To Tip, Or Not To Tip?

There was a time when you could decide who and when to tip all by yourself. If the service you received was good you could leave a tip, if it was crap you didn't. Simple.

However, in the last 12 months I've noticed a lot of restaurants are including the tip as a service charge on their bills, anywhere between 10-15%.

At the weekend I ate in a posh hotel in York. Nice meal, nice surroundings but very average service considering it wasn't busy. The bill for two of us came to £92 which I instantly thought was a lot - when I looked closely I noticed a 12.5% service charge at the bottom of the bill. I sent the bill back and asked them to remove it. But let's be honest, this is England and most people would pay it and moan about it when they got home.

How do you feel about service charges and tipping in general? Surely including the tip in the price of your meal creates lazy table staff with no motivation to give good service.

Not as bad as the States...

When I first went during the early 1990's they expected 10% tip, it is now 20% tip as the norm now!!!

i rarely tip, why should a taxi driver get a tip for doing his job?

As you can imagine I don't get to many English places where tipping really goes on. The poshest I've eaten in the last year is a bowl of chips from the Blundell Arms on Chorley Old Road.

I/we usually leave a bit of something when I/we eat out abroad but I don't see why people should. Are labour costs not included in the price of the meal/drinks?

I wish liquidation on any place with the audacity to include a tipping charge on the bills.

I always tip on holiday, but rarely do it over here for some reason.

In my experience you get much better customer service abraod than you do in this country which is probably the main reason behind me rarely tipping people over here.

As long as you avoid fly tipping you should be okay.

I hate tipping on principle but I still tip. The French passed a law a few years ago to force restaurants to include the service charge on the bill so that there is no need to tip. If people do a job they should be paid for it, tipping is just wrong.

I normally tip 10% in cash in a restaurant if the service is good and I will leave nothing if the service is bad.

It's funny how it's only certain occupations where tipping is deemed appropriate. Someone did a sketch on TV recently where they went into a Post Office, bought a stamp and said "have one yerself, mate."

Then there are those who maybe deserve a tip but miss out completely. Who's ever tipped a lollypop lady, for example?

I didn't think i'd be the first to post this....

Unless you were in Reservoir Dogs how is that relevant?

I'm not sure, how is a discussion about tipping relavent to a thread about tipping habits.

I'll get back to you...

Hipster_Nebula wrote:I'm not sure, how is a discussion about tipping relavent to a thread about tipping habits.

I'll get back to you...

The question was how do YOU feel about tipping, not some film made years ago.

I was in that film. I'm the guy with the wobbly spoon.

I allway's tip waitresses they get paid shit money work long hours. I know some, and their managers try to stiff them for the hours they have worked to cut costs.I know this for a fact, managers of greedy companies like Harvesters and the like. I know a few waitresses in london one is an FWB She works 12 hr shifts and tight arsed fat rocky horror eating bastards waddle out after getting good service without leaving a penny. She get's a party of 10, runs around like mad for them the bill comes to say 150 quid and not a fucking penny from the cunts. I wish they had to book with an address or phone number Because i'd give them a fucking tip. I once was at her place waiting for her to come home late and when she did that had happened and she was so down she was crying so i gave her one instead a big one too. So some shits out there owe me some money,i'd love to collect. These girls sometimes work 12hrs and only get 20 mins break, So leave them a tip you tight arsed twats.

Well said AD.

Angry Dad wrote:I allway's tip waitresses they get paid shit money work long hours. I know some, and their managers try to stiff them for the hours they have worked to cut costs.I know this for a fact, managers of greedy companies like Harvesters and the like. I know a few waitresses in london one is an FWB She works 12 hr shifts and tight arsed fat rocky horror eating bastards waddle out after getting good service without leaving a penny. She get's a party of 10, runs around like mad for them the bill comes to say 150 quid and not a fucking penny from the cunts. I wish they had to book with an address or phone number Because i'd give them a fucking tip. I once was at her place waiting for her to come home late and when she did that had happened and she was so down she was crying so i gave her one instead a big one too. So some shits out there owe me some money,i'd love to collect. These girls sometimes work 12hrs and only get 20 mins break, So leave them a tip you tight arsed twats.

Utter bollocks. So she should get a tip just because she's on crap money? Most people who can afford £150 for a meal will tip, perhaps your friend is just a pisspoor waitress?

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Angry Dad wrote:I allway's tip waitresses they get paid shit money work long hours. I know some, and their managers try to stiff them for the hours they have worked to cut costs.I know this for a fact, managers of greedy companies like Harvesters and the like. I know a few waitresses in london one is an FWB She works 12 hr shifts and tight arsed fat rocky horror eating bastards waddle out after getting good service without leaving a penny. She get's a party of 10, runs around like mad for them the bill comes to say 150 quid and not a fucking penny from the cunts. I wish they had to book with an address or phone number Because i'd give them a fucking tip. I once was at her place waiting for her to come home late and when she did that had happened and she was so down she was crying so i gave her one instead a big one too. So some shits out there owe me some money,i'd love to collect. These girls sometimes work 12hrs and only get 20 mins break, So leave them a tip you tight arsed twats.

Utter bollocks. So she should get a tip just because she's on crap money? Most people who can afford £150 for a meal will tip, perhaps your friend is just a pisspoor waitress?

Fuck off whittam you prick,you are a waste of space.

If i was you whittam i'd check my meal for any unwanted extra's on returning to a restaurant with your attitude. I bet you have eaten some stuff and deserved it.

Angry Dad wrote:If i was you whittam i'd check my meal for any unwanted extra's on returning to a restaurant with your attitude. I bet you have eaten some stuff and deserved it.

So now you're saying I should tip just to avoid having restaurant staff put stuff in my food? I thought better of you AD, for all your bravado you're a bit of a soft bugger.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Angry Dad wrote:If i was you whittam i'd check my meal for any unwanted extra's on returning to a restaurant with your attitude. I bet you have eaten some stuff and deserved it.

So now you're saying I should tip just to avoid having restaurant staff put stuff in my food? I thought better of you AD, for all your bravado you're a bit of a soft bugger.

You amuse me, keep it up babe.