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karlypants
Natasha Whittam
Norpig
Reebok Trotter
BoltonTillIDie
xmiles
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2 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 10:26
BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
xmiles wrote:A classic example below. Any other examples?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40679075
what a stupid thing to do!
3 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 10:34
Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
xmiles wrote:A classic example below. Any other examples?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40679075
How absolutely ridiculous. They say if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
4 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 13:15
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
just read that before i came on here, totally ridiculous but i think these people get paid more if they issue more fines so it's all about numbers and no common sense
5 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 14:05
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
What if your livelihood is selling soft drinks to festival goers....a festival you have to pay to have a license for by the way.
Then some 5 year old comes along without a license and undercuts your prices by 75%, are you supposed to just smile sweetly while he/she takes all your custom?
Norpig - if some 5 year old walks into your hospital on Monday morning offering to wash the bed pans for 75% less than they pay you, would you be happy to give up your livelihood?
Rules are there to protect people.
Then some 5 year old comes along without a license and undercuts your prices by 75%, are you supposed to just smile sweetly while he/she takes all your custom?
Norpig - if some 5 year old walks into your hospital on Monday morning offering to wash the bed pans for 75% less than they pay you, would you be happy to give up your livelihood?
Rules are there to protect people.
6 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 14:11
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Rules are there to control people!Natasha Whittam wrote:
Rules are there to protect people.
7 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 14:12
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
karlypants wrote:Rules are there to control people!
People need to be controlled.
8 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 14:13
okocha
El Hadji Diouf
Possibly your worst ever post. Is Katie Hopkins your role-model? You completely miss the point. There were alternative ways of dealing with this without causing utter distress to a little girl.....as Tower Hamlets have rightly appreciated and apologised for. If you'd had children, I'm sure your response would have been different.Natasha Whittam wrote:What if your livelihood is selling soft drinks to festival goers....a festival you have to pay to have a license for by the way.
Then some 5 year old comes along without a license and undercuts your prices by 75%, are you supposed to just smile sweetly while he/she takes all your custom?
Norpig - if some 5 year old walks into your hospital on Monday morning offering to wash the bed pans for 75% less than they pay you, would you be happy to give up your livelihood?
Rules are there to protect people.
9 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 14:18
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
okocha wrote:If you'd had children, I'm sure your response would have been different.
That's a low blow. Every man I meet has a low sperm count.
10 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 14:22
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
okocha wrote:Possibly your worst ever post. Is Katie Hopkins your role-model? You completely miss the point. There were alternative ways of dealing with this without causing utter distress to a little girl.
She's learnt a valuable lesson though okocha, at least now she won't grow up to run an illegal hamburger pitch or ice cream van.
But it's you who is missing the point - this is about the livelihood of decent, honest people. We can't have kids setting up illegal stalls and taking away business from honest taxpayers.
11 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 14:23
BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Natasha Whittam wrote:okocha wrote:If you'd had children, I'm sure your response would have been different.
That's a low blow. Every man I meet has a low sperm count.
or just doesn't want to do the deed with you
12 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 14:26
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
BoltonTillIDie wrote:or just doesn't want to do the deed with you
Most men in their 30's also seem to suffer from impotence. Perhaps I should date younger men.
13 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 14:55
BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Natasha Whittam wrote:BoltonTillIDie wrote:or just doesn't want to do the deed with you
Most men in their 30's also seem to suffer from impotence. Perhaps I should date younger men.
14 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 16:42
okocha
El Hadji Diouf
You're making it worse for yourself now.You sound completely callous It's about a sense of proportion and compassion. The girl is 5 years old and believed she was doing something good. A gentle word was all that was needed, as the council and all right-minded people have acknowledged. It would have been much better for you if you'd just admitted your views are not worthy of you, a lesson that very many politicians need to learn as well. Thank goodness you are not a parent or a teacher.Natasha Whittam wrote:okocha wrote:Possibly your worst ever post. Is Katie Hopkins your role-model? You completely miss the point. There were alternative ways of dealing with this without causing utter distress to a little girl.
She's learnt a valuable lesson though okocha, at least now she won't grow up to run an illegal hamburger pitch or ice cream van.
But it's you who is missing the point - this is about the livelihood of decent, honest people. We can't have kids setting up illegal stalls and taking away business from honest taxpayers.
15 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 19:47
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
okocha wrote:You're making it worse for yourself now.You sound completely callous It's about a sense of proportion and compassion. The girl is 5 years old and believed she was doing something good. A gentle word was all that was needed, as the council and all right-minded people have acknowledged. It would have been much better for you if you'd just admitted your views are not worthy of you, a lesson that very many politicians need to learn as well. Thank goodness you are not a parent or a teacher.
Just because someone believes they are doing good, doesn't mean they are. Dougie Freedman probably thought he was doing good when he signed Liam Trotter, but we all know how that turned out.
Perhaps if Freedman had spent a night in the cells for his crimes we wouldn't be in the state we are now.
Actions have consequences, even when you're 5.
16 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 21:05
Fabians Right Peg
Andy Walker
Bet the dad wasn't paying tax or NI contributions for his under age worker either.
17 Re: Jobsworth Fri Jul 21 2017, 21:30
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Fab gets it. If the okochas of this world were in charge the country would be in anarchy.
18 Re: Jobsworth Sun Jul 23 2017, 11:56
okocha
El Hadji Diouf
Nat, you're on your own on this one: key words are: "kindness," "common sense", "across the world" and "sensibly". I'm sure you have got the point now and would like to ensure that you are no longer seen as a misguided, callous individual.
See BBC article below:
"Tower Hamlets Council has since apologised for issuing the fixed penalty notice and cancelled the fine.
The family tweeted: "We have been overwhelmed by the kind response from people across the world.
Mr Spicer told how his daughter had "burst into tears" after enforcement officers "began reading from a big script explaining that she did not have a trading licence".
He said: "My daughter clung to me screaming 'Daddy, Daddy, I've done a bad thing.' She's five.
"We were then issued a fine of £150.
A council spokesman said: "We are very sorry that this has happened. We expect our enforcement officers to show common sense and to use their powers sensibly.
"This clearly did not happen."
See BBC article below:
"Tower Hamlets Council has since apologised for issuing the fixed penalty notice and cancelled the fine.
The family tweeted: "We have been overwhelmed by the kind response from people across the world.
Mr Spicer told how his daughter had "burst into tears" after enforcement officers "began reading from a big script explaining that she did not have a trading licence".
He said: "My daughter clung to me screaming 'Daddy, Daddy, I've done a bad thing.' She's five.
"We were then issued a fine of £150.
A council spokesman said: "We are very sorry that this has happened. We expect our enforcement officers to show common sense and to use their powers sensibly.
"This clearly did not happen."
19 Re: Jobsworth Sun Jul 23 2017, 12:08
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Ridiculous, a bit of bad press and they fold like a Bolton defence.
20 Re: Jobsworth Sun Jul 23 2017, 13:08
Fabians Right Peg
Andy Walker
Sorry, but sometimes I think we have become too soft as a nation.
From what I can tell reading the article it seems this little 5 year old girl decided to set up a lemonade stand, not outside her home but on a main road on the way to a major music event.
She had the foresight to take a kitchen table with her and by the look of the photo a shopping trolley bag full of lemonade.
This kid must be a real budding Alan Sugar, most kids at 5 setting up this sort of stuff would chuck a blanket in front of there house, crush up a few petals, label it perfume and flog it to the next door neighbour.
Seems to me that the key part of this is that Dad was there and if you seriously think it was the kid that the enforcement officers where directing there rebuke to then I suspect you are way off the mark.
Was the kid upset that Dad got a telling off, probably, should Dad have been using his five year old kid as a cheap marketing tool, definitely not.
Then Dad squeals because he got a £150 fine, about the emotional trauma caused by his own idiocy, and gets let off because the council knows that a bunch of do-gooder's will feel sorry because of the little kid.
Symptomatic of the culture of today, would not be surprised if he now try's to claim compensation or even loss of earnings.
From what I can tell reading the article it seems this little 5 year old girl decided to set up a lemonade stand, not outside her home but on a main road on the way to a major music event.
She had the foresight to take a kitchen table with her and by the look of the photo a shopping trolley bag full of lemonade.
This kid must be a real budding Alan Sugar, most kids at 5 setting up this sort of stuff would chuck a blanket in front of there house, crush up a few petals, label it perfume and flog it to the next door neighbour.
Seems to me that the key part of this is that Dad was there and if you seriously think it was the kid that the enforcement officers where directing there rebuke to then I suspect you are way off the mark.
Was the kid upset that Dad got a telling off, probably, should Dad have been using his five year old kid as a cheap marketing tool, definitely not.
Then Dad squeals because he got a £150 fine, about the emotional trauma caused by his own idiocy, and gets let off because the council knows that a bunch of do-gooder's will feel sorry because of the little kid.
Symptomatic of the culture of today, would not be surprised if he now try's to claim compensation or even loss of earnings.
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