Is anyone surprised?

Its a bloody disgrace ! In order to appease minorities we are condoning the breaking of the law. What a gutless lot we have in places of authority. It begs the question, when will someone have the courage to just say 'enough is enough', and make sure that the law applies to all, regardless of creed, colour, or community ?

I remember this fiasco but it pales into insignificance when we don't even have democracy in the UK where one person's vote is worth the same as another's?
Surely the big election fraud is the division of constituencies?

This is how many votes a party needs to win one seat:



[th]Party [/th][th]Votes per seat [/th]

Conservatives	34,244
Labour	40,290
SNP	25,972
Lib Dem	301,986
DUP	23,032
Sinn Ffein	44,058
Plaid Cymru	60,564
SDLP	33,269
UUP	57,467
Ukip	3,881,129
Green	1,157,613

A table displaying the number of votes won by each party, divided by the total number of seats they received (Votes per Seat)

Not really up on this sort of thing.

I'll ask Dame Shirley Porter.

As Boncey says not really the same thing WL.

On the one hand you have the inherent unfairness in the electoral system. The typical size of constituencies differs between parts of the UK. The Office for National Statistics gives the median total parliamentary electorate across constituencies of about 72,400 in England, 69,000 in Scotland, 66,800 in Northern Ireland and 56,800 in Wales. Which works to the advantage of Labour as their constituencies average about 4000 fewer voters than Tory ones.

On the other hand you have the authorities turning a blind eye to electoral fraud in case taking action upsets members of some minority communities.

xmiles wrote:As Boncey says not really the same thing WL.

On the one hand you have the inherent unfairness in the electoral system. The typical size of constituencies differs between parts of the UK. The Office for National Statistics gives the median total parliamentary electorate across constituencies of about 72,400 in England, 69,000 in Scotland, 66,800 in Northern Ireland and 56,800 in Wales. Which works to the advantage of Labour as their constituencies average about 4000 fewer voters than Tory ones.

On the other hand you have the authorities turning a blind eye to electoral fraud in case taking action upsets members of some minority communities.

So you don't think that in a country that claims to be the mother of modern democracy the current massively biased system isn't defrauding the public?
Pisses me off that my vote isn't worth as much as some scrote in Yarmouth.

As the figures show, the electoral system works in favour of the Tories as they need less votes to win a seat than Labour and others do.
In the 2015 general election the Tories took 36.9% of the total vote  - but were given 50.7% of the seats.
Labour took 30.4% and got 35.3% of the seats.
And UKIP got 1 seat from over 3.5 million votes. LOL.

Personally I think a fairer system would be proportional representation but the two problems with this are that firstly the alternative voting system was massively rejected by 68% of voters in a referendum in 2011 and secondly even if we had a fairer system we would have a lot more UKIP MPs.

The only way the current system could be said to work in favour of the Tories is that their voters are spread over constituencies more evenly than Labour voters who tend to be concentrated in large cities and the poorer regions. On the other hand the unequal size of constituencies is actually unfair.

And none of this involves criminal fraud.