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1Strikes Empty Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 15:47

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
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Firstly, before I go on, I believe NHS frontline workers, carers, ambulance staff etc are woefully underpaid and should be paid properly. They are lifesavers when all said and done, it's absolutely wrong that an accountant or plumber should be earning more money than them.

However, the rest of the strikers can fook right off.

Let's take postmen as an example. I love my postman, a very jolly guy who always seems happy, but let's not pretend he does anything other than match the numbers on his letters and parcels to the number on the door. And for that he gets paid around £25k. That seems more than fair when compared to a supermarket worker who will be on minimum wage or slightly more for doing a far more difficult job (I know, I worked at Morrisons for one week). Postmen are important but they don't save lives.

Rail workers. Dear me, the vast majority are on very decent wages despite the fact the train service was a shambles long before the strikes started. And if they're so skint how come they can afford to strike every other day on no pay? If you don't like your job or salary do what most people do - quit and find a job that meets your requirements.

Driving examiners? Are you taking the piss? Again, if you don't like it find another job - what about a driving instructor for example, they seem to charge about £1000 an hour these days. Problem solved. Who cares if there's a shortage of examiners, the world isn't going to end.

Passport control? Fook off. You scan a passport and check the person in front of you matches the photo on the screen. It's basically the same job as a checkout person at the supermarket, without the friendly smile. You could pull someone off the street, give them a uniform and a 20 minute induction and they'd be good to go.

It'll be teachers before long as well. You know, those people who finish at 3pm and get about 12 weeks holiday a year.

Do you support these strikes or are people just taking the piss expecting the taxpayer/employer to make mass pay increases?

2Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 17:04

Sluffy

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I don't think anybody objects to people fighting to be paid what they are worth but I do think sometimes changes in society really need to be taken into account on what the employers can afford to pay.

We all want nurses to be paid more but the demand on the NHS is so much these days that it would cost billions each year to fund their claim.  (Wasn't the rise in NI intended to fund this iirc?).

Rail service usage has fallen by something like a third since Covid (people simply travel less because they work from home and use Zoom for meetings) and so there is a real economic need to reduce the workforce and fund/part fund wage rises from a reduced workforce.

Similarly who sends letters anymore - most of us correspond on the internet - do we really still need so many postal staff anymore?

At the other end of the scale we have footballers being paid silly money to kick a ball about each week!

It reminds me a bit of Thatcher's days when we needed societal change when we no longer needed coal mines, or dockers, or had an efficient car manufacturing industry or steel industry - the unions fought and went out on strike for pay rises and to save jobs - but the reality was that a world of miners, dockers, etc, etc being needed was long since over.

Social and health care in this country is broken - that's why there is a bottleneck at the hospitals to get people in and out of there quickly - but there is no place safe to discharge people to which is the problem.

People don't use town centre shops anymore and don't go in pubs - that's why town centres are dead and pubs keep shutting down - the railway's and postal service are also no longer used as they once were and are in need of rationalisation and modernising to accept that the world has changed and demand for their services have plummeted.  Have less railway and postal staff, reduces the wage bill and from those wage savings increased pay demands can then be met.

There needs to be a realism over all of this but sadly - as usual - it's been turned into a class war again - unions against the employers, Labour against the Tory Party, socialism against capitalism.

Will we never learn?

3Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 17:33

karlypants

karlypants
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It should be illegal for staff to go on strike whether it be Ambulance workers or Nurses just like our Police force, and to be quite honest with you, the whole NHS is a dump.

I was referred through an emergency appointment from my GP to the Stroke unit that would take no longer than two weeks only to get a call from them asking what my medical report was about as they had misplaced it and I am still waiting for my appointment and that should have been in October!!!

4Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 20:20

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Sluffy wrote:Similarly who sends letters anymore

Me.

I am currently writing letters to 4 inmates on Death Row in America. Two have the potential to be the first Mr Whittam.

5Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 20:22

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

karlypants wrote:It should be illegal for staff to go on strike whether it be Ambulance workers or Nurses just like our Police force


I agree with this. I doubt anyone thinks they don't deserve a big pay rise but striking is putting lives at risk. I'm guessing anyone supporting the strike would soon change their mind if they needed an ambulance and it took 12 hours to arrive.

6Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 21:09

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
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Natasha Whittam wrote:

Me.

I am currently writing letters to 4 inmates on Death Row in America. Two have the potential to be the first Mr Whittam.

Sending them a photo was a mistake. They all want the execution brought forward.

7Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 21:44

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

boltonbonce wrote:Sending them a photo was a mistake. They all want the execution brought forward.

You massive bitch, I can't help being popular.

8Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 21:58

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Natasha Whittam wrote:
boltonbonce wrote:Sending them a photo was a mistake. They all want the execution brought forward.

You massive bitch, I can't help being popular.
It must have been the cock in the frock that put them off. Very Happy

9Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 22:07

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

6 posts in and we've gone from the serious subject of strikes to cocks in frocks.

This site is going to shite, it would only have taken 2 posts three years ago.

10Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 22:15

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Natasha Whittam wrote:6 posts in and we've gone from the serious subject of strikes to cocks in frocks.

This site is going to shite, it would only have taken 2 posts three years ago.
I'm not getting involved in the political stuff. It could lead to arguments.

Want to see a sausage that looks like Syd Little?

11Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 22:18

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

boltonbonce wrote:Want to see a sausage that looks like Syd Little?

Sounds right up KP's street.

12Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 22:21

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Sounds right up KP's street.
It's actually up his trouser leg.

13Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Tue Jan 03 2023, 23:33

Sluffy

Sluffy
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boltonbonce wrote:
Natasha Whittam wrote:6 posts in and we've gone from the serious subject of strikes to cocks in frocks.

This site is going to shite, it would only have taken 2 posts three years ago.
I'm not getting involved in the political stuff. It could lead to arguments.

Want to see a sausage that looks like Syd Little?

I was always taught not to argue about politics or religion as the former is about the attainment of power and control in a legitimised way and the latter, power and control by fear (in a you will go to eternal damnation if you don't believe what I preach, sort of thing).

Either way, as the saying goes, power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I guess a fine example of this is election going on right now for a new 'speaker' for the USA's House of Representatives - which is roughly their equivalent to our House of Commons (the Senate being somewhat like our House of Lords).

In simple terms there are two political party's - Republicans, being the right wing party and Democrats being the left wing one.

The Republicans have the majority in the 'House' so you would think they would just pick who they want and vote them in.

The problem though is their party is split in two with pro-Trump supporters and those who would wish Trump would just 'go away'.

The bloke who should have been a shoe-in has crossed swords with Trump in the past and so 'crazed' Trump believers will not vote for him to be the new speaker and without their votes they can't obtain a majority in the House to elect the bloke who everyone expected to be voted in on the nod, so to speak!

Think of this if you like as their version of the 'Eurosceptic' rebels in the Tory Party which ultimately led to the Brexit vote and us leaving the EU.

The USA is lurching more and more towards right wing lunacy.

Boris imitated such (right wing) behaviour over here with his lies and rule breaking and Truss got as far as trying to put their ideas into action with her insane 'mini-budget' that all but wrecked the economy within days of it!

Israel has just elected an extreme right wing government (which really is the last place you want to be doing stuff like that if you want to keep the peace in Palestine) and of course you have Putin's right wing autocratic control in Russia and Xi's in China.

Things are definitely not looking too healthy for freedom and democracy right now unfortunately - hopefully sense will prevail in the end - fingers crossed!

The outlook is rather glum for the moment though unfortunately.

Now what was you saying about Syd Little's sausage...?

14Strikes Empty Re: Strikes Wed Jan 04 2023, 10:47

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

boltonbonce wrote:
Natasha Whittam wrote:

Sounds right up KP's street.
It's actually up his trouser leg.

Laughing

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