Bolton 0-2 Oxford

MartinBWFC · **101** Re: Bolton 0-2 Oxford Sun Oct 02 2016, 15:46

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wessy wrote:I can't put into words just how bad yesterday was and yes Parkinson takes the rap, however turn the clock back and it was Lennon who was clueless no it was Freeman surely he was pants, Coyle sucked remember, through all of this the constant factor is actually the PLAYERS.

Ok we have to buy at the left over table, that again is no excuse look at Bury & Scunthorpe doesn't stop them.

Our established players do not deliver, Pratley, Mavies, Moxey, Trotter even Spearing with his pedigree can't deliver, then you look at the youth well most have been moved on, but Vela and even Clough they do not add value they think they are better than they have proved to be.

Other than the centre halves no one is pulling his weight. We play with ten men because we carry Trotter, sometimes 9 men because we carry Vela, no movement, no guile in midfield no width, leaves us impotent, no one runs from deep, no one drives midfield like say Mcateer did.

The strikers are sub standard they are 1 in 5 men at best, presently we are in relegation form in this league even shit teams can put a winning run together, if we can do that then we will be ok if not then Saturday becomes a reality and a marker for the future.

You make a valid point regards to Bury and Scunthorpe, they must have some scouts out far and wide searching for lower league players, and it's paying off, ok no-one knows how long they have been moulding them but moulded they have done.

Successive managers have gone down the tried and trusted player route, and clearly this has not worked, I'm still in the give Parky time camp, as I do feel the players he has drafted in will gel eventually, but if nothings changed by Christmas, I will be in the majority in wanting him gone.

Some will be up in arms if we lose to Bury, and that I feel will be his acid test, no Bolton fan wants to get beat by little old Bury, and it will be how we perform against them that will turn the fans heads one way or another.

doffcocker · **102** Re: Bolton 0-2 Oxford Sun Oct 02 2016, 16:25

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wessy wrote:I can't put into words just how bad yesterday was and yes Parkinson takes the rap, however turn the clock back and it was Lennon who was clueless no it was Freeman surely he was pants, Coyle sucked remember, through all of this the constant factor is actually the PLAYERS.

I'm glad somebody else has had a look at it from this angle.

We're just going exactly the same way as endless other clubs that have had their glory days in the Prem. A few shit signings and a bad run, and everybody wants the guy gone, and then we start the cycle all over again with somebody else.

I've been to most games this season and am far from impressed. But you have to draw the line somewhere. I mean let's suppose in six years time, we've been through six managers in as many seasons and are still shit. People will still be blaming it on whoever the manager is at that time. But you'd have to be really unlucky to have six bad managers in succession.

For the record, the majority of Bury fans thought Flitcroft was bloody hopeless last season. Wonder what their thoughts are now.

Natasha Whittam · **103** Re: Bolton 0-2 Oxford Sun Oct 02 2016, 17:03

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doffcocker wrote:I'm glad somebody else has had a look at it from this angle.

Scary that someone else thinks like you.

terenceanne · **104** Re: Bolton 0-2 Oxford Sun Oct 02 2016, 23:00

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I'm not blaming Parky totally as of yet ......many on here wanted a manager with League One experience. That's what you got.......
He was offered the job despite interest from other name brand managers (supposedly).
So be careful what you wish for ....you might just get it.
I can't see a fix in the near future ....even if Ken bins Parky .....we are still stuck with the same players. I imagine the axe will fall after Christmas but then what...I have no idea.

wessy · **105** Re: Bolton 0-2 Oxford Sun Oct 02 2016, 23:02

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Natasha Whittam wrote:

doffcocker wrote:I'm glad somebody else has had a look at it from this angle.

Scary that someone else thinks like you.

Tell you what is scary Nat, you gave people on here real stick over being negative, yet at this point you are the most negative poster on here. take a look at your recent comments on the predictions on the betting competition and comments on the match analysis.

just a tad OTT.

wanderlust · **106** Re: Bolton 0-2 Oxford Mon Oct 03 2016, 16:12

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When I and others said we wouldn't be top of the league & unbeaten for long, I don't think any of us thought we'd go on a run as bad as this despite the signs being there all along. Without an attacking threat despite using all our strikers yesterday, we're always going to struggle and that is the core of the problem I reckon. Some of the players released are starting to look a lot better than what we have and I still think that letting so many kids go was criminal but we are where we are. Parkinson will be around for a while but he has to turn this around quickly if he wants to avoid the nastiness some of our previous managers were put through. I really hope he gets it together and soon.

whatsgoingon · **107** Re: Bolton 0-2 Oxford Mon Oct 03 2016, 16:39

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I was warning of caution after the 4 wins because we were in a completely false position pro-rata to the performances and the squad and felt it could work against us by raising expectations artificially, but like you didn't see the iceberg being quite so catastrophic.
I always try to back managers and give them a chance but I don't see anything in Parkinson to lead me to believe he is the right man.
I was optimistic when he came in that his experience in this league and pragmatic approach might be what we needed but he seems tactically inept but more damning he seems over cautious to the point of complete negativity.
There is no way we should be going out scared of anybody in this division but we seem to be setting out to contain every game.
I can't see in the current set up where improvement is coming from, and even referring back to our good start doesn't inspire that much confidence.
Worrying times as far as I'm concerned.

Guest · **108** Re: Bolton 0-2 Oxford Mon Oct 03 2016, 16:49

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whatsgoingon wrote:I was warning of caution after the 4 wins because we were in a completely false position pro-rata to the performances and the squad and felt it could work against us by raising expectations artificially, but like you didn't see the iceberg being quite so catastrophic.

After reading the fleetwood match thread and then the charlton one i cant find any evidence of you airing caution. So unless you did it as another account, stop rewriting history to make yourself sound right.

Natasha Whittam · **109** Re: Bolton 0-2 Oxford Mon Oct 03 2016, 16:56