Gary Madine

Lot's of speculation regarding him having a bust up on the team bus, should he be fed to the lions ?

He is the essence of Parky's style in fact it could be said that Parky builds everything around a target man. Madine challenges well for the ball although he's no SKD on that front, but his finishing leaves a lot to be desired and in general he isn't clinical enough for a centre forward.

As to being a bellend - never met the lad and speculation means nothing so I'll reserve my judgement.

I don't think he was playing that well even when he won player of the month, just a much improved version of his usual shit self.

Lately though he's been as bad as ever. Most of his shots are scuffed, he gets a lot of decent chances in the air that he usually just heads over or straight at the keeper. For a tall lad he doesn't win that many aerial battles at all.

Basically he's from that same mold of so many others before him - Elmander, Ngog, Beckford, etc. - give him a sitter and there's still only a 10% chance he'll score.

On top of all that he's a thug, and seems like an all round bellend.

Certainly not legend material.

Gary Madine is a useless fuckwit of a "baller" and if we weren't absolutely skint, we'd never have signed him in the first place.

He is symptomatic of our plight: We've no money to replace him and we have a manager who has proved that he can only play one way, ie lump it up to a target man, so sadly, Madine (despite being utterly fucking shit) is pretty much guaranteed to start most games.

I voiced my concerns over his temperament and (lack of) ability when he joined us and I haven't seen anything since which has changed my opinion of him.

He's a knob and every time I see him in a Bolton shirt, I cringe.

He's not a bad boy character like Diouf or Robbie Savage who thrives on winding the opposition up and then strikes, he's just a dick who thinks he's better than he actually is.

And what he is, is actually pretty piss poor.

It's like desperately wanting an Oscar Peterson,but having to make do with a Les Dawson.

boltonbonce wrote:It's like desperately wanting an Oscar Peterson,but having to make do with a Les Dawson.

As an aside I've always had a weakness for jazz piano and Oscar in particular, but never desperately wanted it.
I had a couple of his albums - the guy was a genius - and remember a set with a pipe-smoking upright bass player who I think was Swedish or Danish who puffed away contentedly whilst laying down some incredible lines. Surreal.

Madine isn't great there is no getting round that, it's a fact but he is a better option than Connor Wilkinson who played yesterday. He does give us a physical presence up front, takes a lot of punishment from defenders and under Parky's style of play we are a better team with him in it than not. He will more than likely be gone in the summer along with lots of others regardless of what division we are in so until then unless we suddenly adopt a different style of play he will play every week if fit.

wanderlust wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:It's like desperately wanting an Oscar Peterson,but having to make do with a Les Dawson.

As an aside I've always had a weakness for jazz piano and Oscar in particular, but never desperately wanted it.
I had a couple of his albums - the guy was a genius - and remember a set with a pipe-smoking upright bass player who I think was Swedish or Danish who puffed away contentedly whilst laying down some incredible lines. Surreal.

Thelonious Monk. He's the man.

boltonbonce wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:It's like desperately wanting an Oscar Peterson,but having to make do with a Les Dawson.

As an aside I've always had a weakness for jazz piano and Oscar in particular, but never desperately wanted it.
I had a couple of his albums - the guy was a genius - and remember a set with a pipe-smoking upright bass player who I think was Swedish or Danish who puffed away contentedly whilst laying down some incredible lines. Surreal.

Thelonious Monk. He's the man.

He was but in a totally different style....and a great composer too.

boltonbonce wrote:

wanderlust wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:It's like desperately wanting an Oscar Peterson,but having to make do with a Les Dawson.

As an aside I've always had a weakness for jazz piano and Oscar in particular, but never desperately wanted it.
I had a couple of his albums - the guy was a genius - and remember a set with a pipe-smoking upright bass player who I think was Swedish or Danish who puffed away contentedly whilst laying down some incredible lines. Surreal.

Thelonious Monk. He's the man.

Agree with you there- but lets go further back and pay homage to Sonny Terry and Brownie Mcghee.

 About Madine though- I think he's  a waste of a shirt. The problem is ALF looks like a shadow of his former self- he's simply not doing the business any more for whatever reason.
Tomorrow night I would play Clayton and Long with ALF and Madine on the bench.
They can't do any worse.
We should stop kidding ourselves that we are a force in League 1 football- we're where we are in the league more by luck than skill.

For all the words above I think we missed Madine in the last 2 games.

Biggie wrote:For all the words above I think we missed Madine in the last 2 games.

What's the official line on him at the moment? Is is still 'illness' thats keeping him out?

According to Parky in today's BN, he had a virus which has now cleared up.

Hmm.......

either that or he's finally sobered from last weekends session

Whatever the reason, we need him back in tbd side. Yes we are that desperate.

I don't rate him. He falls down too much, and tends to go shy on crucial tackles. he doesn't score enough either.

Bolton Wanderers assistant Steve Parkin: Stick to the facts on Gary Madine

STEVE Parkin has asked fans to ignore the conspiracy theories as Gary Madine makes his return to first team action today.

The striker was pulled out of the squad shortly before the away defeat at Sheffield United, with the club citing he was too ill to feature at Bramall Lane.

A video showing the striker abusing Blades favourite Billy Sharp had done the rounds on social media in the build-up to the game, prompting a furious reaction from the League One leaders’ fans.

Various reports surfaced in the days after the 2-0 defeat with speculation rife over the ‘real reason’ for Madine’s absence.

But assistant boss Parkin insists the facts were less glamorous than the fiction.

“He saw the doc, has trained, and says he feels a lot better than he did, so he should be okay,” he said. “The conspiracy theories were inevitable because of what went off in the build up to the Sheffield United game. I have had a good relationship with Gary since I have been here and he didn’t look great, it has to be said.

“People can believe what they want but at the end of the day he’s a key player for us and we’ll leave it at that.”

Parkin has been impressed by today’s opponents AFC Wimbledon, who shocked second-placed Scunthorpe United.

“It was an upset when they beat Scunny but I watched their performance and they thoroughly deserved to do so,” he said. “I’m sure they will be looking forward to playing at our beautiful stadium.
“They have a good manager, they have a system which works, and they have got strong, physical front players who can mix it up.

“It was a tough game at their place on a really hot day but our lads stood up to the physicality on that day and they have to do that again.”

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He bottled it at Bramall Lane when he saw their fans baying for his blood. I have no idea why they feel the need to bullshit us like this but its insulting.

I saw Wilkinson in the U23 game a week or so ago,  I think he will be pushing Madine for a starting place next season, has a lot to learn but I think has better all round play than Madine.

Fabians Right Peg wrote:I saw Wilkinson in the U23 game a week or so ago,  I think he will be pushing Madine for a starting place next season, has a lot to learn but I think has better all round play than Madine.

Couldn't disagree more, I think his potential is virtually zero.

The fact he's been on loan at several clubs and none has wanted to buy him suggests he's never going to make it.