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31Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Tue Jan 07 2014, 10:45

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
They have nippy wingers (which isn't good for our carthorse FBs) and Reid spraying it around so they're a force on the break.

Perhaps this is one game where it night be worthwhile man-marking Reid with someone like Medo to get in his face all day long.
Negative I know but in true Sun Tzu style we'd be taking out their most influential player by sacrificing one of our least.

That would put the case for two holding mids though which wouldn't be very popular with many fans.

32Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Tue Jan 07 2014, 13:47

luckyPeterpiper

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Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Forget what's popular with the fans. Pick the damned team that we started with against Blackpool and go after Forest from minute one to minute ninety-whatever-the-ref-added-on-for-injury-time and don't give them time to think much less play their own game.

If it ain't working at half time change it, that's what subs are for. Seriously, we're at home to an admittedly decent Nottingham Forest side but we're not playing Bayern or Barca here so let's stop worrying so much about what they can do and start letting our players play to their strengths and in the positions that work best for them. Sure we need to pay some attention to the opposition and adapt our approach to negate their strengths but not at the cost of cowering like frightened rabbits in a corner. Let's go after them for once, put the away team on the back foot and don't let them get on the front all afternoon. We can do it, I believe we have the players capable of doing just that but Dougie has GOT to wake up and realise that from now till the end of the season EVERY game is a cup final, a must win match. This defensive mindset he uses week in week out will NOT work against Forest, they'll love having the time and space to play the way they want and they'll kill us if we try to soak up pressure and hit on the break. 

So I have two score predictions based on team selection and formation. 

Same team and formation as Blackpool we win 2 -0

Same team and formation as usual we lose 1 - 4 

We have to go at them, we won't have a chance if we don't and they will absolutely spank us if we try the usual DF way.

33Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Tue Jan 07 2014, 19:40

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
Freedman out, LPP in, you seem to know more about tactics than that clown.

34Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Tue Jan 07 2014, 20:48

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
LPP may be right, but every Bolton fan knows it will be back to playing for a 0-0 draw.

35Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Tue Jan 07 2014, 21:21

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Forget what's popular with the fans. Pick the damned team that we started with against Blackpool and go after Forest from minute one to minute ninety-whatever-the-ref-added-on-for-injury-time and don't give them time to think much less play their own game.

If it ain't working at half time change it, that's what subs are for. Seriously, we're at home to an admittedly decent Nottingham Forest side but we're not playing Bayern or Barca here so let's stop worrying so much about what they can do and start letting our players play to their strengths and in the positions that work best for them. Sure we need to pay some attention to the opposition and adapt our approach to negate their strengths but not at the cost of cowering like frightened rabbits in a corner. Let's go after them for once, put the away team on the back foot and don't let them get on the front all afternoon. We can do it, I believe we have the players capable of doing just that but Dougie has GOT to wake up and realise that from now till the end of the season EVERY game is a cup final, a must win match. This defensive mindset he uses week in week out will NOT work against Forest, they'll love having the time and space to play the way they want and they'll kill us if we try to soak up pressure and hit on the break. 

So I have two score predictions based on team selection and formation. 

Same team and formation as Blackpool we win 2 -0

Same team and formation as usual we lose 1 - 4 

We have to go at them, we won't have a chance if we don't and they will absolutely spank us if we try the usual DF way.
agree 100% LPP  :clap:

36Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Tue Jan 07 2014, 21:24

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:LPP may be right, but every Bolton fan knows it will be back to playing for a 0-0 draw.
I fear you will be proven right Nat; I wish I had more confidence that the dug-ster would dig himself out of the foxhole he usually plays in and start seeing that this squad can't play his way, they're not that type of player and never will be. Not only that with our back four we HAVE to be more attacking, we almost know we'll concede at least one against the better teams in this division so we need to score goals for even one point let alone all three. 

I hope and pray he will look at the Blackpool match and think 'a-ha, so that's how to use these guys' and do it from now on but I fear he'll look at it and go 'oh no, we were far too forward and forest are really Barcelona in disguise so we'd better park a bus on our own six yard line this week' because the more time goes by the more I'm becoming convinced he's Gary Megson's secret love child with Basil Fawlty.

37Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Wed Jan 08 2014, 19:28

aaron_bwfc

aaron_bwfc
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I'm not going to get my hopes up that we will not allow them any time on the ball what so ever from the start because if we let the likes of Yeovil pass it around for fun then it's not suddenly going to happen against a Forest side who IMO will play us off the park.

Andy Reid as usual against us in a Forest shirt will run the show and if the game goes how I think it will then we will be 2-0 at half time.

38Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Thu Jan 09 2014, 12:00

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Ref watch: Naylor takes the whistle

Michael Naylor will officiate Wanderers’ clash with Nottingham Forest this weekend.

Now in his seventh season of professional refereeing, the Yorkshire based official has taken charge of 20 games so far this term across the Championship, League One, League Two and various cup competitions.

Having distributed 39 yellow cards and just a single red during the current campaign, Naylor last oversaw a Bolton game when the Whites secured a point in a 1-1 draw with Cardiff City back in April.

Barry Cropp and David Richardson will run the line, while Darren Bond will be the fourth official.

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39Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Thu Jan 09 2014, 12:02

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Opposition watch: Nottingham Forest

A fixture which has yielded 31 wins apiece for either side since the first meeting back in 1882, Wanderers’ clashes with Nottingham Forest are rarely dour affairs.

A match-up which always produces excitement - just six of the 85 games between the teams have failed to produce a goal with Forest securing a 3-0 victory at the City Ground back in August - this weekend’s fixture looks set to be a cracker at the Reebok.

With both managers having seen their sides denied a play-off berth by Leicester City on the final day of last season, Dougie Freedman and his opposite number Billy Davies will certainly not be underestimating the threat which each team pose.

The Bolton boss in particular will undoubtedly be fully aware of the challenge which his side face come kick off this weekend however, with Davies’ Reds entering the clash on the back of an impressive 5-0 victory over Premier League outfit West Ham United in their FA Cup third round clash.

Having enjoyed a solid start to their domestic campaign – one which has left them residing in fifth position in the Sky Bet Championship league standings with 40 points accumulated from 24 games – the future looks promising for Forest as they bid to make a return to the top flight after a 15 year exile.

Just four league defeats suffered so far this term and ten wins secured including four on their travels have allowed the City Ground faithful to dream of Premier League football once more – one which has been within their grasp on no less than three occasions in the past five years.

After missing out on a top six finish in such dramatic fashion alongside Wanderers last term however, Forest moved to strengthen their squad with the likes of Jamie Mackie and Kelvin Wilson agreeing deals with the club alongside the loan acquisition of highly rated Chelsea youngster Nathaniel Chalobah.

Davies’ thriftiness in the transfer market appears to have reaped dividends thus far, with the Reds looking a force to be reckoned with during the current campaign.

The form of experienced midfielder Andy Reid has undoubtedly played a crucial part in Forest’s early season success, with the former Sunderland front man currently leading the line as the club’s top goal scorer with eight strikes in all competitions.

A player who has boasted a reputation as a reliable figure in the middle of the park throughout his career, Reid has surpassed expectations this term by taking on a more attacking role within the team – one which has recently secured the club’s captain a contract extension.

Despite their impressive early season form however, Forest make the trip to BL6 having failed to emerge victorious on Bolton soil since October 1991 – a statistic that Wanderers supporters will be hoping continues come kick off on Saturday afternoon.

Paul Taylor – Nottingham Forest reporter for the Nottingham Post

“Over the Christmas period, it is safe to say that Nottingham Forest’s season has sprung back into life.

“Following a slight stutter in form, when it came to securing wins at least, Billy Davies’ side have subsequently found their consistency, culminating in a morale boosting 5-0 win over Premier League West Ham in the FA Cup.

“Yes, Sam Allardyce’s side included five under-21 players and a couple of senior figures who were making their return from injury - it was something of a makeshift Hammers team.

“But you can only beat what is put in front of you and Forest certainly did that in emphatic fashion, with Jamie Paterson’s hat-trick the catalyst for victory amid an impressive team performance.

“Forest are now unbeaten in eight games, with victories secured over two of their promotion rivals, in QPR and Leeds in recent weeks and it feels as though things are starting to fall into place.

“A new striker remains at the top of Billy Davies’ shopping list, with a habit of missing chances the only obvious possible Achilles heel in the Forest squad currently.

“That cost them at Reading when, after carving out a host of good opportunities with some quality football, they failed to capitalise and saw the home side net a 94th minute equaliser, in a 1-1 draw.

“Tying Andy Reid to a new contract in the build-up to today’s game was a significant boost for the Reds, who will be hoping the midfielder continues his good record against Bolton – having netted in all of the last three meetings between the sides.

“As for what the score is likely to be this weekend, much may depend on whether Forest again make the most of their chances, as they so emphatically did against the Hammers.

“Forest are very hard to beat under Davies and do not concede many, so perhaps an avalanche of goals is unlikely, but it would not be a shock to see them secure a narrow win over Dougie Freedman’s side.”

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40Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Fri Jan 10 2014, 19:22

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

41Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 14:05

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
BWFC team to face Nottingham Forest: Lonergan, Baptiste, Mills, Knight, Ream, Spearing, Danns, M Davies, Lee, Ngog, Beckford

subs: Lee-Barrett, Moritz, Medo, Pratley, White, Eagles, Bolger

42Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 14:15

Guest


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Disappointed about Medo, also worried we're going to get over run in midfield with 2 up top. Fair play to Dougie though, it's a brave decision and one which most fans doubted he'd make proving again that he is tactically flexible.

43Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 14:56

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
two up top, he's learning, no medo though, we could see him later on.

44Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 17:24

Biggie

Biggie
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Did eagles not get on today? Should he have?

https://boltonnuts.forumotion.co.uk

45Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 17:46

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
No and yes.

CYL needs a change of scenery

46Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 17:50

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
CYL needs to be removed ASAP, not good enough, with a very negative attitude.

47Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 18:06

Banks of the Croal

Banks of the Croal
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
Thought Chungy had a poor first half but was much better second half.

Thought it was a good game, expecially second half.

Remember at least two outstanding saves from Lonergan, we ain't going to get in the play offs, so I'd settle for the same effort and commitment, that was shown in the second half for the remainder of the season.

48Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 18:12

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Does anyone have any news on Beckford?

Saw he came off after 30mins in the first half so presuming he's injured?

49Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 19:49

scottjames30

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Nat Lofthouse
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50Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 19:51

scottjames30

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51Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 20:32

doffcocker

doffcocker
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
A lot of people will say we played well and it was down to playing two up front, but we spent the majority of the match with Ngog up there alone in fairness.

Against Blackpool we had two forwards and two players out wide. Today, we started with two forwards and Lee as a lone wide player. We tried this a number of times earlier in the season to no avail, so I wasn't overwhelmed by the team news, not forgetting the decision to drop Medo.

Obviously something was different today, as we'd normally have gone to pieces against Forest, and we were actually well in it at times. I think it was more of a winning mentality, particularly after equalising.

52Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 22:21

Hip Priest

Hip Priest
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
I thought we were great today. Full marks to Duggie for going for it again and I hope he's learned something from the last two performances. We actually have a decent team and we look a much better side when going for it rather than concentrating on trying to suffocate everything the opposition does. We also look much less like conceding and the crowd get behind the team much more rather than getting on their backs. Great match to watch today and Duggie gets a cheer at the final whistle instead of booing. I even found that for once I could listen to his after match comments without wanting to strangle the bugger. Well done Duggie.



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53Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 22:30

Culcheth_White

Culcheth_White
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I thought we were great today. Full marks to Duggie for going for it again and I hope he's learned something from the last two performances. We actually have a decent team and we look a much better side when going for it rather concentrating on trying to suffocate everything the opposition does. We also look much less like conceding and the crowd get behind the team much more rather than getting on their backs. Great match to watch today and Duggie gets a cheer at the final whistle instead of booing. I even found that for once I could listen to his after match comments without wanting to strangle the bugger. Well done Duggie.
Good post. Let's just go for the jugular, we really shouldn't be afraid of any team in this League. We just need a couple of decent defenders and we won't be far off. We have some of the best offensive players in this League, in Mark Davies and Moritz etc.

Dougie can try his fancy tactics in the Premier if he get's us there.

54Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 22:32

Tigermin


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Good performance today,positive attitude from the off and the crowd ie us responded with passion for the first time for a long time. Mavies was magnificent,that was definately a pre injury performance ! Chungy was strangely ineffective until the last 15 mins or so ??? Spearing ?? not great again. Dare I say Knightmare had a great game !!! Manns put in a real shift.Baptiste,Mills and Ream did well. Pratley stayed on the bench which was the best fucking decision the Jock made !!!

55Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sat Jan 11 2014, 23:45

Hip Priest

Hip Priest
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
I totally agree with you there Tiger. People are quick to criticize his every mistake but Zat Knight was EXCELLENT today. Long may it continue.

56Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sun Jan 12 2014, 08:28

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
i thought it was a good performance yesterday, it wasn't really a 442 as he was playing Spearing as a holding player and the other 3 played narrow in front of him, which doesn't really suit Chungy.

We kept the ball better than we have done for a while, but my biggest concern is our lack of strikers, none on the bench and if Beckford is out for a while we need to get Eaves or Sordell back or get another loan striker in (not Mason though!).

I thought Ream and in particular Neil Danns were excellent yesterday, all in all a much better performance but as i said already a lack of strikers is a real concern

57Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sun Jan 12 2014, 09:29

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote: We just need a couple of decent defenders and we won't be far off. We have some of the best offensive players in this League, in Mark Davies and Moritz etc.

Dougie can try his fancy tactics in the Premier if he get's us there.

 ::mad:: 

I trust this is a WUM post.

Mark Davies did bugger all for the majority of the match, Moritz is another who blows hot and (very) cold, the strikers are pants and wing play virtually non-existent.

It was another disjointed and, frankly, boring performance that had me pining for the days of John Thomas, Trevor Morgan and Jeff Chandler.

58Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sun Jan 12 2014, 11:33

Triumph


Tony Kelly
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Cracking game for the most, Shame Beckford went off, I fail to see what Spearing is supposed to be doing though apart from pointing here and there and not picking up his own man plus some dreadful crossing of the Ball, Had Beckford stayed on his pace would have won the game for us. Still smiling though.

59Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sun Jan 12 2014, 11:40

aaron_bwfc

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Average first half from both teams but Forest edged it I think, typical start to a second half were we seemed to just switch off for the first 10 minutes at the back.

Once we got level their was only one team looking to win IMO, the time wasting tactics from Davies and his men were fucking ridiculos and they were lucky not to have at least one man sent off.

I'm amazed Chungy didn't get brought off as it was clear to see he wasn't up for it yesterday, Eagles would have been a better bet IMO.

60Bolton 1-1 Forest - Page 2 Empty Re: Bolton 1-1 Forest Sun Jan 12 2014, 12:09

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Average first half from both teams but Forest edged it I think, typical start to a second half were we seemed to just switch off for the first 10 minutes at the back.

Once we got level their was only one team looking to win IMO, the time wasting tactics from Davies and his men were fucking ridiculos and they were lucky not to have at least one man sent off.

I'm amazed Chungy didn't get brought off as it was clear to see he wasn't up for it yesterday, Eagles would have been a better bet IMO.
 Forest spent most of the last half hour wasting time and committing foul after foul especially that big lump Halford.

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