Bolton 0-0 Charlton

luckyPeterpiper wrote:

wanderlust wrote:True, but with the immediate debt paid off, my understanding is that in order to have the embargo lifted, the club merely have to conform to the FL monitoring criteria. I think I read something to the effect that the club voluntarily chose not to seek the lifting of the embargo for now.

Why would they do something that stupid? With all the troubles we have you'd think getting the embargo lifted would be a huge priority. I find it impossible to believe a club would deliberately hamstring themselves that way especially after the season we've had. 

I don't know where you heard that but I'll have a look and see if I can find it because the last I saw on this issue was a statement by the FL (repeated on the BWFC website) that the embargo would remain in place until the league had received some overdue books. 

To the best of my knowledge that hasn't happened yet and there's been no confirmation that SS even have or know the location of the 'missing' accounts. There was a short statement on BWFC that said 'steps are being taken to rectify the situation with regard to the transfer embargo and resolve this matter as soon as possible' but that was about two days after the takeover and I've not seen a peep since. Of course that may mean I simply missed it so if you do happen to remember later where you saw that could you please let me know? 

Cajunboy wrote:I can't believe over 12,000 fans turned up for this match.

luckyPeterpiper wrote:

wanderlust wrote:True, but with the immediate debt paid off, my understanding is that in order to have the embargo lifted, the club merely have to conform to the FL monitoring criteria. I think I read something to the effect that the club voluntarily chose not to seek the lifting of the embargo for now.

Why would they do something that stupid? With all the troubles we have you'd think getting the embargo lifted would be a huge priority. I find it impossible to believe a club would deliberately hamstring themselves that way especially after the season we've had. 

I don't know where you heard that but I'll have a look and see if I can find it because the last I saw on this issue was a statement by the FL (repeated on the BWFC website) that the embargo would remain in place until the league had received some overdue books. 

To the best of my knowledge that hasn't happened yet and there's been no confirmation that SS even have or know the location of the 'missing' accounts. There was a short statement on BWFC that said 'steps are being taken to rectify the situation with regard to the transfer embargo and resolve this matter as soon as possible' but that was about two days after the takeover and I've not seen a peep since. Of course that may mean I simply missed it so if you do happen to remember later where you saw that could you please let me know? Thanks.

luckyPeterpiper wrote:Barrjw I totally disagree. When the window opens is irrelevant, the very existence of the embargo will be enough to put off any prospective target from even entering negotiations with us. It needs to be gone already because most clubs will be eyeing up their targets for the summer already even if they can't make a formal deal yet. What the embargo does provide is a tailor made excuse for us not signing anyone when the window does open without SS coming out to publicly say "We're already skint and can't buy a pack of hob knobs let alone a striker." They can lay the blame at the previous administration's feet and say it wasn't their fault and (perhaps) that they still don't have the books the FL required when the embargo was imposed. 

lusty, the Anderson interview made it fairly clear that the budget was dependent on us shifting at least some of the higher paid players who are still under contract with us. I don't see that happening do you? 

I would love to be wrong about all this but I fear that our slide is going to continue for some time yet and that we're going to struggle next season at least. On and off the pitch things are still in a dreadful mess and I believe that's going to continue for some time yet.

luckyPeterpiper wrote:Barry I really hope you're right but how many times have we seen a report like this?

"X player has today agreed personal terms with y club and will formally sign for them on 1st July on a z year deal." 

A lot of deals are done and dusted long before the official window opens and it's especially true in the summer when may players have contracts that end on June 30th. Pre-contract agreements are very common too and as things stand we can't do any of that so we'll already be falling behind on July 1st even if we get the embargo lifted in June. I don't expect us to be making marquee signings of course but I think even the most myopic trotter would admit our squad is severely weak in all areas and needs some fresh blood fast.

wanderlust wrote:I don't think the embargo is going to be a big deal as recent press releases re next years budget and squad rebuilding etc were released as if the embargo didn't exist so they must be very confident.
If there's a benefit in the club not seeking to get the embargo lifted right now - perhaps a cost attached to the process - the club may discuss deals in principle in order to ascertain whether it would be worthwhile seeking to have the embargo lifted.
But I'd expect a good management team to be establishing ongoing dialogues and keeping their ears to the ground anyway.
Whether Deano's lot are a good management team remains to be seen, but they'd do well to be worse than the last bunch of cowboys.