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1 Atheism on Wed Dec 28 2016, 18:19

Lard Lad

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Is dead so is evolution. An event will never happen when the odds are less than 1in10 to the 50th power. Natures chances of producing the 2000 enzymes found in life are 1 in 10 to the 40,000th power so life cannot have had a random beginning but must have come from a cosmic intelligence.

2 Re: Atheism on Wed Dec 28 2016, 18:33

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Well, that's that wrapped up then.

You should phone Brian Cox and tell him.

3 Re: Atheism on Wed Dec 28 2016, 18:42

Norpig

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Jussi Jääskeläinen
Jussi Jääskeläinen
when did David Icke join Nuts?

4 Re: Atheism on Wed Dec 28 2016, 19:22

Boggersbelief

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Norpig wrote:when did David Icke join Nuts?

Stop trying to be funny

5 Re: Atheism on Wed Dec 28 2016, 23:07

Norpig

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Jussi Jääskeläinen
Jussi Jääskeläinen
Boggersbelief wrote:
Norpig wrote:when did David Icke join Nuts?

Stop trying to be funny
 stop trying to wind me up you massive bellend

6 Re: Atheism on Wed Dec 28 2016, 23:36

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
He's actually a tiny bellend.

#ickle

7 Re: Atheism on Wed Dec 28 2016, 23:58

Boggersbelief

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Bread2.0 wrote:He's actually a tiny bellend.

#ickle


Stop trying to be funny

8 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 00:23

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Is that it?

Come on, ffs........?

Scott was a retard but at least he put some effort in.

9 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 00:30

Soul Kitchen

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Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
It's not pc to call somebody a retard! But hey, when you think you're cock of the class you have something to wake up to?! Even if it has been a dream!!

10 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 00:54

Lard Lad

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Brian Cox is a parrot, he says what the BBC tell him to say, they have been brainwashing people for years. He was unable to distinguish between a crocodile and an alligator.

11 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 01:06

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
If I find out that "you know who" is responsible for this shit, I'll be pissed.

(Decided to be more American in my invective for 2017.)

12 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 01:10

Lard Lad

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
When Attenborough goes the job is going to cox and so it goes on.

13 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 01:17

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Lard Lad wrote:When Attenborough goes the job is going to cox and so it goes on.

If you want a serious response, try it again in actual English.

The language used by the rest of us in here.

Crack on.....

14 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 01:21

Lard Lad

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Bread2.0 wrote:Well, that's that wrapped up then.

You should phone Brian Cox and tell him.
He has already had his errors pointed out to him and asked for a comment he refused to answer, no doubt he did not have his paymasters on hand to bail him out.

15 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 01:27

Lard Lad

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Nicolas Anelka
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Bread2.0 wrote:
Lard Lad wrote:When Attenborough goes the job is going to cox and so it goes on.

If you want a serious response, try it again in actual English.

The language used by the rest of us in here.

Crack on.....
A serious response from you is not possible as you are incapable of producing one.

16 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 01:27

Lard Lad

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Goodnight.

17 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 01:27

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker

18 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 08:04

Fabians Right Peg

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Tony Kelly
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Lard Lad wrote:Is dead so is evolution. An event will never happen when the odds are less than 1in10 to the 50th power.

For an event to be completely sure of not happening the odds have to be 0.

Even though 1 in 10 to the 50th power is miniscule given the expanse of time and the size of the universe the occurrence could be likely.

Ignoring the above if you go with intelligent life sparked humanity, where did that come from, the first intelligent life could not have been created by another life form as there would have been nothing before the first one, perhaps it evolved?

19 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 14:03

Boggersbelief

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Nat Lofthouse
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Bread2.0 wrote:Is that it?

Come on, ffs........?

Scott was a retard but at least he put some effort in.

So according to you racism is bad but, taking the piss out of mentally/physically handicapped people isn't

20 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 14:28

Soul Kitchen

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Ivan Campo
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Boggersbelief wrote:
Bread2.0 wrote:Is that it?

Come on, ffs........?

Scott was a retard but at least he put some effort in.

So according to you racism is bad but, taking the piss out of mentally/physically handicapped people isn't
Correct. It's called Breadslaw!

21 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 14:38

Cajunboy

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
I prefer coleslaw.

22 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 15:00

wanderlust

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In the beginning there was nothing  presumably. (If not, what created it?)
Then there was something.
Something created something out of nothing.
Whatever that creative force is/was = God.

The existence or otherwise of God has nothing to do with Atheism which is a human belief structure for those who don't believe in God. So if God is proven to exist, it won't end Atheism as people can and will still believe anything they are capable of believing.

23 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 19:28

Fabians Right Peg

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Tony Kelly
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wanderlust wrote:In the beginning there was nothing  presumably. (If not, what created it?)
Then there was something.
Something created something out of nothing.
Whatever that creative force is/was = God.

The existence or otherwise of God has nothing to do with Atheism which is a human belief structure for those who don't believe in God. So if God is proven to exist, it won't end Atheism as people can and will still believe anything they are capable of believing.

Why must you start with nothing, the laws of physics state that you can not create energy or matter just change it from one form to another so you could argue there was always something and no need for creation.

the existence of nothing is difficult to prove since it can not be measured or quantified as it does not exist?

24 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 19:53

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Tony Kelly
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 Any event that has just one chance in 1050 is dismissed by mathematicians as never happening.
To Quote Don Lindsay, " If you think that the factorial of 52 is big, allow me to point out that thermodynamics involves taking the factorial of numbers like 1030 . And we aren't calculating gee-whiz things, far removed from real life. We're calculating the disorder in a quart of water. Compared to numbers like that, 1050 isn't even a spit in the ocean." 

25 Re: Atheism on Thu Dec 29 2016, 20:13

Sluffy

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Admin

26 Re: Atheism on Fri Dec 30 2016, 08:19

Norpig

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Jussi Jääskeläinen
Jussi Jääskeläinen
my thoughts as well but obviously i'm not as eloquent a speaker as Stephen Fry

27 Re: Atheism on Fri Dec 30 2016, 09:16

Lard Lad

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Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Rubbish the man is an idiot if he thinks what created the universe and time is a man or being that you can reason with or talk to. Time began with the creation of the universe, everything which has a beginning has a cause. The universe requires a cause because it has a beginning. The creator of the universe is not limited by the time dimension it created so it has no beginning in time, simples.

28 Re: Atheism on Fri Dec 30 2016, 09:39

Norpig

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Jussi Jääskeläinen
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try actually listening to it first before spouting rubbish AD. He doesn't believe in God, that's the whole point of his answer  Rolling Eyes

29 Re: Atheism on Fri Dec 30 2016, 10:33

okocha

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
All human logic suggests Fry is right. 

For interesting counter-arguments, "When Bad Things Happen to Good People", by Harold Kushner, and "The Screwtape Letters" by C.S Lewis are well worth a read.

30 Re: Atheism on Fri Dec 30 2016, 10:57

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
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Fry's beliefs are pretty much in line with my own.

I gave up on the Big Fella In The Sky when I was about 8 or 9 after a conversation with the vicar after a Church Parade one Sunday when I was in the Cubs.

I asked him why God had let Mrs Greenhalgh (who lived across the road from us) get hit by a bus and die in agonising pain and was told it was "all part of His divine plan for her".

And even though I was only a small child, I could see the obvious flaws in that cop-out of an argument and decided on the spot that I was done with religion.

And can one of the true believers on here answer me a quick question, please?

You're a Christian.

You go to church every week, you say your prayers and you hand over your tithe with good grace and don't make a fuss.

Your wife (who you love deeply) dies prematurely from some horrible (God-made) disease.

Time passes and you meet someone else and get married.

But then, a couple of years down the line,  God's having a bad day at the office and she too succumbs to a bad case of scrofula or something equally debilitating and pops her clogs.

What happens when you die and go to heaven?

You're stuck then for eternity with two wives, both of whom you love but who never met each other down here and might not get on.

How does that work?

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