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1the right to anonymity? Empty the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 16:26

Norpig

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A MAN accused of raping a child has been cleared after a jury took just 10 minutes to reach a verdict.

Now his legal team have called for defendants of such charges to be granted anonymity until they are found guilty.

Jonathon Brown always strenuously denied preying on the girl during the trial at Bolton Crown Court, which lasted for eight days.

The jury returned not guilty verdicts on eight counts of raping a child, four counts of sexual assault and one count of causing a child to watch a sexual act.

On Monday, the jury had been instructed to return not guilty verdicts on a further two counts of raping the child and one of sexual assault.

After the hearing, a spokesman for Mr Brown’s legal team said his life had been “turned upside down” since the allegations were made.

The spokesman said: “On day three of an eight-day trial the child, who cannot be named for legal reasons, gave conflicting and nonsensical accounts about the allegations to the jury.

"This calls into question once again the ramifications of the accused being named before the verdict is announced.

“Mr Brown and his family have been through hell and despite this verdict, the ‘stain’ of being accused of a sexual offence will remain with him for the rest of his life.

“There is a specific stigma associated with sexual allegations that never leave the accused, even when acquitted.

“Mr Brown has been dragged through the court system, had threats made against him and has been beaten up."

Mr Brown, aged 31, of Church Road, Smithills, was accused of making the girl watch pornographic films before raping and sexually assaulting her.

But under examination by Saul Brody, who was defending Mr Brown, he denied ever committing any of the offences alleged.


Mr Brody said: "Did you ever talk to the child about men and women having sex?"

Mr Brown replied: "I would never say anything about sexual matters or anything to do with that sort of stuff."

Mr Brody also asked Mr Brown if he repeatedly raped and sexually assaulted the girl.


     
Mr Brown said: "It never happened."

Asked if he forced the young girl to perform sex acts on him, Mr Brown said: "It is all lies, every single bit of it, all lies. Every single bit of this is lies."

2the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 16:30

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
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Everyone should have the right to anonymity until they are proven to have committed a crime.

3the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 16:31

Guest


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Natasha Whittam wrote:Everyone should have the right to anonymity until they are proven to have committed a crime.

This.

Bloody hell, twice in two days.....I feel uncomfortable.

4the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 16:32

Norpig

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this poor chap will still be left with the stigma of being involved in this for years to come, just seems unfair to me

5the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 16:36

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
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Norpig wrote:this poor chap will still be left with the stigma of being involved in this for years to come, just seems unfair to me

Couldn't agree more, as a lot of people will presume there was no smoke without fire.

I was once accused of stealing a twirl bar from Morrisons in Chorley by a jumped up security guard. They had no proof so nothing happened but 5 years later when I went for a job interview at Bang Bang it was brought up and used against me.

6the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 16:47

scottjames30

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What about people like the Yorkshire ripper, or Fred the weather man?

7the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 16:48

Natasha Whittam

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scottjames30 wrote:What about people like the Yorkshire ripper, or Fred the weather man?

I think you missed the point of this thread Scott.

8the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 17:22

Reebok Trotter

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scottjames30 wrote:What about people like the Yorkshire ripper, or Fred the weather man?

Once they are found guilty they can then be exposed.

9the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 20:52

scottjames30

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Reebok Trotter wrote:
scottjames30 wrote:What about people like the Yorkshire ripper, or Fred the weather man?

Once they are found guilty they can then be exposed.

But everyone knew that they were guilty before they went to court.

10the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 21:05

Norpig

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bloody hell will someone explain basic law to Scott Rumpole please?  Very Happy

11the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 21:31

Guest


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It's an act.

Nobody could actually be that stupid and survive to grow into adulthood without killing themselves with a tin-opener or a toothbrush.

Just ignore him.

12the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 21:34

scottjames30

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Nobody can struggle putting a fence up, surly not.

Unless they're stupid as hell, I ignored you .

13the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 21:38

Guest


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You're only still on here because I permit it - remember that.

And those panels were big and unwieldy.

I did Politics at University not Putting Fences Up.

14the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 21:42

scottjames30

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1. Wrong, my coming back had nothing at all to do with you.

2. My heart bleeds for you.

3. Never trust  political personal.

15the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 21:45

Guest


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I like apples

16the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 21:46

boltonbonce

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I'm a banana man myself.

17the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 21:46

Guest


Guest

143 for 6.

18the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 21:49

Guest


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I'm watching storage wars. Dave hester is a tugboat

19the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 21:51

boltonbonce

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In a past life Bread wanted to be one of the three musketeers,but his fencing was shite. Razz

20the right to anonymity? Empty Re: the right to anonymity? Wed Jul 15 2015, 21:52

scottjames30

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Very Happy

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