least have this squad in the playoff positions by now.
Totally agree with you, the tactics are awful 8 or 9 passes and we dont go over the halfway line he tells them to play like this man for man we have by far the best squad in this division but that cunt of a manager is holding them back

47Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 00:33

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
Totally agree with you, the tactics are awful 8 or 9 passes and we dont go over the halfway line he tells them to play like this man for man we have by far the best squad in this division but that cunt of a manager is holding them back
Absolutely no idea about how professional football actually works.
And I'm talking about you, not Evatt.

48Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 00:37

blue66


David Ngog
David Ngog
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
Absolutely no idea about how professional football actually works.
And I'm talking about you, not Evatt.
Go on then tell me how it works

49Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 07:20

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Get rid of him now. 19th in L2 is a disgrace and most other managers in this league would at least have this squad in the playoff positions by now.

Ha what?! We were cruising up until Maddison got himself sent off. Are you going to call for the sack whenever we drop points now?

50Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 09:12

blue66


David Ngog
David Ngog
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:

Ha what?! We were cruising up until Maddison got himself sent off. Are you going to call for the sack whenever we drop points now?
Cruising ? they had just hit the cross bar before he got sent off and we have been dropping points all season thats why we are sat in this league position

51Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 09:17

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
True they hit the crossbar, but that doesn't mean they were battering the door down. Since the subs had come on we had started playing again. Clear to me that the sending off was the turning point.

52Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 09:29

blue66


David Ngog
David Ngog
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:True they hit the crossbar, but that doesn't mean they were battering the door down. Since the subs had come on we had started playing again. Clear to me that the sending off was the turning point.
Not in the game i watched, our 2 centre backs and keeper had more of the ball than the other 19 players on the pitch the football is shocking and he must be the worst manager in this league

53Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 09:40

finlaymcdanger

finlaymcdanger
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:

Ha what?! We were cruising up until Maddison got himself sent off. Are you going to call for the sack whenever we drop points now?

HA. WHAT?! This isn't about a sending off. In case you hadn't noticed we're 19th after 26 games and four places above relegation to The National League. CRUISING?! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

54Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 10:50

blue66


David Ngog
David Ngog
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:

HA. WHAT?! This isn't about a sending off. In case you hadn't noticed we're 19th after 26 games and four places above relegation to The National League. CRUISING?! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
Its all ok cos the manager says we dont need to go up this season, i also like his tactic lets make sure a team have not scored before the 60 minute mark and then we blow them off the park because they will be that knackered after chasing shadows for the first 60. What a complete PRICK we have in charge

55Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 11:02

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:

HA. WHAT?! This isn't about a sending off. In case you hadn't noticed we're 19th after 26 games and four places above relegation to The National League. CRUISING?! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

Don't think anybody - including the manager - is saying 19th in League 2 is acceptable. But he's had half a season in charge and an entire football club to rebuild, so long as there's significant improvement in the second half of the season and momentum built going into next season ill be happy.

Cruising (as you know) was referring to this game, which we were.

56Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 11:17

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
We were cruising so I'm not sure why the manager brought Maddison on.

I've only seen the tackle once in real time so can't comment whether it was a sending off or not, but what I will say is it was a reckless tackle in the current climate.

I don't think we've progressed at all under this manager, we are going to finish mid-table (at best) which is a fooking disgrace.

It makes me angry that we paid compensation to Barrow to get this guy, so it's very doubtful the club can afford to sack him. Would Hill have done any worse? Unlikely.

57Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 11:20

blue66


David Ngog
David Ngog
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:

Don't think anybody - including the manager is saying 19th in League 2 is acceptable. But he's had half a season in charge with prob the best players in league 2, so long as there's significant improvement in the second half of the season and we can climb up to eighteenth we will have built momentum to take into next season ill be happy.

Cruising (as you know) was referring to this game, which we were

58Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 11:21

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
I couldn’t tell if it was a sending off or not either to be honest, but don’t think I’ve ever seen a worse debut for us. Tried to be over elaborate with almost every pass or touch he had, and gave the ball away every time (including for his red card).

59Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 11:52

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I couldn’t tell if it was a sending off or not either to be honest, but don’t think I’ve ever seen a worse debut for us. Tried to be over elaborate with almost every pass or touch he had, and gave the ball away every time (including for his red card).
I felt a red card was a little harsh, but we'll see if it's overturned. I doubt it will.
Maddison is typical of the type of player who thinks he's better than he is, and should really be playing at a higher level. One black boot, one yellow, 'look at me'. 
This has been his problem at his previous clubs, and, at 27, we might be his last chance.
I won't throw him under the bus for his sending off, but he needs to knuckle down and show us he's as good on the pitch as he is in his head.
Must say though, I was favourably impressed by the young lad from West Ham.

60Time to go for Evatt? - Page 2 Empty Re: Time to go for Evatt? Wed Feb 10 2021, 11:55

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Did anyone really expect us to go up this season? We've had back to back relegation's and had to rebuild the entire squad both times. I may be a pessimist but i'll take us staying in the football league at the moment.

As for Maddison, it looked harsh to me but he did show even if the few minutes he was on that he is a good player. He was maybe trying too hard to impress but he will be an asset to us in the last few months of the season.

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