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I've hardly been on the site for the last few days and all hell as broken lose, so let me start to try and pick up the pieces.
Let me try to set the scene first and take you through a few of the things you probably don't know.
Nuts was founded by three of us, one of whom was Natasha.
To grow the site it was felt it would be a good idea to have a few fake accounts to get things moving. I wasn't too keen about doing that but let it go on the proviso that the fake accounts only posted 'in fun'.
Unfortunately they did not stay at posting in fun and the accounts started to get abusive to genuine posters and to cut a long story short I insisted that the fake accounts were closed - and they were.
However this led to discontent behind the scenes and attempted coups to 'oust' me and the other founder, in order that someone could do as they pleased on here - posts were removed, threads were deleted and even posters banned - and something needed to be done.
The spark was Bread and his dislike of Scott.
Scott 'attacked' Bread for reasons I never understood and Bread was determined to get him banned - and for a while he was. Scott set home on BA.
However when Bread went over to Burnden Aces gloating and braging about he had got the mods to ban him, it didn't sit right with me. Indeed the ban came about partly due to Bread threatening to leave the site if Scott wasn't banned and I was never comfortable with pandering to threats - the rights and wrongs of the matter needed to be weighed - and the right course of action should always flow from there.
After a reasonable time and with a pledge of acting reasonably from Scott I persuaded my fellow mods to reinstate him - which Bread did not like in the least.
My nemesis behind the scene's decide to have a bit of fun and 'play' Bread by convincing him I was some sort of control freak - not too difficult to believe I guess as I'm accused of all sorts from several who have crossed swords with me in the past - and sought his help in once again to get rid of me (and by implication of his previous attempts, the other founder and mods), so that he had full control over the whole of the site.
Well things didn't go to plan, I and the other founder and the mods are still here, but Admin and Mod rights were removed (by a unanimous decision by the rest who run Nuts) from the miscreant.
Bread apologised profusely and I took the decision to draw a line under everything and move on - rather than banning them both for good, which I'm sure any other site owner on any other forum would have done.
The first thing I did on removing the former founders privileges (in agreement with the other founder) was to extend the 'ownership' of the site to three other people - Biggie, BTID and Karly - giving them the same rights and say as myself and the other founder.
The site is NOT owned by me, it never has been, there where three of us originally and now there are five.
Although Bread may have apologised to me he clearly hasn't forgot about me bringing Scott back had he's consistently sniped at me since
All this bullshit (and that is exactly what it is) about me turning a blind eye to this, that or the other, simply to keep post counts up, or having an hatred for Mike Smith and the ST, or any other of the many, many sly little digs he sends my way are simply not true - but if you say something for long enough people do tend to start to believe them.
There never has been any debates, questions, disagreement or whatever else behind the scenes about any of the constant negative drivel Bread accused me of.
If you doubt me about any of the above please feel free to seek independent confirmation from Biggie, BTID or Karly at anytime (the other original member still wishes to remain anonymous).
Well that's the background so what exactly happened recently.
Although I said above all fake accounts where removed from the site, I perhaps should be more precise by saying all 'known' fake accounts had been removed - there are no doubt fake accounts on here that we suspect but cannot prove.
It would seem that the triumvirate of Bread, Scott and Boggars have been linked together in one way or another since then, and have gone through a series of phases such as from the bumchum v nonbumchums (or whatever it is they called themselves) to more recently the (non) charity donation arguement.
Bread clearly thinks one or both of the other posters are fake - and he may well be right about that.
However how do you mod an argument between two sides that can't be proven either way?
You have to allow both to continue OR you stop both from posting.
Well it looks as though the die as now been cast.
Bread as walked off and Scott and Boggars banned.
We will obviously be much quitter from now on, maybe the blow will be terminal to Nuts but at least the place will be a lot more less nasty from now on.
Shame but there we are.
Hard to believe we are all grown men and women.
Let me try to set the scene first and take you through a few of the things you probably don't know.
Nuts was founded by three of us, one of whom was Natasha.
To grow the site it was felt it would be a good idea to have a few fake accounts to get things moving. I wasn't too keen about doing that but let it go on the proviso that the fake accounts only posted 'in fun'.
Unfortunately they did not stay at posting in fun and the accounts started to get abusive to genuine posters and to cut a long story short I insisted that the fake accounts were closed - and they were.
However this led to discontent behind the scenes and attempted coups to 'oust' me and the other founder, in order that someone could do as they pleased on here - posts were removed, threads were deleted and even posters banned - and something needed to be done.
The spark was Bread and his dislike of Scott.
Scott 'attacked' Bread for reasons I never understood and Bread was determined to get him banned - and for a while he was. Scott set home on BA.
However when Bread went over to Burnden Aces gloating and braging about he had got the mods to ban him, it didn't sit right with me. Indeed the ban came about partly due to Bread threatening to leave the site if Scott wasn't banned and I was never comfortable with pandering to threats - the rights and wrongs of the matter needed to be weighed - and the right course of action should always flow from there.
After a reasonable time and with a pledge of acting reasonably from Scott I persuaded my fellow mods to reinstate him - which Bread did not like in the least.
My nemesis behind the scene's decide to have a bit of fun and 'play' Bread by convincing him I was some sort of control freak - not too difficult to believe I guess as I'm accused of all sorts from several who have crossed swords with me in the past - and sought his help in once again to get rid of me (and by implication of his previous attempts, the other founder and mods), so that he had full control over the whole of the site.
Well things didn't go to plan, I and the other founder and the mods are still here, but Admin and Mod rights were removed (by a unanimous decision by the rest who run Nuts) from the miscreant.
Bread apologised profusely and I took the decision to draw a line under everything and move on - rather than banning them both for good, which I'm sure any other site owner on any other forum would have done.
The first thing I did on removing the former founders privileges (in agreement with the other founder) was to extend the 'ownership' of the site to three other people - Biggie, BTID and Karly - giving them the same rights and say as myself and the other founder.
The site is NOT owned by me, it never has been, there where three of us originally and now there are five.
Although Bread may have apologised to me he clearly hasn't forgot about me bringing Scott back had he's consistently sniped at me since
All this bullshit (and that is exactly what it is) about me turning a blind eye to this, that or the other, simply to keep post counts up, or having an hatred for Mike Smith and the ST, or any other of the many, many sly little digs he sends my way are simply not true - but if you say something for long enough people do tend to start to believe them.
There never has been any debates, questions, disagreement or whatever else behind the scenes about any of the constant negative drivel Bread accused me of.
If you doubt me about any of the above please feel free to seek independent confirmation from Biggie, BTID or Karly at anytime (the other original member still wishes to remain anonymous).
Well that's the background so what exactly happened recently.
Although I said above all fake accounts where removed from the site, I perhaps should be more precise by saying all 'known' fake accounts had been removed - there are no doubt fake accounts on here that we suspect but cannot prove.
It would seem that the triumvirate of Bread, Scott and Boggars have been linked together in one way or another since then, and have gone through a series of phases such as from the bumchum v nonbumchums (or whatever it is they called themselves) to more recently the (non) charity donation arguement.
Bread clearly thinks one or both of the other posters are fake - and he may well be right about that.
However how do you mod an argument between two sides that can't be proven either way?
You have to allow both to continue OR you stop both from posting.
Well it looks as though the die as now been cast.
Bread as walked off and Scott and Boggars banned.
We will obviously be much quitter from now on, maybe the blow will be terminal to Nuts but at least the place will be a lot more less nasty from now on.
Shame but there we are.
Hard to believe we are all grown men and women.
