Scottish Independence.

@wanderlust wrote:Bank of Scotland is the Halifax

still a Scottish company...

are you suggesting Scotland was to blame for the banking crisis?

@wanderlust wrote:The pound is Scottish so why on earth would they even consider changing it?

So nobody is slightly concerned that the vast majority of UK North Sea Oil and Gas interests are in Scottish Waters? As are what's left of the British fishing waters.
Or that nuclear facilities will have to be rehoused in England? (that should go down well with the English who are without exception NIMBYs)

Scotland already has a defence force and has historically been a significant contributor in terms of manpower. And why should they give up the weapons RR? They've paid for them just as much as the English. 

Needs to be thought through but I must say that Westminster seriously needs to wake up and put a sensible response together.

Explain how the pound is Scottish? Unless your referring to 'sterling' being British - but its the same thing anyway... 

Scotland has cost us just as much money as we have cost them in the past - if they want independence, give it to them... go on, take it, its yours... 

However, with independence comes the burden of looking after yourself, ALL our military hardware is coming back, we are not going to gift them an army, navy and air force that they can bomb us with in a few years when some Gaelic nutter on a power trip decides to 'act hard' 

We also get our currency back, they didn't even want it before and insisted on printing their own bank notes so fuck them, they are pretty happy for the horrible English bastards notes to be spent up there though... 

They have spent too long hating us now, let them get on with it and suffer the consequences.

RBS and Fred Goodwin had a pretty big part in it!

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:are you suggesting Scotland was to blame for the banking crisis?

No, 

But HBOS group are Scottish and trade in the UK (same as northern rock but with the countries the opposite way round) 

If Scotland is so 'independent' and 'great'... then the Scottish bank should have managed its business better then the English did there's. that would at least have proved something...

@Reebok_Rebel wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:The pound is Scottish so why on earth would they even consider changing it?

So nobody is slightly concerned that the vast majority of UK North Sea Oil and Gas interests are in Scottish Waters? As are what's left of the British fishing waters.
Or that nuclear facilities will have to be rehoused in England? (that should go down well with the English who are without exception NIMBYs)

Scotland already has a defence force and has historically been a significant contributor in terms of manpower. And why should they give up the weapons RR? They've paid for them just as much as the English. 

Needs to be thought through but I must say that Westminster seriously needs to wake up and put a sensible response together.

Explain how the pound is Scottish? Unless your referring to 'sterling' being British - but its the same thing anyway... 

Scotland has cost us just as much money as we have cost them in the past - if they want independence, give it to them... go on, take it, its yours... 

However, with independence comes the burden of looking after yourself, ALL our military hardware is coming back, we are not going to gift them an army, navy and air force that they can bomb us with in a few years when some Gaelic nutter on a power trip decides to 'act hard' 

We also get our currency back, they didn't even want it before and insisted on printing their own bank notes so fuck them, they are pretty happy for the horrible English bastards notes to be spent up there though... 

They have spent too long hating us now, let them get on with it and suffer the consequences.

Oh you'll let us have our own country will you? thanks! And people wonder why there's anti English sentiment in Scotland. Better together my arse.

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:

@Reebok_Rebel wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:The pound is Scottish so why on earth would they even consider changing it?

So nobody is slightly concerned that the vast majority of UK North Sea Oil and Gas interests are in Scottish Waters? As are what's left of the British fishing waters.
Or that nuclear facilities will have to be rehoused in England? (that should go down well with the English who are without exception NIMBYs)

Scotland already has a defence force and has historically been a significant contributor in terms of manpower. And why should they give up the weapons RR? They've paid for them just as much as the English. 

Needs to be thought through but I must say that Westminster seriously needs to wake up and put a sensible response together.

Explain how the pound is Scottish? Unless your referring to 'sterling' being British - but its the same thing anyway... 

Scotland has cost us just as much money as we have cost them in the past - if they want independence, give it to them... go on, take it, its yours... 

However, with independence comes the burden of looking after yourself, ALL our military hardware is coming back, we are not going to gift them an army, navy and air force that they can bomb us with in a few years when some Gaelic nutter on a power trip decides to 'act hard' 

We also get our currency back, they didn't even want it before and insisted on printing their own bank notes so fuck them, they are pretty happy for the horrible English bastards notes to be spent up there though... 

They have spent too long hating us now, let them get on with it and suffer the consequences.

Oh you'll let us have our own country will you? thanks! And people wonder why there's anti English sentiment in Scotland. Better together my arse.

TO be fair Hipster - Scotland is part of Great Britain, thus is 'ours' 

...Once you get your independence, It will become 'yours' 

The same as your new currency, your new defense forces and Government will be... 

Why don't you be a proper Scotsman and, instead of supporting one of them 'shitty English clubs' ... support one of the better, massive Scottish ones in your trademark apathetic way instead...

@Reebok_Rebel wrote:

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:

@Reebok_Rebel wrote:

@wanderlust wrote:The pound is Scottish so why on earth would they even consider changing it?

So nobody is slightly concerned that the vast majority of UK North Sea Oil and Gas interests are in Scottish Waters? As are what's left of the British fishing waters.
Or that nuclear facilities will have to be rehoused in England? (that should go down well with the English who are without exception NIMBYs)

Scotland already has a defence force and has historically been a significant contributor in terms of manpower. And why should they give up the weapons RR? They've paid for them just as much as the English. 

Needs to be thought through but I must say that Westminster seriously needs to wake up and put a sensible response together.

Explain how the pound is Scottish? Unless your referring to 'sterling' being British - but its the same thing anyway... 

Scotland has cost us just as much money as we have cost them in the past - if they want independence, give it to them... go on, take it, its yours... 

However, with independence comes the burden of looking after yourself, ALL our military hardware is coming back, we are not going to gift them an army, navy and air force that they can bomb us with in a few years when some Gaelic nutter on a power trip decides to 'act hard' 

We also get our currency back, they didn't even want it before and insisted on printing their own bank notes so fuck them, they are pretty happy for the horrible English bastards notes to be spent up there though... 

They have spent too long hating us now, let them get on with it and suffer the consequences.

Oh you'll let us have our own country will you? thanks! And people wonder why there's anti English sentiment in Scotland. Better together my arse.

TO be fair Hipster - Scotland is part of Great Britain, thus is 'ours' 

...Once you get your independence, It will become 'yours' 

The same as your new currency, your new defense forces and Government will be... 

Why don't you be a proper Scotsman and, instead of supporting one of them 'shitty English clubs' ... support one of the better, massive Scottish ones in your trademark apathetic way instead...

haha exxxxxactly.

Looks like you got a bite Rebel! 
Ffs you'll need your passport at the Macron Hipster. We need to get the name changed its part jock!!!!

riiiiight.

@wanderlust wrote:Bank of Scotland is the Halifax

If I remember correctly  as I had shares with Halifax, it was BOS who took over the Halifax. It was called HBOS cos they couldn't call it BOSH for obvious reasons! I stand to be corrected on this?!

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:riiiiight.

That's not English, is that your forthcoming new language?

If only they had a vote!

Hope they get it, then build a fuck off wall and leave them to suffer.

A wall like this from the movie Doomsday?



or like your own wall?

No BIGGER

Like this with armed guards.

But Hipster wouldn't be able to get to the Macron every week.

No need to answer my ? Hipster, below does it!
Seems rather ill thought out don't you think?
No doubt silence will prevail?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29052665

Whats the question? Why can't people who don't live in Scotland vote? Well I suspect It's fairly self explanatory, it's for the people of Scotland to decide their future. I'm sure there are some disgruntled Scots living outside the borders that would like to vote but sorry... 

and no I don't think it's "ill thought out" I'm interested in what the people of Scotland think. 

More English arrogance on this thread 48 year old men saying they'd "leave us to suffer." It's this kind of mature, pulsating debate that leads many to vote yes.

The question I asked and hinted at do you consider it acceptable for "tourists" to vote? And you obviously do!
Ill thought as I said, keep that  bell ringing.
Another little snippet re. currency, the Governor of the Bank of England said that it is impractical for Scotland to use the pound. Shouldn't this have been sorted out prior to the vote or is it just trivia?
Perhaps Mr Salmond is in a rush to crown his wife the fist lady?

The following groups of people can register to vote in the referendum:

• British citizens resident in Scotland.
  
• Qualifying Commonwealth citizens resident in Scotland. This means Commonwealth citizens who either have leave to remain in the UK or do not require such leave, and are resident in Scotland.
  
• Citizens of the Republic of Ireland and other EU countries resident in Scotland.
  
• Members of the House of Lords resident in Scotland.
  
• Service/Crown personnel serving in the UK or overseas in the Armed Forces or with Her Majesty’s Government who are registered to vote in Scotland.
  

But nobody in England?
Who may be working in England?

Why would they vote? 

and the currency question has been answered read the white paper there are many currency options.

@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Why would they vote? 

and the currency question has been answered read the white paper there are many currency options.

And why not? I'm quite sure they would have Scotland's interests at heart more than say Zbigniew on a two year posting? Obviously you don't think so.

The rouble looks favourite on the money front!

You keep editing your posts after I reply.

I've said what I think, It's about self determination as it always is with these kind of votes, the people of Scotland should decide it's future and I think thats fair. End of story really.

I edited one post, not to catch you out but to prevent having to pull too many teeth in multiple posts.

So if Scotland decides to the disband Great Britain and the United Kingdom agreements what will England, Wales and NI be called in the future?

We'll need a catchy name, but I'm struggling.

Fairly Big Britain?
The Slightly at Loggerheads Kingdom?

And what will our currency be called?

If FBB is allowed to retain the pound sterling - which is currently the currency of an entity that won't exist in the future (It's called the GBP according to Jah) what will that be called?
The EWNI pound? NIWE? WENI?WNIE? 

Scottish Pound will presumably be called the Scottish Pound a la Egyptian Pound.

The Olympics team will be f****d - what will that be called?

We need a catchy name for the alliance between England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

The Kingdom Of Engwani