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1Goran Popov Empty Goran Popov on Tue Feb 11 2014, 18:52

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West Brom story defender Goran Popov hopes to seal a loan move to Bolton before the weekend despite the transfer being called off dramatically last night.

The Macedonia international, who is out of favour at The Hawthorns, is hopeful of joining the Trotters before their Championship game at Millwall on Saturday.

The move looks likely to go ahead despite a dramatic 11th-hour hitch last night that saw Popov return to the West Midlands from the Bolton training ground.

The Baggies agreed a loan with Wanderers for the 29-year-old but, with Popov already on loan at The Hawthorns from Dynamo Kiev, the Premier League and Football League refused to sanction the transfer.

However, further talks have taken place today and the clubs are now confident they can complete the deal.

Popov had travelled to Lancashire to complete the move but was forced to board a train back to the Midlands when it did not go ahead.

The hitch was caused by regulations stating Football League sides can only loan players from English clubs outside the transfer window.

Bolton argued they were loaning Popov from Albion but the authorities were concerned he was technically being loaned from his Ukranian parent club.

The parties now appear to have made headway through the legal minefield and Popov should complete the move this week, although the Trotters had hoped to have him in their team for tonight’s home game against Burnley.

They have been without a recognised left-back since Marc Tierney broke his leg in October.

Popov returned to The Hawthorns last summer for a second season-long loan but has made just two Premier League appearances, the last of which was an error-strewn game in the 2-2 draw with Villa at The Hawthorns in Novemver.

He has not figured in a matchday squad under new boss Pepe Mel.

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2Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Tue Feb 11 2014, 19:17

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Anybody else ecstatic at the prospect of loaning an error-prone Macedonian international?

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3Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Tue Feb 11 2014, 19:51

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Don't diss the Macedonian Massive.

Alexander the Great was a Macedonian.

And he conquered most of the known world by the age of 30.

In a frock.

Not sure if he could play left-back, though......

4Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Tue Feb 11 2014, 23:36

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As if Dougie would play him at left-back!

5Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 00:44

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.....and he boarded a train back to the Midlands. He must be insignificant if he got the train. More like a chauffeured limo

6Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 09:14

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So now we're borrowing a player from a club who borrowed the player from somewhere else and decided he isn't what they want?  Shocked 

I'm not exactly filled with confidence by the error-strewn performance comments in the article either.  :wtf2: 

But then I suppose since I have ZERO confidence in the chairman and manager now this matters very little. Even if we get this guy and he turns out to be world class Dougie will soon have him playing like a Sunday League player. The very last of any faith I had in the club's current hierarchy died last night. We could transplant the entire Barcelona 1st team to The Reebok and still Dougie would find a way to take us down.

7Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 13:03

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8Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 13:30

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Oh joy........

9Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 13:38

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Ah a player who spits at other players - we haven't had one of those in a while.

10Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 13:40

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Just out...

Popov was due to join the Trotters on Monday but the move was blocked by the Premier League and Football League who were uncertain whether the loan was allowed.
However, more talks took place yesterday and the clubs are [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  of finalising a transfer.
Popov, who has played just twice in the Premier League this [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  is on loan at Albion from Dynamo Kiev and, while English rules allow loan players to be ‘sub-let’, they do not permit loans from foreign clubs outside the transfer window.
The authorities claimed on Monday that the move was against the rules as Popov would effectively be loaned to Bolton from his Ukranian parent club.
However, the Trotters appear to have convinced the powers-that-be that the move would qualify as a domestic ‘emergency loan’ as their agreement is with the Baggies.

11Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 13:45

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So now we're getting sloppy thirds?

Dougie out.

12Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 13:54

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Baggies chant:
Popov the Albion man,
he lives in a caravan, 

he looks like a killer and he hates the villa, 

he's Popov the Albion man 

poop poop.

13Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 14:08

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14Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 14:22

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Will Popov make a difference? I'm not sure as Ream has done OK (not great but OK) and Popov looks like a player who a bit slow and I would imagine prone to bookings/reds.
But if by playing him, Ream is freed up and Dougie has no excuse not to trust the back 4,  then new possibilities open up, especially with Beckford coming back. Could Dougie buckle under the pressure and go for a 442 with Beckford and Juke up front?

15Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 16:13

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Will Popov make a difference? I'm not sure as Ream has done OK (not great but OK) and Popov looks like a player who a bit slow and I would imagine prone to bookings/reds.
But if by playing him, Ream is freed up and Dougie has no excuse not to trust the back 4,  then new possibilities open up, especially with Beckford coming back. Could Dougie buckle under the pressure and go for a 442 with Beckford and Juke up front?
Not in this lifetime wander. By now even his most patient of backers should see he won't change his tactics an iota. In fact I'd be very surprised to see Popov play at all in the next few weeks. Dougie will tell us he's not "match fit" as the lad has only played twice for the baggies this season. He may make the bench but don't expect to see him on the pitch before April is my gut feeling.

16Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 16:43

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Nixon tweeting Popov deal off.

17Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 17:28

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Can't say i'm surprised, it was a bit of a complex deal apparantly.

To be honest though he's had since fucking october to sort a left back out, I refuse to believe their isn't one half decent full back to pick from on loan.

18Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Wed Feb 12 2014, 20:36

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Nixon tweeting Popov deal off.
What a surprise. Dougie will now say it's not his fault that we don't have a left back and Phil will blame the FA for being mean to us. The fact is a Left Back should have been a priority the moment Alonso left, how in hell can you start a season with just one to begin with? I don't blame Tierney for getting injured, I blame the chairman and manager for not having someone in place to back that position up. Please don't mention Dawson and McNaughton because frankly I'm bored with hearing about them when a village idiot could have seen we weren't going to get them in summer OR January. 

Phil and Dougie are a shambolic partnership that is going to put us in League One next season and perhaps even League Two the season after. Deja vu anyone?

19Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Thu Feb 13 2014, 17:48

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Nixon tweeting Popov deal off.
What a surprise. Dougie will now say it's not his fault that we don't have a left back and Phil will blame the FA for being mean to us. The fact is a Left Back should have been a priority the moment Alonso left, how in hell can you start a season with just one to begin with? I don't blame Tierney for getting injured, I blame the chairman and manager for not having someone in place to back that position up. Please don't mention Dawson and McNaughton because frankly I'm bored with hearing about them when a village idiot could have seen we weren't going to get them in summer OR January. 

Phil and Dougie are a shambolic partnership that is going to put us in League One next season and perhaps even League Two the season after. Deja vu anyone?
So which available and affordable left back would you go for? Personally, I'm struggling to think of one unless we were willing to gamble on a league 2 player. You'd think that there must be someone in our price range, but I can't think of one.

20Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Thu Feb 13 2014, 18:00

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
So which available and affordable left back would you go for? Personally, I'm struggling to think of one unless we were willing to gamble on a league 2 player.

The trick is to be able to spot that League 2 player that can make the step up.

Dougie couldn't spot potential in a player if he was the lovechild of a Ronaldo/Usain Bolt one night stand.

21Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Thu Feb 13 2014, 18:52

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Head to Blackpool and keep going. Fleetwood where get that feel good factor watching a game of proper football.
Ask for Charlie Taylor see if he fancies a game at left back where he be will let loose to overlap whenever he fancies a jog up the park.

22Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Thu Feb 13 2014, 19:29

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There must be a left back that is'nt fancied at Milwall, lets face it we've taken most of the other fuckers who can't get in their team.

23Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Thu Feb 13 2014, 20:50

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
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So which available and affordable left back would you go for? Personally, I'm struggling to think of one unless we were willing to gamble on a league 2 player.

The trick is to be able to spot that League 2 player that can make the step up.

Dougie couldn't spot potential in a player if he was the lovechild of a Ronaldo/Usain Bolt one night stand.
 lol! 

what utter balls.

24Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Thu Feb 13 2014, 21:09

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I think Old Garslime has been hearing the rumours about the real brains of the old Palace management team being Tony Popovic and he's gone out and got himself confused! Twat! "HE'S IN AUSTRALIA YOU BAFOON!!!!". While we're on the subject of bafoons, our next Chairman after Big Ed wields the axe should definitely be Boris Johnson! He'll be just as crap as our current one, but we won't hate him quite as much!

25Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Thu Feb 13 2014, 23:31

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It's off! Bolton Wanderers frustrated in bid to sign West Brom's Macedonian Goran Popov

Wanderers have failed in their efforts to bring West Brom defender Goran Popov to the Reebok on loan.

An appeal against the Premier League’s decision to block the Macedonian’s move from the Hawthorns was deemed unsuccessful yesterday.

And while the Whites have the option of taking their legal fight further with the footballing authorities, it is understood Dougie Freedman is now keen to switch targets in an effort to bring someone in before this weekend’s game at Millwall.

Popov is currently on loan for the season at West Brom from Dynamo Kiev and would have been allowed out had the deal occurred in the transfer window.

But because it is happening in the loan window the Premier League have deemed it an international transfer – even though it is effectively being conducted between two domestic clubs.

It has proved another frustrating chapter in Freedman’s exhaustive search for a left-back, which stretches back to the moment Kevin McNaughton returned to Cardiff City on Boxing Day.

Tim Ream has since filled in with Alex Baptiste shifting over to the right, but while the American has worked hard, he has been targeted by opposition sides as he is clearly playing out of position.

To make matters worse, Wanderers will be coming up against Liam Feeney this weekend – the right-sided winger who proved such a hit in his short loan spell at the Reebok earlier this season.

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26Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Fri Feb 14 2014, 00:53

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Simple question, had the clueless Jock cunt gone for him in January he would be here, erm why the fuck did he not go for him in January then? fuck me I am surprised he manages to find the Reebok regularly, he is one stupid prick.

27Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Fri Feb 14 2014, 02:02

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Maybe his club wanted to sell him in January and told us that if no one came in for him we could have him as a loan once the window was shut.

There's always two sides to every story remember.



28Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Fri Feb 14 2014, 08:51

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Maybe his club wanted to sell him in January and told us that if no one came in for him we could have him as a loan once the window was shut.

There's always two sides to every story remember.



That cannot be the case I'm afraid sluffy. West Brom don't own Popov, he's on loan to them from Kiev so he isn't theirs to sell anyway. Kiev would have been unable to sell him to us as he would then have been registered with THREE different clubs in 12 calendar months, something FIFA have to sanction.

Also Dougie appears (and I say appears because he MIGHT not) to have been fixated on either McNaughton or Dawson when it was obvious neither man would be back here. It seems to me that we're at the point where Dougie has a list of left backs who aren't currently getting a game and he's either blindly sticking a pin in it or he's put them all in a tombola drum and drawing one out at random. 

What I can't understand is why West Brom have kept Popov, it's obvious he's not in their plans and isn't working so why not send him back at Christmas THEN we might have been able to do a direct deal with his parent club. That said, given he's only played TWICE this season he can't be all that good, especially when you consider WBA were apparently more than willing to shift him onto someone else.

29Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Fri Feb 14 2014, 09:05

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Maybe his club wanted to sell him in January and told us that if no one came in for him we could have him as a loan once the window was shut.

There's always two sides to every story remember.



That cannot be the case I'm afraid sluffy. West Brom don't own Popov, he's on loan to them from Kiev so he isn't theirs to sell anyway. Kiev would have been unable to sell him to us as he would then have been registered with THREE different clubs in 12 calendar months, something FIFA have to sanction.

Also Dougie appears (and I say appears because he MIGHT not) to have been fixated on either McNaughton or Dawson when it was obvious neither man would be back here. It seems to me that we're at the point where Dougie has a list of left backs who aren't currently getting a game and he's either blindly sticking a pin in it or he's put them all in a tombola drum and drawing one out at random. 

What I can't understand is why West Brom have kept Popov, it's obvious he's not in their plans and isn't working so why not send him back at Christmas THEN we might have been able to do a direct deal with his parent club. That said, given he's only played TWICE this season he can't be all that good, especially when you consider WBA were apparently more than willing to shift him onto someone else.
Surely it's nothing to do with West Brom wanting him or not - it's to do with the ruling by the Premier League isn't it?
Natasha was right in saying it's a decent idea to try to spot a lower league LB who might step up, but I disagree with her assessment of Dougie's ability to spot a talent. 
Beggars can't be choosers and I haven't seen any evidence to suggest that Dougie hasn't scoured the planet to find a suitable LB within the budget. I certainly wouldn't have thought of Popov as an option.
Not sure he was focused on Dawson and McNaughton either - he appears to have made enquiries but it was the fans who were driving that agenda.

30Goran Popov Empty Re: Goran Popov on Fri Feb 14 2014, 09:52

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Maybe his club wanted to sell him in January and told us that if no one came in for him we could have him as a loan once the window was shut.

There's always two sides to every story remember.



That cannot be the case I'm afraid sluffy. West Brom don't own Popov, he's on loan to them from Kiev so he isn't theirs to sell anyway.

Fair enough but I was really only just trying to make the point that non of us know the other 'half' to the story.

Common sense should tell us that there must be reasons that prevents him doing some of the stuff he wants - I guess many of them are because of the clubs financial position.

I can understand people having a pop at him for the things he has control of - team selection, tactics, substitutions, etc - but blaming him for everything and anything - without knowing the facts of the matter - is taking things a bit too far imo.

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