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Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues
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21 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:43 pm
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22 Bolton Wanderers call in PFA to help sort Ken Anderson pay row Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:40 am
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
The PFA will speak to senior players at Bolton Wanderers this morning to see if they will be required to provide financial assistance towards wages during the current turmoil.
Frustration in the Whites’ camp is high after players and coaching staff have been left waiting for their November salary by under-fire club owner Ken Anderson.
A pledge to pay by Thursday was not honoured and the players’ union could now organise loans to help bail the club out.
The Wanderers squad will travel by coach to an away fixture at Norwich City this morning, stopping for a training session en route.
Reports suggesting members of staff could go on strike have been vehemently denied within the camp and preparations will continue for the match at Carrow Road as normal, despite another unwanted distraction.
Anderson has come in for heavy criticism for his handling of the situation and penned a lengthy response on the club’s official website on Wednesday, blaming local media ‘negativity’ and a shortfall of 2,000 supporters for the plummet in cash-flow which has contributed to the problem.
Once the club pay a salary run they will also be obliged to pay tax and national insurance – and some sources suggest the due date of this payment could be linked to the delay.
Phil Parkinson tried hard to play down the problems at his weekly press conference yesterday but admitted the wage issues were “hardly ideal”.
“We are in regular dialogue with Ken and Paul Aldridge, and I had a good chat with him the other night to talk us through what is going on,” he said.
“I think there will be a positive resolution.
“I had a brief chat with the lads this morning to explain the situation but I have touched base with Ken and he is looking to sort it.”
Anderson claimed earlier this week that this was the first time the “majority” of players – many of whom were signed in the summer – had experienced pay problems at Bolton.
But while senior stars have been able to draw on savings, the hardest-hit are understood to be first year professionals, who have not had the same earning power.
A source told The Bolton News yesterday: “It’s not nice for any of us but the younger lads don’t have money saved up so it’s a big problem to them.”
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Frustration in the Whites’ camp is high after players and coaching staff have been left waiting for their November salary by under-fire club owner Ken Anderson.
A pledge to pay by Thursday was not honoured and the players’ union could now organise loans to help bail the club out.
The Wanderers squad will travel by coach to an away fixture at Norwich City this morning, stopping for a training session en route.
Reports suggesting members of staff could go on strike have been vehemently denied within the camp and preparations will continue for the match at Carrow Road as normal, despite another unwanted distraction.
Anderson has come in for heavy criticism for his handling of the situation and penned a lengthy response on the club’s official website on Wednesday, blaming local media ‘negativity’ and a shortfall of 2,000 supporters for the plummet in cash-flow which has contributed to the problem.
Once the club pay a salary run they will also be obliged to pay tax and national insurance – and some sources suggest the due date of this payment could be linked to the delay.
Phil Parkinson tried hard to play down the problems at his weekly press conference yesterday but admitted the wage issues were “hardly ideal”.
“We are in regular dialogue with Ken and Paul Aldridge, and I had a good chat with him the other night to talk us through what is going on,” he said.
“I think there will be a positive resolution.
“I had a brief chat with the lads this morning to explain the situation but I have touched base with Ken and he is looking to sort it.”
Anderson claimed earlier this week that this was the first time the “majority” of players – many of whom were signed in the summer – had experienced pay problems at Bolton.
But while senior stars have been able to draw on savings, the hardest-hit are understood to be first year professionals, who have not had the same earning power.
A source told The Bolton News yesterday: “It’s not nice for any of us but the younger lads don’t have money saved up so it’s a big problem to them.”
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23 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:11 am
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
I don't think any of the players will be on the breadline because of this but it doesn't help team morale does it?
24 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:34 am
Growler
Tony Kelly
Our players showed in summer that they want their money paying on time by going on strike.It's crazy that Ken told them he'd pay their November wages on Thursday but then didn't pay them.That is asking for troubleNorpig wrote:I don't think any of the players will be on the breadline because of this but it doesn't help team morale does it?
25 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:12 am
Sluffy
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T.R.O.Y wrote:Not sure a nobody from Twitter’s opinion is what matters here.
He's Daily Mail's football news reporter.
26 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:36 pm
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Millionaires getting "financial assistance" christ.
27 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:41 am
finlaymcdanger
Frank Worthington
Surely the club is in breach of contract and the players can walk if they haven't been paid? They'll no doubt all be on the lookout for new clubs in the January window but will need to receive offers before heading out, which I'm sure the majority will find difficult - especially in the Championship. Most of them will be better off sitting tight especially if they have been given guarantees of a quick resolution. It's all far from ideal but I don't think we can start blaming the performances on this situation. They're shit at this level and have ended up at Bolton, in it's current plight, for a reason. No one else wants them.
28 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:18 am
Growler
Tony Kelly
Ken will pay good 3rd tier wages (thanks to the revenue we generate) and we have got some decent 3rd tier players.We could do with the likes of Oztumer and Doidge staying next season because they should be good at the level below.finlaymcdanger wrote:Surely the club is in breach of contract and the players can walk if they haven't been paid? They'll no doubt all be on the lookout for new clubs in the January window but will need to receive offers before heading out, which I'm sure the majority will find difficult - especially in the Championship. Most of them will be better off sitting tight especially if they have been given guarantees of a quick resolution. It's all far from ideal but I don't think we can start blaming the performances on this situation. They're shit at this level and have ended up at Bolton, in it's current plight, for a reason. No one else wants them.
29 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:58 am
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Sluffy wrote:T.R.O.Y wrote:Not sure a nobody from Twitter’s opinion is what matters here.
He's Daily Mail's football news reporter.
Why should he be impartial then? Journalists are paid to write their opinions.
30 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:50 am
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Players' union to provide partial wage bail out at Bolton
It is understood around half of the outstanding money – £400,000 – will be paid into players’ accounts this morning.
The rest must be supplied by under-fire Bolton Wanderers owner Ken Anderson but should that payment not be made by December 14, this Friday, then playing contracts would become null and void and players could walk away for nothing.
Anderson, who has come in for heavy criticism of his handling of the situation, last week blamed a drop in attendances for the current cashflow problems, which meant he could not pay November salaries to players and coaching staff.
He has refused to comment on whether December’s salary could also be affected.
Under such circumstances, Parkinson was proud of his players’ performance at Norwich, despite an injury-time goal from Teemu Pukki meaning they left Carrow Road empty-handed.
“The perfect answer would have been a result,” he said. “Really, when you take the emotion out of it, in the cold light of day, Sammy got sent off and there’s 30 seconds to go, the ball goes into the box and we didn’t react quickly enough to the second ball.
“That’s what hurts more than anything. I should be stood here applauding the lads for the way they played against the top of the league.”
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The PFA has stepped in with an emergency loan to ease the pay crisis at Wanderers.
It is understood around half of the outstanding money – £400,000 – will be paid into players’ accounts this morning.
The rest must be supplied by under-fire Bolton Wanderers owner Ken Anderson but should that payment not be made by December 14, this Friday, then playing contracts would become null and void and players could walk away for nothing.
Anderson, who has come in for heavy criticism of his handling of the situation, last week blamed a drop in attendances for the current cashflow problems, which meant he could not pay November salaries to players and coaching staff.
He has refused to comment on whether December’s salary could also be affected.
Under such circumstances, Parkinson was proud of his players’ performance at Norwich, despite an injury-time goal from Teemu Pukki meaning they left Carrow Road empty-handed.
“The perfect answer would have been a result,” he said. “Really, when you take the emotion out of it, in the cold light of day, Sammy got sent off and there’s 30 seconds to go, the ball goes into the box and we didn’t react quickly enough to the second ball.
“That’s what hurts more than anything. I should be stood here applauding the lads for the way they played against the top of the league.”
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31 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:21 am
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
There are a number of fringe players who haven't featured recently who we wouldn't miss if they weren't paid and decided to void their own contracts, but given that we are a team that's struggling it wouldn't make any sense for them to do that unless they were guaranteed a game and comparable wages at a lower league club which would seem umlikely.
With the team in trouble, surely they won't get a better chance to hit form and force themselves back into the reckoning?
With the team in trouble, surely they won't get a better chance to hit form and force themselves back into the reckoning?
32 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:12 am
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Surely the Players Union should only be paying the wages of players in crisis, i.e. those at risk of their homes being repossessed or not having money to put food on the table. Not millionaire players with mansions and flash cars.
Yes, the club owes these players money, but let's not pretend this is a humanitarian crisis.
Yes, the club owes these players money, but let's not pretend this is a humanitarian crisis.
33 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:42 pm
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Players Union aren’t short of cash judging by what Gordon Taylor takes home.
34 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:47 pm
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat. It's Christmas. How would you feel if your monthly wage of over 25k didn't come in.
You'd have to fall back on your million pounds of savings.
Not really nice to say to the kids that Santa isn't going to arrive is it.
You'd have to fall back on your million pounds of savings.
Not really nice to say to the kids that Santa isn't going to arrive is it.
35 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:36 am
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Ken Anderson: No truth in fire sale reports at Bolton Wanderers
Championship clubs are eyeing potential bargains next month as Bolton’s much-publicised cashflow problems continue.
Players went a 10th successive day unpaid yesterday despite a deal being struck between Anderson and PFA chief Gordon Taylor to subsidise half of the overdue November salary.
Should the drama extend beyond the end of the week players could automatically become free agents – although that scenario looks highly unlikely now that the paperwork has been signed on the PFA loan.
Anderson painted a rosier picture yesterday as he dismissed wage problems to claim Wanderers would be looking to strengthen in the winter window.
“To make it absolutely clear all our players are under contract with the exception of Stephen Ireland and Gary O‘Neill, whose contracts end early January and we will discuss the position with both of them over the next few weeks,” he said. “There has been some media speculation about a fire sale in January, but l can assure you that there is absolutely no truth or financial need for this and we will review what we do in the window nearer the time when the management team and l will discuss what has and hasn’t worked so far and what we all think is needed to strengthen and improve the squad for the run in to give us the best opportunity of retaining our Championship status.”
Meanwhile, Leeds United will bring 4,500 supporters to the University of Bolton Stadium on Saturday as Marcelo Bielsa’s side look to return to the top of the Championship.
Encouraged by his side’s performance in defeat at Norwich City, Phil Parkinson hopes his players will be able to bounce back quickly.
“It’s a confidence booster in one way because we’ve come to a team that everyone is talking about, riding high at the top of the league, played well and deserved something out of the game," he said.
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Ken Anderson has bit back at suggestion players he could be forced to sell players to balance the books in January.
Championship clubs are eyeing potential bargains next month as Bolton’s much-publicised cashflow problems continue.
Players went a 10th successive day unpaid yesterday despite a deal being struck between Anderson and PFA chief Gordon Taylor to subsidise half of the overdue November salary.
Should the drama extend beyond the end of the week players could automatically become free agents – although that scenario looks highly unlikely now that the paperwork has been signed on the PFA loan.
Anderson painted a rosier picture yesterday as he dismissed wage problems to claim Wanderers would be looking to strengthen in the winter window.
“To make it absolutely clear all our players are under contract with the exception of Stephen Ireland and Gary O‘Neill, whose contracts end early January and we will discuss the position with both of them over the next few weeks,” he said. “There has been some media speculation about a fire sale in January, but l can assure you that there is absolutely no truth or financial need for this and we will review what we do in the window nearer the time when the management team and l will discuss what has and hasn’t worked so far and what we all think is needed to strengthen and improve the squad for the run in to give us the best opportunity of retaining our Championship status.”
Meanwhile, Leeds United will bring 4,500 supporters to the University of Bolton Stadium on Saturday as Marcelo Bielsa’s side look to return to the top of the Championship.
Encouraged by his side’s performance in defeat at Norwich City, Phil Parkinson hopes his players will be able to bounce back quickly.
“It’s a confidence booster in one way because we’ve come to a team that everyone is talking about, riding high at the top of the league, played well and deserved something out of the game," he said.
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36 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:46 pm
Ten Bobsworth
Frank Worthington
You have to feel sorry for poor old Gordon coming under pressure from his own members whilst trying to make ends meet on a salary of £2.29million p.a.T.R.O.Y wrote:Players Union aren’t short of cash judging by what Gordon Taylor takes home.
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37 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:16 pm
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
You should be supporting our former heroesTen Bobsworth wrote:You have to feel sorry for poor old Gordon coming under pressure from his own members whilst trying to make ends meet on a salary of £2.29million p.a.T.R.O.Y wrote:Players Union aren’t short of cash judging by what Gordon Taylor takes home.
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38 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:48 pm
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
It's good that ken has set the record straight. He's not been known to talk shite as far as I'm concerned.
39 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:10 pm
Ten Bobsworth
Frank Worthington
I was empathising with him just like I empathised with Deano for not getting the £100K he wanted (allegedly) out of Xpro Management Services Ltd.wanderlust wrote:You should be supporting our former heroesTen Bobsworth wrote:You have to feel sorry for poor old Gordon coming under pressure from his own members whilst trying to make ends meet on a salary of £2.29million p.a.T.R.O.Y wrote:Players Union aren’t short of cash judging by what Gordon Taylor takes home.
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So pleased that Deano seemed to make up his loss from somewhere else.
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40 Re: Unpaid Bolton players eyeing exit in January transfer window as club's financial turmoil continues Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:22 am
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
So what's this about a hitch in the plans for the PFA bailout?
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